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BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10137215)
Exactly, and that was the excuse for entire Marty era, as they were always drafting too late to get a QB. In the last few years, this team has picked 3rd, 5th twice, 11th and 1st overall and didn't take a QB.

On the other hand, the team is on their 4th 49ers QB among the very long list of others during that time frame.

Anyone that believes that is coincidence needs to come talk to me about this bridge I have for sale.

It is what it is, and we need to just enjoy it for what it is.

But hey. If that once in a three decade prospect like Luck is there the fans will be patient LMAO

tredadda 10-29-2013 08:16 AM

I can't even believe this is a subject of debate. The window of opportunity for a good number of these players is closing within the next couple of years (Flowers, DJ, Charles, Bowe, Hali etc) and with the way the NFL is set up it is very hard to win in this league. This team is set up to win now.

I would much rather be 8-0 with an almost certainty of making the playoffs where anything can happen than possibly sitting at home again saying "wait till next year". Between the two Smiths, Alex gives us the best shot to win now while our window is still open. We have a QB that we can take our time in developing, Bray. I don't want to blow this opportunity to win it all now so we can develop a franchise QB that we will have to rebuild around. When Bray is ready we can rebuild around him.

It is sad that this fan base is so obsessed with a first round QB that they would sacrifice this season for one. Especially when there is no guarantee that he will develop into a franchise QB.

BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10137239)
I can't even believe this is a subject of debate. The window of opportunity for a good number of these players is closing within the next couple of years (Flowers, DJ, Charles, Bowe, Hali etc) and with the way the NFL is set up it is very hard to win in this league. This team is set up to win now.

I would much rather be 8-0 with an almost certainty of making the playoffs where anything can happen than possibly sitting at home again saying "wait till next year". Between the two Smiths, Alex gives us the best shot to win now while our window is still open. We have a QB that we can take our time in developing, Bray. I don't want to blow this opportunity to win it all now so we can develop a franchise QB that we will have to rebuild around. When Bray is ready we can rebuild around him.

It is sad that this fan base is so obsessed with a first round QB that they would sacrifice this season for one. Especially when there is no guarantee that he will develop into a franchise QB.

Put this guy down for "Too Risky".

tredadda 10-29-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10137240)
Put this guy down for "Too Risky".

:doh!: Sad that you would rather root for a team sitting at home for the playoffs than one that is in it. Geno in spite of your belief is anything but the savior, but hey just ruin the careers of our star players by drafting a QB in the first that NO other team thought was #1 much less first round material. AS is by no means a HOF QB but he puts us in a better position to win it all now while our window is open. But you can't see that because you continue to act like a jilted lover because the Chiefs passed on your guy.

BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10137244)
:doh!: Sad that you would rather root for a team sitting at home for the playoffs than one that is in it. Geno in spite of your belief is anything but the savior, but hey just ruin the careers of our star players by drafting a QB in the first that NO other team thought was #1 much less first round material. AS is by no means a HOF QB but he puts us in a better position to win it all now while our window is open. But you can't see that because you continue to act like a jilted lover because the Chiefs passed on your guy.

Wrong. I already stated I'd rather go through a year with Bray learning on the job and going all in next year to win the whole damn thing. Keep building those strawmen though.

HemiEd 10-29-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10137240)
Put this guy down for "Too Risky".

Well we just need to give the 1st overall right tackle time to grow into the job.


ROFL, I just looked up Alex Smith's rookie record, the 1st overall pick.

FACTS

2-5 84 for 165 50.9 % 1 td, and 11 interceptions

Geno

4-4 150 for 253 59.3 % 8 tds, 13 interceptions

tredadda 10-29-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10137246)
Wrong. I already stated I'd rather go through a year with Bray learning on the job and going all in next year to win the whole damn thing. Keep building those strawmen though.

So you would throw away a season in which we have the talent to not just make the playoffs, but possibly make noise in it all for the opportunity to develop a QB who may or may not ever pan out?

BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10137249)
Well we just need to give the 1st overall right tackle time to grow into the job.


ROFL, I just looked up Alex Smith's rookie record, the 1st overall pick.

FACTS

2-5 84 for 165 50.9 % 1 td, and 11 interceptions

Geno

4-4 150 for 253 59.3 % 8 tds, 13 interceptions


3-13
Peyton 326 for 575 56.7% 26 Td's 28 INT's

They really ****ed up letting him learn on the job. Just think maybe they had a shot to win it all in 98 by trading for Ty Detmer.

l4z4rd 10-29-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10137249)
Well we just need to give the 1st overall right tackle time to grow into the job.


ROFL, I just looked up Alex Smith's rookie record, the 1st overall pick.

FACTS

2-5 84 for 165 50.9 % 1 td, and 11 interceptions

Geno

4-4 150 for 253 59.3 % 8 tds, 13 interceptions

Geno's got 3 pro bowlers on the offensive line and much better offensive weapons than Smith had as a rookie.

Hammock Parties 10-29-2013 08:47 AM

I just don't see the point of Alex Smith. I mean, homer hopes spring eternal and all that shit, but if you really dig deep down you know he's not taking us to a SB in the 4-odd years he's gonna be here, if that. It's just not happening.

Might as well have rolled the dice on choco.

But, nope. We're just gonna piss away the balance of the careers of our best players on a guy who makes 2010 Matt Cassel look like a prolific passer. **** me.

BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10137252)
So you would throw away a season in which we have the talent to not just make the playoffs, but possibly make noise in it all for the opportunity to develop a QB who may or may not ever pan out?

Yep. This team maybe wins 1 playoff game, MAYBE and it's topped out at that point with Alice. I'd do exactly what the Steelers did with Big Ben.

BigCatDaddy 10-29-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10137264)
I just don't see the point of Alex Smith. I mean, homer hopes spring eternal and all that shit, but if you really dig deep down you know he's not taking us to a SB in the 4-odd years he's gonna be here, if that. It's just not happening.

Might as well have rolled the dice on choco.

But, nope. We're just gonna piss away the balance of the careers of our best players on a guy who makes 2010 Matt Cassel look like a prolific passer. **** me.

But we win regular season games and shit!

I'm not surprised really though. People actually were beaten down so bad they wanted Marty back in KC. This is exactly what they wanted.

philfree 10-29-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10137258)
3-13
Peyton 326 for 575 56.7% 26 Td's 28 INT's

They really ****ed up letting him learn on the job. Just think maybe they had a shot to win it all in 98 by trading for Ty Detmer.

Oh so now Geno is Peyton Manning? :doh!:

l4z4rd 10-29-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10137278)
Oh so now Geno is Peyton Manning? :doh!:

He'll be Peyton after 15 more INTs

splatbass 10-29-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10137092)
I realize you probably aren't up yet when the Jets play, due to all of them wild celebrity parties you are hosting, but have you even watched him? Yes, he is still a rookie half way through his first season, but he clearly has more talent than the Alex Smith.

Did you watch the game Sunday? He was BAD. He was BENCHED.


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