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tk13 03-14-2013 08:13 PM

The other interesting thing is Reid and Dorsey don't have a track record of ***** ego-mania. They come from organizations and have track records of not being afraid to address the QB position aggressively.

They could be wrong here though. But I said this during the combine... I think their interviews with Geno and Barkley went horribly... because they came right out and finalized the trade for Alex Smith right afterwards. People laugh at that, but I wonder if they just had a panic attack and thought they better make sure they get someone they are marginally comfortable with.

And I would've traded for Alex Smith, and probably drafted Geno Smith. Screw them... neither guy has really done enough yet to dictate terms to a GM. They need to throw as many options as they can at the position. I'll admit watching Geno and Barkley in those Mariucci interviews was really disappointing though. Both guys are knocked for their inability to process information, and they had a difficult time with softball Steve Mariucci. Geno's accuracy when he's comfortable in the pocket is tremendous though. He just needs to find a place where they will utilize him properly.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9499768)
The other interesting thing is Reid and Dorsey don't have a track record of ***** ego-mania. They come from organizations and have track records of not being afraid to address the QB position aggressively.

They could be wrong here though. But I said this during the combine... I think their interviews with Geno and Barkley went horribly... because they came right out and finalized the trade for Alex Smith right afterwards. People laugh at that, but I wonder if they just had a panic attack and thought they better make sure they get someone they are marginally comfortable with.

And I would've traded for Alex Smith, and probably drafted Geno Smith. Screw them... neither guy has really done enough yet to dictate terms to a GM. They need to throw as many options as they can at the position. I'll admit watching Geno and Barkley in those Mariucci interviews was really disappointing though. Both guys are knocked for their inability to process information, and they had a difficult time with softball Steve Mariucci. Geno's accuracy when he's comfortable in the pocket is tremendous though. He just needs to find a place where they will utilize him properly.

This amazes me, because you're way smarter than this.

Why trade for a guy who is about to be cut?

Had they signed Smith as a FA and drafted a guy for competition/development, I don't think anyone here would be upset.

But to commit to the guy for the foreseeable future based on the compensation you give to get him?

Spinning wheels.

tk13 03-14-2013 08:24 PM

Well the first pick in the 2nd round was way too high. That was terrible. But I would've considered a 3rd or 4th. That's still probably too high, but everyone talks about how important the position is and how this team should be more aggressive in acquiring one... that's what they think they were doing. I guess.

Smith is a #1 overall pick. He has talent. And we have a coach with a solid history of getting the most out of his talent at QB.

But at this point screw all these rules. We don't have to be tied to Smith for years on end, at least until we give him a stupid contract. But I like the idea of throwing as much as we can at the position. If you find the right guy it won't be a problem. No one's laughing at Shanahan for drafting 2 QBs last year.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2013 08:43 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...r-bowl-in-2012

Bleacher report, but still interesting.

8th ranked QB for PFF in 2011. 6 4th Quarter Comebacks/Game Winning Drives for the season. There is the first bit of optimism I've had on that subject thus far.

BossChief 03-14-2013 08:44 PM

If Alex Smith can pick up where he left off in SF, I'll be fine with the trade. Lets break some numbers down and extrapolate some stats for the homers to preach...

Alex Smith completed 70% of his passes and had a 8.1ypa. He also threw a touchdown pass every 16.8 throws and an interception every 43.6 passes.

Andy Reids quarterbacks threw the ball 616 times.

(I know this is just totally irrelevant due to changing circumstances and all, but it's fun to think about when you want to ignore the reality of the situation.)

Here's what the numbers break down to...

432/616
4928 yards
37td passes
14 interceptions

Fire up those BBQs, Chiefs fans. We going to big games with a QB like that.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9499911)
If Alex Smith can pick up where he left off in SF, I'll be fine with the trade. Lets break some numbers down and extrapolate some stats for the homers to preach...

Alex Smith completed 70% of his passes and had a 8.1ypa. He also threw a touchdown pass every 16.8 throws and an interception every 43.6 passes.

Andy Reids quarterbacks threw the ball 616 times.

(I know this is just totally irrelevant due to changing circumstances and all, but it's fun to think about when you want to ignore the reality of the situation.)

Here's what the numbers break down to...

432/616
4928 yards
37td passes
14 interceptions

Fire up those BBQs, Chiefs fans. We going to big games with a QB like that.

LMAO

BossChief 03-14-2013 08:50 PM

And seriously, if THAT is what Andy Reid thinks he can get out of Alex Smith I hope he is right.

I bet that's EXACTLY what his hopes are from the compensation given up in the trade.

RunKC 03-14-2013 08:53 PM

Some people just need to call it quits. Writing how much you hate this team everyday must make you an extremely grumpy person in real life.

If you hate this team and Alex Smith is Matt Cassel, than surely you know how this story ends, right?

So why waste your time if you're pissed off about it that much?

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9499942)
And seriously, if THAT is what Andy Reid thinks he can get out of Alex Smith I hope he is right.

I bet that's EXACTLY what his hopes are from the compensation given up in the trade.

If Reid thinks he can get Alex Smith to throw for nearly 2,000 more yards and 20 more TD's than he's ever thrown in a season, he needs to be checked into the nuthouse.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9499911)
If Alex Smith can pick up where he left off in SF, I'll be fine with the trade. Lets break some numbers down and extrapolate some stats for the homers to preach...

Alex Smith completed 70% of his passes and had a 8.1ypa. He also threw a touchdown pass every 16.8 throws and an interception every 43.6 passes.

Andy Reids quarterbacks threw the ball 616 times.

(I know this is just totally irrelevant due to changing circumstances and all, but it's fun to think about when you want to ignore the reality of the situation.)

Here's what the numbers break down to...

432/616
4928 yards
37td passes
14 interceptions

Fire up those BBQs, Chiefs fans. We going to big games with a QB like that.

Drew Brees 2.0 ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9499960)
Some people just need to call it quits. Writing how much you hate this team everyday must make you an extremely grumpy person in real life.

If you hate this team and Alex Smith is Matt Cassel, than surely you know how this story ends, right?

So why waste your time if you're pissed off about it that much?

I've bitched as much as anyone about it, but he has had some pretty ****ing clutch drives over the last several years. That is huge.

BossChief 03-14-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9499960)
Some people just need to call it quits. Writing how much you hate this team everyday must make you an extremely grumpy person in real life.

If you hate this team and Alex Smith is Matt Cassel, than surely you know how this story ends, right?

So why waste your time if you're pissed off about it that much?

You want blind faith, find it elsewhere.

This place is for critical thinkers. STFD and STFU while the big boys are talking.

Pablo 03-14-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9499966)
If Reid thinks he can get Alex Smith to throw for nearly 2,000 more yards and 20 more TD's than he's ever thrown in a season, he needs to be checked into the nuthouse.

No shit.

There's optimism and there's realizing potential. That's just delusional talk.

Alex Smith will never throw for more than 3,500 yards and/or 25 TD's as a Chief. That's his absolute ceiling. Mark it down. Sig me up. Whatever. That's the best we can hope for. And that probably won't cut it in a pass-happy league.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-14-2013 08:58 PM

He was on pace for 26 TD's last year and I believe that many yards in a conservative offense. Andy is going to throw the ball. Hey, I'm trying. Not sure how he was in the 4th in '12, but had some aces in 2011.

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9499911)
If Alex Smith can pick up where he left off in SF, I'll be fine with the trade. Lets break some numbers down and extrapolate some stats for the homers to preach...

Alex Smith completed 70% of his passes and had a 8.1ypa. He also threw a touchdown pass every 16.8 throws and an interception every 43.6 passes.

Andy Reids quarterbacks threw the ball 616 times.

(I know this is just totally irrelevant due to changing circumstances and all, but it's fun to think about when you want to ignore the reality of the situation.)

Here's what the numbers break down to...

432/616
4928 yards
37td passes
14 interceptions

Fire up those BBQs, Chiefs fans. We going to big games with a QB like that.

Thats nice in theory but when Alex Smith has been asked to throw like Reid wants, he fails.


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