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TribalElder 03-05-2013 05:25 PM

Dorsey just cheesed out on the radio when Kevin K asked about drafting a QB.

Never say never

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9468117)
So the Redskins invested two #1s, a #2, and a #4 in two rookie quarterbacks. What imbeciles THEY are!

Or maybe they understand the value of the quarterback position a little better than you do.

I never stated they were imbeciles. However, if you are using the Redskins as your template, I can only think of three or four franchises who have done worse than they have in off season acquisitions as compared to expected results since Daniel Snyder has purchased the team.

I am not saying having two good QBs is a bad thing. I am saying the Chiefs are not going to use their #1 to get another QB after just acquiring their starter. They will want an immediate impact player for the number one pick of the draft - it will be expected.

Is it the right thing? I don't know. I know it is speculation to assume that Geno is a starter and an immediate impact player - too much speculation for the Chiefs front office. It simply won't happen.

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9468116)
Maybe I'm not understanding the question, but ......look at the results

Rodgers got to chillax and learn a couple seasons behind a legend...who is to say he didn't learn a TON from favre......

Does your question just assume the results would be the same? Or is there any acknowledgement that playing behind favre a couple seasons couldve helped rodgers a lot?

Rodgers was a 24th pick. An amazing thing considering many picked him as a #1 prior to the combine. And I agree with you, I don't think he would be this smart without the two years of the bench.

But the average fan doesn't want the overall #1 to sit on a bench for 2 years, it doesn't make sense to them. Thus it won't make sense to the front office.

Fish 03-05-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9468106)
That would be as stupid as having Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick on the same team.

Or Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson.

Or RG3 and Kirk Cousins.

What a stupid plan that would be. Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll and Mike Shanahan are all idiots.

Exactly. The QB position has become so important in today's game, that it's impossible to have too much talent at that position. Look at the teams you named, and how those teams can approach their respective drafts knowing their QB position is more than set.

Fish 03-05-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9468115)
Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, Jaws Jaworski, Jim Hart, and Steve Grogan all disagree with you.

Meanwhile Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, and Brad Johnson agree with you.

It's a completely different game than when those guys were playing.

KCWolfman 03-05-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9468172)
It's a completely different game than when those guys were playing.

It's always "Different". Yet it still remains the same at the end of the season.

For example: Every 7 or 8 years we are told how important the "new" mobile quarterback is to the game. And after two or three seasons of major injuries and pocket passers winning the big game, it goes back to the same routine. Staubach is the only true mobile QB to win a Superbowl (although an argument could be made for Steve Young).

I am curious though, A question for you and those that do support bringing in Geno Smith, do you then believe Joe Flacco deserves his contract? After all, he is the epitome of "Throwing every resource" at the QB position, isn't he?

SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9467853)
completely different argument

I am not discussing/debating what the team SHOULD do with the QB position.


I'm talking about what they ARE doing. I just don't see how/why they would give up draft picks for Alex Smith and then turn around and give up the 1st pick of the draft for Geno Smith.

If they didn't give up that much for Alex Smith then all bets are off and we'll see.

Just to clarify, since you keep saying it in other posts, our pick we supposedly gave up is in the second round. Not the first. It's the second second round pick that doesn't make it a first.

Ok that's out of the way.

Now last year the redskins gave up their first, a second, two later firsts and a fourth for two quarterbacks.

They went to the playoffs playing in the same division as Andy Reid. He played that shitty teamtwice a year for quite see time and then saw first hand what spending those picks did for them.



Why is it so far fetched to think he would spend a first and two seconds for two guys?
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9468047)
You are dumb as ****.

Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers meant the Packers didn't have a a good one?

Thank you
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:50 PM

Hell Brett farve and Matt hasselbeck, neither could be good by that thinking.


Farve and brunell, farve and Aaron Brooks.


now guess where our GM worked when all those combos of two starting caliber qb's where put together...
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9468205)
It's always "Different". Yet it still remains the same at the end of the season.

For example: Every 7 or 8 years we are told how important the "new" mobile quarterback is to the game. And after two or three seasons of major injuries and pocket passers winning the big game, it goes back to the same routine. Staubach is the only true mobile QB to win a Superbowl (although an argument could be made for Steve Young).

I am curious though, A question for you and those that do support bringing in Geno Smith, do you then believe Joe Flacco deserves his contract? After all, he is the epitome of "Throwing every resource" at the QB position, isn't he?

is the argument over young that he didn't win one or that he wasn't mobile?


Either one makes as much sense as the other
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:52 PM

Oh and **** yeah flacco deserves his contract
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Mr. Laz 03-05-2013 05:52 PM

keep the dream alive


more power to ya

SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9468078)
Again, if Alex Smith were 7 years older and closer to retirement, you would have an argument. As it stands, this comparison is just not comparable at all.

What year did farve go there?

They drafted hasselbeck in 94 iirc.

Brunell in 98

Brooks in 99

All iirc, could be a year off on one or two but I think it shot your argument all to shit anyway
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9468140)
Rodgers was a 24th pick. An amazing thing considering many picked him as a #1 prior to the combine. And I agree with you, I don't think he would be this smart without the two years of the bench.

But the average fan doesn't want the overall #1 to sit on a bench for 2 years, it doesn't make sense to them. Thus it won't make sense to the front office.

Dude, are you ok?


Did you fall down anytime recently?


bump your head?



Surely you don't think that if it doesn't make sense to fans it won't make sense to the front office.


Please tell me you are kidding
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SAUTO 03-05-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9468129)
I never stated they were imbeciles. However, if you are using the Redskins as your template, I can only think of three or four franchises who have done worse than they have in off season acquisitions as compared to expected results since Daniel Snyder has purchased the team.

I am not saying having two good QBs is a bad thing. I am saying the Chiefs are not going to use their #1 to get another QB after just acquiring their starter. They will want an immediate impact player for the number one pick of the draft - it will be expected.

Is it the right thing? I don't know. I know it is speculation to assume that Geno is a starter and an immediate impact player - too much speculation for the Chiefs front office. It simply won't happen.

Name the immediate impact player in this draft
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