Louisville would gladly jump into the Big XII or the ACC in a heartbeat. There's no way the ACC would consider them, though.

I agree that the Big XII would be in great shape there, but I don't see how that undercuts the importance of football.

Every one of those schools that you listed (other than VA Tech) has an inferior football program that their in-state counterpart in the SEC.

Losing 2 great basketball schools to a football conference would underscore the fact that football is what makes a conference powerful. Otherwise, the Big East would rule.

What are they the 5th best conference in?

There are good teams in things and bad teams in things. Conferences don't compete against each other. They are a means for scheduling.

That was in reference to your statement/belief that they would threaten UNC-Duke by taking VA Tech and NC St if they didn't join. That's not a football move.

I agree that the ACC schools in SEC country are inferior, but they offer certain advantages as well. GTech is in Atlanta, FSU certainly has its own history, Clemson, I would argue is just as good, if not better, than SC. You don't have to claim superiority in that area, you just have to claim some of the market share. There are fans in those states who will watch both their SEC and Big XII teams.

If they match up, sure, most will root SEC, but in the TV market game, you're just looking to steal a share. As the sun travels west, hard core fans will be watching just as much Big XII as they will SEC.

NC State & VaTech > UNC & Duke

ROFL

Man, it still hasn't hit me that there's going to be a lot of different matchups/conference games come this fall.

Not sure how long it'll take me to get accustomed to all the new changes.

Conferences absolutely compete against each other. They compete for television contracts and sponsors and even members.

There are 3 mega-conferences.

After that, there's the ACC, the Big XII, and the Big East (in that order).

You can debate whether or not the 4 superconference structure is coming, but things are inching that direction. The SEC, B1G, and PAC have all expanded by poaching teams from the XII. The ACC is expanding by poaching teams from the Big East. The XII has hedged some of it's losses from the Big East. These are facts.

The Big East is on life support. Their days as a power conference are numbered.

The SEC, PAC, and B1G are more powerful than ever and all have room to expand if the right opportunity presents itself.

The ACC has expanded.

The Big XII has shrunk.

At the moment, the Big XII is the 5th most powerful conference. This also makes them the second most vulnerable major conference.

No way. Adding UNC and Duke would turn the SEC into it's own little fiefdom. It could potentially be terrible for college sports as a whole.

The teams that left the Big 12 left because they wanted to leave. Top heavy conferences have this problem.

The conference is firmly entrenched with championship level athletics and an unrivaled TV contract when it comes to per school payout.

The Big 12 does what it wants. There are numerous teams banging on the door to try and get a piece of what the Big 12 has. But why would you split with more teams when your TV contract is already maxed out?

The logistics of corporate bowl tie ins are so complex that you will never have a playoff system in college football like they do at the FCS level. What schools need to do is start showing some pride in their history and stop hanging their brethren out to dry ala what Syracuse and WVU have done.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

His hate for MU comes from being a KU fan but he quickly left ship after Turners first year and the loss to VCU.

You used the term "poached".

They weren't poached. They contacted other conferences to try and join.

Conferences contacting member institutions would be illegal from what I understand.

UNC and Duke are in a conference that poached two of the elite schools in the Big East. Their conference is stable. They won't leave their golden position to go to the SEC where football is king (which both are relatively weak in). They could easily schedule UK without having to go to the basketball weak SEC to do that.

Rumors abound that the Big XII wants to get back to 12 teams this summer.

Sounds like Louisville and either BYU or Rutgers are the targets. Also hearing that they are trying to get FSU, Clemson, or both.

Why would Clemson or FSU leave the ACC?

They wouldn't unless maybe the Duke\UNC rumors have legs, I guess.

What are the Duke UNC rumors?

Nevermind just read it.

ACC won't get near the deal the Big 12 is about to get.

I can't imagine them leaving over the difference in deals. Now, if there are other things going on, the money would sweeten the pot.

Kind of weird that next year, Colorado, Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri will be in 4 different conferences.

Clemson and FSU belong in the SEC, IMO. Too good of football schools to have to end up way out west in the B12(?)

Will never happen.

That would make 4 teams with Tiger mascots. Wouldn't that be a bit on the silly side?

There's also unrest from the football schools that the ACC is too basketball centric when football is dominating the market. Would rather see some combination of these for 14-16:

Louisville
Pitt
V Tech
NC St
Clemson
FSU
G Tech

Don't want BYU and really think Rutgers is pushing the bounds without more schools in that area.

Vintage Spurrier:

LMAO

http://sportstalkgolive.com/index.ph...spn-interview/

Awesome. SEC.

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Total class by Trent. I wish nothing but the best for him and his mother, as well as Courtney, as they battle cancer. I am a sucker for stories like this as it is great to see the best part fo humans take center stage.

That was really cool.

Wasn't real sure where to put this. At first I was worried Truman the Tiger was at it again.

Mizzou put out a press release today saying there is now a waiting list for football season tickets.

In addition they unveiled their new football uniforms:

http://www.mutigers.com/genrel/12-uniform-gallery.html

New uniforms are really nice. I nice facelift without going the crazy Oregon route.

lol,

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptu...s/AM_Shirt.png

They are, however, new to geography it would appear. Oh well, SEC!
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...says the guy whose team is one of 10 members in the Big XII.

No Missouri, include North Carolina..... hilarious

You would think TX would have at least made the cut.
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Me or Wicked? I'm a Mizzou guy, the RG3 avy was put up on the one day I had hopes of the chiefs getting him. Probably need to change that.
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Texas is on the back. At least that's the word on the street.

Awesome Aggies (sorry if rp).

http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/201...w-sec-t-shirt/
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They're new to football too. Just look at their bowl record.

They've won more bowls than Kansas has played in.

And Kansas has a better win percentage.

And isn't out making T shirts. lol

So by this reasoning...

A team that has played in one bowl game and won it (even, say, a little crappy one) has a better bowl history than one that has played in 60 and has a less-than-perfect record?

Texas A&M has a national title, 18 conference titles, a Heisman winner, and has played in 33 bowl games winning 14 of them.

Kansas is 6-6 in bowl games (and 2-9 against aTm). Congratulations, Wickedson, on once again finding an obscure metric within which KU has an advantage against an otherwise vastly superior program.

What about Fruit Bowls played in the BCS era? That seems to be his criteria.

WTF are you talking about? I never brought up Kansas.

You did. Again....

Yep. Louisiana Lafayette had a better season than LSU because they outdueled SDSU in the R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl. Hell, Kansas did as well since they didn't hurt their bowl winning percentage.

KU has more BCS wins than A&M?

Shit man, I didn't even realize that.

I said Kansas isn't making T Shirts. Kansas knows football isn't it's strong point.

It's really not a big deal. Kansas has what it has.

Gotta love the new conference just got the best kid in the state coming to the basketball team for the first time in about 10 years and a 5* star visited. This never would have happened with Sadler who could win just enough games in the old shitty conference.

It is cool moving on to greener pastures and watching the recruits roll in.

It really is. It's also kinda funny how easy it is to be successful in basketball I mean just hire an assistant with AAU ties who can bring talent in and your team should make the tournament.

baby steps

Yep. They'll be hiring parents in no time.

I highly recommend this article/video:

Video: Charlie Weis thinks Kansas needs to work on its celebrations

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...135041036.html

That's not even funny. It's just cringe-inducing...like watching a stand-up comedian bomb.

ten bucks they do that shit everytime they score a field goal...

http://www.mancavesports.org/wp-cont...u-football.jpg

He's preparing them for the type of crowds Kansas is expecting. Good strategy.

The good news is Coach Weis has decided to remain faithful to his wife and remain true to his wedding vows.

I guess having affairs is more of an SEC thing.

LMAO Wow.

What? Petrino is old news now?

Weis is more attracted to the buffet than his wife. Same for her.

He'll be here all week folks. Always the best comedy here at the Auschwitz Improv.

LMAO.

ROFL

When I think Charlie Weis, I think loyalty. That guy would never leave anyone in the lurch.

Question is.. does Weis own a hog?

No, but he can consume one in one sitting.

Rascals aren't really a panty dropper.

Charlie Weis is fat.

Charlie Weis is also a pompous ass with questionable character.

But mainly fat.

That doesn't concern me.

What does concern you about Wies? His blood pressure?

Well actually I am glad he is not the head coach of the team I support... so he doesn't "concern" me.

Most wouldn't. For KU fans Weis is Bear Bryant compared to Gill.

Only place I can think of that Charlie left without talking to his superiors or being let go is Kansas City, and that's really tragic, because I'm sure Todd Haley was such a great manager of people.

And he's Calista Flockhart compared to Mark Mangino, fwiw.

So Weis couldn't have stuck it out for the playoffs?

Either way, Weis has walked out on as many teams as he's had success with.

Patriots: Success
Notre Dame: Fail
Kansas City: Fail
Florida: Fail