It's just so hard to trade an arm like Miller. Esp when you see what starting pitchers are going for on the FA market. As the Cards know, signing several the past few years to extensions or to come there and pitch. Ain't cheap.

Damn right.

Which is why Wainwright in all likely hood will be back due to Carp's contract being up. And I understand why Westbrook was brought back, but that still doesn't mean he isn't possible to move, I just would have rather seen Miller/Rosenthal get a better chance at a rotation spot.

I'm not a Cards fan (in fact I hate them) but I always liked Westbrook. I think he's a really solid guy in a MLB rotation. If you followed the Royals more closely you'd appreciate Westbrook much more. That said I'm sure Miller will get the 5th spot or assume it after the first injury.

Westbrook is what he is-a decent pitcher. He looks really good sometimes and looks like pure shit at other times. I would think giving the young kids a shot would be better in the long term, however, it could also just be used as a tactic to delay the arbitration clock(which I doubt is the case).

You could suspect that with many clubs, but the Cards normally don't play any of those type of games. They don't have to. If Miller was rotation-worthy he'd be in there without hesitation.

As I said, I doubt that it's the case, but you never know. Hopefully Taveras is up sooner rather than later.

WTF? Do you follow the development of the cardinals minor league system? So now he is not even worth being in the rotation?

Miller has projected as a #1 starter since he was drafted. He got humbled earlier in the year and he was lights out at the end. He was almost perfect in the playoffs.

No, can't say that I do.


Anyway, the Cards should take a flier on Luke Hochevar. Guy has great stuff and has several great starts every year. Really durable too. Cards are masters of reclamation projects, and I bet they'd turn him into a very good pitcher esp given that you could ease his anxieties a bit having him avoid the DH. He's susceptible to the big inning and that is reduced in the NL. I bet he'd win 10-12 games for them, easy.

We can debate this forever, but why on Earth would they trade a top prospect for more prospects? It's not like they have to rebuild, they're trying to win another World Series. If there's a move to be made for a big leaguer that would help with that, who knows if they'd trade Miller, but what you're suggesting is completely laughable.

Why is Wicked crapping in our thread?

It's what he does. The only thing he does.

We have a glut of young pitchers waiting their chance to start. But, anyways, Duncan was the magic behind the reclamation of washed up pitchers. He's retired now.

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Unfortunately the the Reds just got stronger by acquiring Shin-Soo Choo this evening.

Nice trade to get Choo pretty much for nothing, though it will be interesting to see how he performs in CF.