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the Talking Can 05-01-2013 12:42 PM

there is no context in which a CB has the same value as a FB...i'd rather have a 6th round pick than a player who nullifies our actual 6th round pick

can we hire someone to do trades for the franchise?

warrior 05-01-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9648655)
Arenas maybe expendable but you dont give him away for a ****ING FB. Especially when you already bringing 4 FBs into camp and just wasted a 6th round pick on one in the draft lol





:shake:This is what I don't get would much rather have an abundance of DB's

BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9648961)
there is no context in which a CB has the same value as a FB...i'd rather have a 6th round pick than a player who nullifies our actual 6th round pick

can we hire someone to do trades for the franchise?

That's funny, because I had the same thought. While Reid has a track record as a coach and Dorsey as an evaluator they are getting taken to the cleaners in trades.

patteeu 05-01-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9648650)
I like arenas, but now we have flowers, Sean smith, Dunta, Daniels, Commings, and menzie. Some may compete at safety. Arenas is fairly expendable. Don't know who returns kicks but am confident toub weighed in on this.

Yeah, I don't get the reaction. Trading Arenas for someone who has a chance to at least contribute on ST is better than just cutting the guy.

RINGLEADER 05-01-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9648780)
Always good to get something for nothing, even if it's a FB. And by 'nothing' I mean a trade instead of just releasing him.

This.

I like Arenas, but outside of his first punt return he hasn't contributed a whole lot. When he was put into the starting line-up after Routt was let go he played okay, but wasn't anything that will be missed.

BigCatDaddy 05-01-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9648970)
This.

I like Arenas, but outside of his first punt return he hasn't contributed a whole lot. When he was put into the starting line-up after Routt was let go he played okay, but wasn't anything that will be missed.

So we have 4 guys better?

Just Passin' By 05-01-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by warrior (Post 9648962)
:shake:This is what I don't get would much rather have an abundance of DB's

Maybe Reid's decided to break out the 5 fullback package on offense.

Rain Man 05-01-2013 12:49 PM

What the - ? I thought we just signed a backup fullback. We traded our nickel back and punt returner for a backup fullback? What?

Who's running this clown show? I liked Arenas. Why do we keep giving away perfectly fine cornerbacks?!?!?!

The Franchise 05-01-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9648929)
I can't wait till Kendrick Lewis gets cut and this place EXPLODES!

This place won't explode. Kendrick Lewis ****ing sucks.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-01-2013 12:50 PM

Another Pioli Blunder Ends With Trade
May 1, 2013 - Bob Gretz | No Comments

In the days before the 2009 NFL Draft the Chiefs called a press conference to announce that the greatest receiving tight end in NFL history Tony Gonzalez had been traded to the Atlanta Falcons.

The deal that then new GM Scott Pioli put together was Gonzalez for a second-round draft choice . . . in 2010. The Chiefs did not even get an immediate payoff in the NFL Draft for giving up one of the best receivers in football.

The next year that second-round choice became cornerback-returner Javier Arenas from Alabama.

On Wednesday, the Chiefs put an end to that deal after four mediocre seasons from Arenas by trading him to the Arizona Cardinals.

In exchange, the Chiefs received fullback Anthony Sherman.

That Arenas won’t be going into the season with the Chiefs does not come as a surprise. When the club added Dunta Robinson and Sean Smith in free agency, and then Stanford Commings in the fifth-round of the 2013 Draft, Arenas’ hold on a roster spot became tenuous.

So he walks out of Kansas City with the following numbers:

47 games, 12 starts.
149 tackles with 4 sacks.
2 interceptions, 2 forced fumbles, 1 recovered fumble.
105 punt returns for a 9.8-yard average, no touchdowns.
50 kickoff returns for a 19.8-yard average, no touchdowns.
4 rushes on offense for 17 yards and a 5-yard TD run vs. Oakland in 2010.

In those same four seasons (2009-12), Gonzalez played in Atlanta with these numbers:

64 games, 63 starts.
326 catches for 328 yards, an average of 10.2 yards per catch, with a long catch of 34 yards.
27 touchdown catches.

the Talking Can 05-01-2013 12:50 PM

he has more value to us as camp insurance against injuries to our CBs than a 3rd string FB....

RINGLEADER 05-01-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9648961)
there is no context in which a CB has the same value as a FB...i'd rather have a 6th round pick than a player who nullifies our actual 6th round pick

can we hire someone to do trades for the franchise?

There are other variables like Arenas contract being up after this year, unless I'm mistaken.

Again, Arenas is a good guy but only a competent CB who likely wouldn't have seen the field much on Reid's team.

patteeu 05-01-2013 12:52 PM

The most interesting part of this trade of bottom of the roster players is that it's a trade of players. That doesn't seem to happen very much.

I have nothing against Arenas, but if Reid/Dorsey see something in this fullback that they really want, I'd rather give up a guy who hopefully wouldn't even make the team with some of the DB additions we've already made than give up draft picks.

RINGLEADER 05-01-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9648973)
So we have 4 guys better?

Evidently the coaches think so...

DBOSHO 05-01-2013 12:52 PM

Hay guyz he had that one wildcat touchdown cut him some slack


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