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unlurking 11-14-2013 10:59 AM

Dark yes, but the acting is so wooden it just seems cheesy. The assistant is the only one with any humor, and while I like the attempts and the jokes, they just don't seem to be delivered very well. I liked season 1, but season 2 has been a bit of a letdown for me. It just seems to take itself too seriously. There is no way in hell I would equate the execution of Arrow's darker theme to the execution by Nolan.

No ****ing way. The content matter definitely is, but the execution just seems amateurish.

SHIELD on the other hand, doesn't take itself so seriously, which means neither do I. It has a bit of a muted Chuck flair, and I loved that show. To be honest, the acting in this show hasn't been the greatest either (Ward sucks), but there are enough other characters that we're not so focused on a main character that doesn't seem to have any emotion beyond brooding.

I guess you could say I like SHIELD better because my expectations are being met. It's a lighthearted comic book style, which really isn't that hard to pull off. Arrow is disappointing to me, because my expectations are higher. A darker, more epic theme just needs better execution to pull off or it seems forced. The SHIELD lends itself towards a serialized cartoony style story, whereas Arrow seems to be trying too hard for a an epic story telling.

keg in kc 11-14-2013 11:21 AM

I've liked Arrow season 2 as much or more than season 1. Amell is wooden on purpose.

Ward is getting better on SHIELD. I think part of the plan has been to humanize him slowly. All the focus has been on turning Skye into a team player, but it's been the same thing for him. I thought the last ep was big for that.

unlurking 11-14-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10186561)
I've liked Arrow season 2 as much or more than season 1. Amell is wooden on purpose.

Ward is getting better on SHIELD. I think part of the plan has been to humanize him slowly. All the focus has been on turning Skye into a team player, but it's been the same thing for him. I thought the last ep was big for that.

Ward has gotten better, and it does seem like the last few episodes have mostly been about building character relationships.

As far as Ollie goes, he may be wooden on purpose, which might fit the character they are trying to have him portray. A vigilante Spock just doesn't hold my interest though. Also, when they cut to flashbacks, he still seems very wooden and forced. In these scenes, he should have been more "normal". Then again, maybe I just can't get past how horrible his wig looks!

Beef Supreme 11-14-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10186455)
Yeah, I signed up for a free month of streaming. I watched episode one of season three last night and it was by far the best in the series to date, IMO.

I can understand completely why Breaking Bad was on the verge of cancellation its first two seasons. It was a very difficult watch compared to a program like Justified, which had me hooked from the first episode and has continued to improve through the life of the series.

Breaking Bad's first two seasons were very dark, slow dramas. Unlike Mad Men, I don't like or relate to any of the characters. With Mad Men, I'm just old enough to remember visiting my Dad's office in the late 60's and early 70's to recognize the decorum and overall workplace environment, along with the remembrances of historical events.

With BB, I got nothing, other than the promise that it's an amazing program.

Oh, and I must add that Netflix streaming service, in my experience, is poor. The picture quality is poor, streaming frequently bottle necks and even changing the settings in my account haven't helped. Compared to Amazon Prime's streaming, which has been nothing short of excellent, I give Netflix a D overall.

I'm in about week 3 of my free month on Netflix, and the streaming has been top notch. No issues whatsoever. Go figure.

keg in kc 11-14-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10186592)
Ward has gotten better, and it does seem like the last few episodes have mostly been about building character relationships.

As far as Ollie goes, he may be wooden on purpose, which might fit the character they are trying to have him portray. A vigilante Spock just doesn't hold my interest though. Also, when they cut to flashbacks, he still seems very wooden and forced. In these scenes, he should have been more "normal". Then again, maybe I just can't get past how horrible his wig looks!

Yeah, that wig is brutal.

Buehler445 11-14-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10186455)
Yeah, I signed up for a free month of streaming. I watched episode one of season three last night and it was by far the best in the series to date, IMO.

I can understand completely why Breaking Bad was on the verge of cancellation its first two seasons. It was a very difficult watch compared to a program like Justified, which had me hooked from the first episode and has continued to improve through the life of the series.

Breaking Bad's first two seasons were very dark, slow dramas. Unlike Mad Men, I don't like or relate to any of the characters. With Mad Men, I'm just old enough to remember visiting my Dad's office in the late 60's and early 70's to recognize the decorum and overall workplace environment, along with the remembrances of historical events.

With BB, I got nothing, other than the promise that it's an amazing program.

Oh, and I must add that Netflix streaming service, in my experience, is poor. The picture quality is poor, streaming frequently bottle necks and even changing the settings in my account haven't helped. Compared to Amazon Prime's streaming, which has been nothing short of excellent, I give Netflix a D overall.

Good info. Thanks.

I've got Prime under CPs advice for baby stuff, and have begun watching several series', but I understand that Netflix has more options for series. I have a buddy that I watch a lot of shit with and we've been trying to split the cost of seasons and movies and watch them together as our bro-hang out time. Anyway, we've been considering him getting netflix and me keeping prime and getting each others logons and splitting the cost.

He had it a couple years ago and it worked pretty well through my TV, but if the stream quality isn't good, then it may not be a good deal.

DaneMcCloud 11-14-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10186621)
Good info. Thanks.

I've got Prime under CPs advice for baby stuff, and have begun watching several series', but I understand that Netflix has more options for series. I have a buddy that I watch a lot of shit with and we've been trying to split the cost of seasons and movies and watch them together as our bro-hang out time. Anyway, we've been considering him getting netflix and me keeping prime and getting each others logons and splitting the cost.

He had it a couple years ago and it worked pretty well through my TV, but if the stream quality isn't good, then it may not be a good deal.

I have a fast internet connection, like 21 Mbps, so I shouldn't have any issues. Maybe it's population density but I really didn't like Netflix's message of "try later!" if streaming is poor. I'm usually not watching until 10pm PST, so any later is next to impossible.

Hopefully, you won't have the same issue.

unlurking 11-14-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10186684)
I have a fast internet connection, like 21 Mbps, so I shouldn't have any issues. Maybe it's population density but I really didn't like Netflix's message of "try later!" if streaming is poor. I'm usually not watching until 10pm PST, so any later is next to impossible.

Hopefully, you won't have the same issue.

I don't know who your provider is, but there has been a lot of discussion about ISPs intentionally downgrading Netflix traffic. I do wish they had more HD content, but I've been pretty happy with the service.

DaneMcCloud 11-14-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 10186734)
I don't know who your provider is, but there has been a lot of discussion about ISPs intentionally downgrading Netflix traffic. I do wish they had more HD content, but I've been pretty happy with the service.

Time Warner Cable.

Again, no issues with any other streaming, including Amazon Prime.

unlurking 11-14-2013 12:31 PM

I know that TWC and Netflix are supposedly negotiating over letting Netflix drop servers directly on the TWC backbone. Probably be a while though.

DaneMcCloud 11-14-2013 03:01 PM

Well hopefully, it's just an issue on my end with TWC internet.

I doubt I keep it beyond the free month.

unlurking 11-14-2013 03:25 PM

Yeah, I'm on a free month of Aereo, and doubt I'll keep it for the same reasons.

ragedogg69 11-14-2013 04:15 PM

Sky is just the worst. She has already tried to **** SHIELD over before, then throws a fit when she doesnt have clearance. Just lame. They should have made simmons go splat after jumping out the plane. Then, Ward could have been upset that he didnt save her and add some sort of depth to his character.

Fitz had some nice moments last episode. The pilot has completely been underused after a nice build up. And coulson is just not making sense now.

007 11-14-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10186455)
Yeah, I signed up for a free month of streaming. I watched episode one of season three last night and it was by far the best in the series to date, IMO.

I can understand completely why Breaking Bad was on the verge of cancellation its first two seasons. It was a very difficult watch compared to a program like Justified, which had me hooked from the first episode and has continued to improve through the life of the series.

Breaking Bad's first two seasons were very dark, slow dramas. Unlike Mad Men, I don't like or relate to any of the characters. With Mad Men, I'm just old enough to remember visiting my Dad's office in the late 60's and early 70's to recognize the decorum and overall workplace environment, along with the remembrances of historical events.

With BB, I got nothing, other than the promise that it's an amazing program.

Oh, and I must add that Netflix streaming service, in my experience, is poor. The picture quality is poor, streaming frequently bottle necks and even changing the settings in my account haven't helped. Compared to Amazon Prime's streaming, which has been nothing short of excellent, I give Netflix a D overall.

Thats odd. We have never had a problem with it at all.

Deberg_1990 11-14-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10186455)
Yeah, I signed up for a free month of streaming. I watched episode one of season three last night and it was by far the best in the series to date, IMO.

I can understand completely why Breaking Bad was on the verge of cancellation its first two seasons. It was a very difficult watch compared to a program like Justified, which had me hooked from the first episode and has continued to improve through the life of the series.

Breaking Bad's first two seasons were very dark, slow dramas. Unlike Mad Men, I don't like or relate to any of the characters. With Mad Men, I'm just old enough to remember visiting my Dad's office in the late 60's and early 70's to recognize the decorum and overall workplace environment, along with the remembrances of historical events.

With BB, I got nothing, other than the promise that it's an amazing program.

Oh, and I must add that Netflix streaming service, in my experience, is poor. The picture quality is poor, streaming frequently bottle necks and even changing the settings in my account haven't helped. Compared to Amazon Prime's streaming, which has been nothing short of excellent, I give Netflix a D overall.

I really liked Season 2. I thought it was pretty strong. But yea, it truly picked up momentum in season 3. Great show.


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