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All Disney has to do is not have a hugely convoluted plot line. Since the Prequels are ****ed beyond repair, I have a..."New Hope" that somebody can make a simple, satisfying, action packed film that can make everyone happy for the most part. After the abortion of the prequels, I HAVE to watch these things...and hopefully they won't suck ass...

GOD DAMMIT MARK

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LMAO

Exhibit A on the health risks of being an incredibly successful voice actor, apparently.

Looks like he's going to have to smash a few less burgers.

Sweet Jesus...

The rule of two that you brought up is interesting, hopefully they leave it out.

Still want tons of sith to battle the growing jedi academy. Hell multiple factions and have a 3way battle. GOoT proved audiences can follow. I just want kyle katarn in as an advisory role. If disney wants to build the franchise they can show that other jedi hid well and trained apprentices while vader was ****ing things up.

This way it gives more of a reason to have multiple sith lords to battle on multiple fronts.

I wouldn't get your hopes up, at least for VII-IX. Those will be bloodless, simple Star Wars movies in the tradition of the original series.

We might see some of that down the line in spin-offs and new sagas but I think it's highly unlikely to be any time soon.

It's Disney.

This....the main character will be a female force sensitive teenage ewok.(It's one of Luke's love children when they were captured on endor)

LMAO

Oh God...if you thought the "cuddly character"-factor was high under Lucas...

I don't think so. I think it will be along the lines of a Pirates. Bloodless, probably. Female lead? Likely. But I don't think it will suck, and they're not shy about spending money on good CGI, and good directors.

I thought the first pirates was good. I thought the second pirates was pure shit. I thought the third pirates was only slightly better than pure shit. I couldn't justify spending money on the fourth. It depends on which pirates they model it after.

Guys, it's not going to follow the Jerry Bruckheimer "model". It's Kathleen Kennedy and LucasFilm, with Lucas taking an advisory role.

She's been a producing partner of Lucas and Speilberg for decades, not a Bruckheimer associate.

****...so no hot teenage ewoks then????

:sulk:

2 and 3 were "meh." 4 was a LOT more like 1. Try it out.

Thats because they got away from the CGI and did more set work with 4.

I didn't like 2 or 3 as much as 1, but I thought there was something wrong with 4...it's hard to put my finger on it, perhaps it was because this movie was really all about Captain Jack, no Kiera Knightly or Orlando Bloom to balance it out. I don't think it sucked, but it was different. Even Captain Jack was somehow different, and not in a good way.

I didn't hate it, but my wife and I just watched it again last weekend and both have the same feeling...something is just wrong with it.

Get to the Old Republic or F off.

Um, it's a sequel, dumbass. Not a prequel.

lolololol

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I heard the villain is going to be Darth Diabetes...

Wow the years have not been kind to Mark.

Ehhh. He looked fine on a recent TV appearance. Just needs to drop 50 or so.

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Buncha Intellectual Property thievn'.

Put a hooded robe on him and he could be the new Emperor no makeup required!

Saw Robert Wuhl playing a judge on Franklin and Bash last week.

Ooofah.

I sat next to him in the Dodgers Dugout seats in 2011 so I can only imagine what he looks like now.

He looked fat, pale, droopy and about 100 years old. Still the same?

:facepalm:

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Cross 90's Wuhl with Teddy Kennedy, ruddy and full faced.

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that improved the quality of my life

Reboot with time portal and create alternate timeline. : )

lol

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Turrible. Like, someone discussing NFLE while owning a lagging NFL team turrible.

Darth Maul looks like a reindeer

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I just read this morning that Darth Maul was brought back to life, with a robotic lower half, in Star Wars: The Clone Wars cartoon series.

At the end of The Phantom Menace, I just knew that he wasn't dead and expected him to come back at that time. I'm sure glad that Lucas didn't do that in the movies, because it would have been a cheap move, although it might have been cool to see Maul and Vader fight to become the true apprentice to Sidious.

Either way, if Maul is alive in the Clone War series, it opens the door for him to be alive in the next animated series or even the live action series, when it finally happens.

They should have never killed Maul. He was one of the most ***ass underdeveloped villans of all time. Instead of introducing the other undeveloped and un-intimidating Old Dooku, Maul could have been the main antagonist all the way until Ep. III

Yeah, he was. They actually did a pretty good job with it.

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Did he survive?

When you someone eat it.

LMAO

I think so. It's been a few months though.

Cool. No matter what anyone thinks of the prequels, that entire Maul/Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon fight ranks right up there with the best moment in any of the movies.

I realize that I'm in the minority when it comes to the adult Star Wars crowd, but I really, really enjoyed The Phantom Menace, infinitely more than Return of the Jedi.

Liam Neeson's character was exactly how I had long imagined Jedi Knights of the Republic to look, behave and act. He was note perfect, IMO. Darth Maul was a very cool and menacing Sith and I enjoyed watching Palpatine/Sidious' machinations.

The look of the movie is very warm (it was shot on film, then transferred) and the score, IMO, is amongst the best ever by John Williams. How he seamless transitions the end title into Darth Vader's Theme is absolutely brilliant.

The lowlights were of course Samuel L. Jackson and too much Jar Jar Binks. Other than that, I don't have much negative to say.

It's certainly better than Attack of the Clones.

The kid and Jar Jar ruin the movie though.

Having no protagonist didn't help either.

Vader killed Maul:

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Yeah wasn't that like a clone or something?

I need to read that comic.

Nope. According to "EU Canon", it was the real deal. The storyline goes that resurrected Maul knows Vader's true identity, feels that a former Jedi has no place being the apprentice, and sets out to kill him.

**** I hope Darth Maul is back. Had the best light saber fight evah

His was the only good one that wasn't CGI'd to death.

Yeah, it's too bad the actor that portrayed Yoda was unavailable for Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

I think it was a contractual issue.

The man has actual martial arts training and talent. It is what it is.

I wasn't aware that Yoda was portrayed by a man, but hey, I guess we all learn something new everyday.

I thought Frank Oz was the voice talent also

I was speaking about Ray Park, you ****ing moron.

Huh?

Frank Oz has voiced or puppeteered Yoda in every Star Wars film.

I think they ditched the puppet entirely after TPM though.

Your reading comprehension is worse that I could have possibly imagined.

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Uh, what?

Can you please explain how Yoda can have a lightsaber duel without VFX?

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Can somebody tell me what ****ing planet McCloud is on tonight?

You didn't know that?

Frank Oz is cool as ****.

What does Frank Oz have a goddamned thing to do with real actors dueling? OF COURSE they were going to ****ing CGI Yoda. THE POINT IS/WAS: I appreciate the fights that are done with actors more than a doctored-up, CGI splooge-fest.

Jesus...

While the lightsaber battle between Darth Tyranus and Anakin Skywalker wasn't exactly in a forest, it was hardly a VFX fest. Obi Wan and Anakin's battle, while in front of a volcano was hardly a VFX fest.

Both scenes featured actors that had spent months choreographing their moves and scene.

And to the point I made earlier, Yoda is a CGI character, so it only stands to reason that his battle scenes with Tyranus and Sidious would be VFX.

And for the record, the scene with Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4 is as hilariously bad in 2013 as it was in 1977.

The OT duels look archaic post-prequels, no doubt. The Vader/Obi-Wan mustafar is probably the height of two actors well-trained and pushing it. That said, the Maul duel in Theed still has more intensity, especially when he and Obi-Wan go one on one. IMO.

The Phantom Menace duels, IMO, are by far, the best of saga, bar none.

Lucas, IMO, listened too much to the public, too much to internet chatter and so forth. If he had just stuck to his vision from TPM on, the prequel would garner more respect amongst older fans than it does today.

I'm gonna have to agree with Dane. I've always liked Phantom Menace, except a bit too much Jar Jar. AoTC is kinda blah....RoTS was decent as well.

Lucas screwed the pooch with casting choices of Anakin. Both actors were bad.
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The enchantment related to the the Phantom Menace duel can be compared to staring at a steaming pile of shit for an hour and a half and then suddenly seeing a fly land on it.
The fly was exciting for a moment so you forgot you were still staring at a pile of shit for the past hour and a half.

AOTC is just terrible. It's easily the worst of the prequels. From the shitty acting of HC, to Obi-Wan's mullett, to the awkward scenes between HC and Portman...just terrible.

If I were Chargers fan, I'd up hate the world, too.

The whole movie is rushed. There's no emotion behind the lines, especially those of Anakin and Padme. Their relationship is completely unconvincing.

The scenes with Obi Wan and Jango on Kamino are cool, as are the light saber battles at the end of the film. The rest is complete garbage. The scenes and look of Geonosis is laughable. I've seen better stop-motion from Ray Harryhausen that's more realistic looking than those created by ILM for the arena scenes in AOTC.

The arena scenes are awful, but TPM as a whole is just a horrendous movie. Stilted pace, boring dialogue, terrible acting and direction, annoying child lead, the list goes on and on.

The only redeeming parts of that entire trilogy are a few lightsaber battles. There isn't quarter of a good movie between the three of them if you take all the best parts and combine them.

If you're talking about the pod races, that was nothing but pure surround sound porn. Nobody cared what was going on, just that things were whizzing and whirring all around them, or so Lucasfilms hoped.

If they cut out the pod-races, midichlorians, Watto, the entirety of the gungans, featured a different child actor, developed Darth Maul's character (how awesome would it have been to have had a Darth Vader like villain presiding over the entire prequel trilogy?) and perhaps developed Qui-Gon and the role of the Jedi council a little more, TPM could have been a terrific movie.

The movie did have a few things working for it, the casting (outside of Jake Lloyd, seriously, how could Lucas absolutely botch the two most important castings of the prequel trilogy?), the construction of Palpatine's character, and the lightsaber duel at the end, of course.

I think the central problem of the trilogy is that the excesses of Lucas' ideas were on full display throughout their entirety. Lucas has always had ideas that were on the loopy side, for example, Luke and his aunt and uncle were originally intended to be dwarfs, Han was supposed to be green creature who didn't have a nose, and 3PO was supposed to be a dirty "used car salesman" (remind you of anyone from the prequel trilogy?)

It's pretty telling that the Empire Strikes Back, now widely credited with being the best film in the series, had the least influence from Lucas out of any Star Wars film (Though, to be fair, it originally had a "ride off in the sunset" type of ending.)

You could argue that Lucas' over-control was first seen in Return of the Jedi, as the director and Harrison Ford wanted Han killed in the first 20 minutes (to demonstrate to the audience that nobody was safe), and the Ewoks were supposed to be rather ugly, lizard like creatures who were misunderstood by the rest of the galaxy, Lucas nixed both of those plot points.

The Prequel Trilogy was doomed from the moment Lucas decided to surround himself with a group of "yes men" who in no way would trim the excesses from his product.

I also have neglected Lucas' shortcomings as a writer, Harrison Ford swayed Lucas to change many of his lines in the first two movies, and I also believe that Hayden Christianson's acting was horrifically stunted due to the Lucas' writing (Shattered Glass proves that Christianson does possess rather impressive range as an actor). When Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman are delivering wooden lines, it's evident the problem strays beyond the actors.

TL;DR: Lucas has always been a bit loopy, The Prequel Trilogy just put this reality on full display.

The political climate of the 2000's didn't help Lucas' story matter much either.

When you start the ball rolling with a trade dispute as the basis of your "major conflict" in the SW galaxy.....

yeah.

It's worth noting that I primarily relied on these two sources for information.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...rever-20130524

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/trivia

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