Huh, that's how any BJJ fighter goes down... Silva grabbed his leg and Vitor still had enough in him to move it. The next two punches took him completely out.

Lots of dancing around, followed by a front kick to the face... BOOM knock out.

That's all I ask from Silva. If you've got the talent to finish a fight, just do it. No more clowning around... it's disrespectful to the sport, and the opponent.

In ****ing sane.

Ball is in your court GSP.

LOL, watch his hands.

I'm not sure the exact term but you have to be intelligently defending yourself. He was so ****ing rocked that he tried to brush Silva off with his foot and didn't even defend his face with his hands.

Also I wonder if Steven Segal taught Silva that move.

And Fedor is fighting next weekend. Good week.

Question. Is there a site to watch Dana White's post fight press conference?

GSP would really work Silva over. Again, a great wrestler is Silva's downfall. And no one is better at that than GSP. GSP's chin would be my only concern.

I'm looking forward to that Strikefoce tournament a lot more than I was looking forward to this. Goddamn, that's going to be some amazing shit.

You know that fight is coming. It'd set all kinds of PPV records.

To win the fight, Shogun is going to have to get the fight to the ground...do you really think he can do that. Jones stuffed any kind of takedown attempt Bader threw at him with ease, it's going to be very difficult for Shogun to get him down. Not to mention, Jones looks like he's a weight class larger than Shogun.

Also...Jones has momentum and already is in fighting shape now. He and Greg Jackson can spend the next 6 weeks coming up with a gameplan and train specifically for it instead of worrying about getting into fighting shape. That is a HUGE advantage IMO.

I'm not saying Jones is going to walk through Shogun or anything like that but this is a horrible match up for Shogun stylistically, there's no denying that.

It doesn't destroy anything...the only point I made was that if Griffin can sub Shogun and I don't give a **** when it was that Jones can do it too. That's it.

:spock:

You really think Shogun is KO'ing Jones?

Ok...I don't think so. Jones is too smart to get Machida'd.

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Time to get GSP and Silva together and quit throwing retreads in with these guys.

Agreed.

Sorry about quoting myself.

I think this is key... fans wouldn't have turned on Silva as much as they have, if he'd just done what he did tonight. Whatever you think of him... the dude's an amazing talent. He seems super human at times. It's crazy. Dropped Griffin with a punch that looked like one I'd throw at my son while playing around.

I think peeps are just sick of him. 2006 to now is a long time to rain champ
I dnt think Saint P can beat him either.

I don't always agree with the shit Anderson does but I'll NEVER get tired of watching him fight...don't see how anyone can.

The dude is flat out nuts.

People got pissed because he's so good he got bored... and started toying with his opponents.

GSP has the best take downs in the game. He should have no trouble duplicating what Sonnen did. It's really 50/50 IMO just depending on if GSP gets caught coming in with some crazy strike.

Pretty much...he was trying to embarass Maia too, even though it was completely stupid.

There is no one at MW outside of Sonnen that can beat him IMO...be interesting to see if he might go up to 205.

I think he thought... longer fights = better fights...

So he'd wait and wait... jacking around, when he could finish at any time.

Good fights come from even match ups. Unfortunately, nobody else is on his level.

Wow Dana White just said that if GSP wins in Toronto, the Superfight between he and Anderson will happen.

:thumb:

He mentioned it could happen in Dallas...I'd be interested to see what the attendance and buyrate for that PPV would be.

Who does he have up there, Shields?

Yup.

I would drive to Dallas to see that fight

Shields looked like shit after his last fight, but I think he is a more natural 185lber. Regardless, the winner should face Silva and either has a good chance of pulling it off.

No doubt. I like GSP anyways.

You're giving Jones far too much credit. He's still a pup. He should eventually become a long standing champ, but again, he's never fought anyone like Shogun. Not anyone of that caliber.

I think it's even money at this point. Jones has that "freakish" skill set factor, but Rua also has all of the tools, experience, and at 29 just hitting his prime. I'm not sure this will be action packed fight, but I'm still excited to see it.

Hmmm, wonder if that fight would sell out that stadium

What's that place hold 100K?

Somebody a little more in the know then me would have to answer this one, but I would think the US wouldn't be able to pack that many in for a UFC fight, but maybe Japan would?

Edit just did some research on the 20 biggest gates ever. 18 in Japan and 2 in Canada. No way they sale out that stadium in my opinion and from the sound of things the UFC is more interested in the PPV sales so probably wouldn't care to even try.

http://www.tapology.com/search/mma-e...tal-attendance

As long as its not in ****ing Montreal. I like GSP but damn he gets the home field advantage too much.

The rowdy crowds make it more fun to watch. Fights are always better to watch when there is a home town boy involved. It might not be a fair but I just want to be enertained.

No way could the us sell out jerruhworld.

Japan could.
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Then put it in Brazil.

That would be cool as well, just like Rocky IV.

where can i see this face kick

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XgUh-2vXAb...tA/s1600/2.gif

Learned from Segal

http://samuraiprojects.com/silva-vs-seagal.gif

So Belfort made more then Silva for that fight?

Anderson Silva, $200,000 (no win bonus) def. Vitor Belfort, $275,000
Forrest Griffin, $125,000 + $150,000 (win) = $275,000 def. Rich Franklin, $75,000
Jon Jones, $70,000 + $70,000 (win) = $140,000 def. Ryan Bader, $20,000
Jake Ellenberger, $16,000 + $16,000 (win) = $32,000 def. Carlos Eduardo Rocha, $8,000
Miguel Torres, $28,000 + $28,000 (win) = $56,000 def. Antonio Banuelos, $9,000

Just shows you how 'peanuts' MMA really is when you compare it to the big boxing payouts.

It goes to show you how much money the UFC probably stuffs in their pockets.

This, they are making an insane ****ing killing. Fighters are getting hosed.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/6/...thousand-words

That article is pretty much how I see it.

Nah man. Shogun is stand up first, ground later. His stand up is top notch. I see him chopping down Jones with those brutal leg kicks then going in for the kill.

Right. Jerm doesn't watch MMA that much because if he did, he'd know better. Shogun is a brutal stand up guy. If anything, Jones only chance is to get it to the ground and sub Shogun. Because I don't see him knocking Shogun out.

Yeah, he's Muay Thai first, BJJ second.

You guys forget that Shogun has the best Ground game in the ENTIRE division. If you watched him fight over in PRIDE or VTB he loves being on the ground, his sweeps are brutal, he can be mounted and in a second he is on top. He will not get subbed. He will submit Jones if he wants to get into a grappling match.

I just finished watching the UFC card. That Kick by Silva was bad ass. And good luck to Jones I don't know if he is ready but I sure like his style.

Bingo.

This is the thing. When a guy like Jones wins his first big fight, everyone is on his crotch.

I think that Jones will be a great fighter one day. But Shogun should walk through him.

Could I be wrong? Sure.

I doubt I am tho.

Rashad vs Silva

What do you think?

ehh...the GSP/Silva fight will happen before that would.

Rashad would have a shot, but that might be the most boring fight in UFC Main Event history.

Silva would kill that dude.

Rashad's has great speed and great take downs. I can see him laying and praying out a five round decision similar to Sonnen.

Silva looks much, much larger than GSP to me. I really like GSP but I don't know if he could handle a fighter as big as Silva.

I too am a big GSP fan but a fight against Silva may not be a wise decision. If GSP took a kick like the one Vitor took he'd still be sleeping.
I suppose if he schools Shields he may not have much choice. Just don't think he can get through 2 rounds with Silva.

You know, Shogun fought Overeem twice and beat him twice, by a KO and TKO. Overeem is a pretty big guy, in the mold of a Jones. Jones has a 84 inch reach and Overeem has like 82 inch reach. That being said, Shogun has fought a guy in a mold like Jones.

As others have said, no way does Jones outstrike Shogun. he will get annihilated if he tries.

Question for all of you picking Shogun? Is there another fighter besides Shogun at 205 that you would pick to beat Jones right now?

I appreciate everyone's opinion but I hardly compare Jones to Overrate. That horse eating roid pumping douche has lost to most of the top guys he's fought. He may be able to plow through Brett Rogers or Andrei Orlavsky but that's not much of a measuring stick.

That's pretty darn subjective, but he's obviously a guy that can't be out wrestled. He has good submission skills and his striking is on the rise. He would have the toughest time with a good striker that has great takedown defense. This may not be a popular opinion but if he fought Machida he'd probably get a decision loss.

Remember the skinny Overeem in Pride? Dude has some mean chokes in him.

I'll never take away from his skill, but he's lost to Shogun twice, Nog twice, Chuck, and Werdum. He beat Vitor twice but who else?

Nah, man, you're right.

I was going to say Machida would probably give him fits because of his good striking and elusiveness.

Outside of that, I think Jones would do well against Rashad and Rampage.

Its the legit strikers who I think will give Jones trouble right now.

Be interesting to see how he does this weekend in the Strikeforce Heavyweight tourney. That will be the measuring stick.

He's kind of a different/better fighter now tho don't you think?

Guess we'll find out.....

You mean more chemically enhanced fighter? I'm sure you saw Fedor's comments.

Rashad won't fight Jones. See the above link.

jones and rashard are friends and problly wont fight. jones is for real though. hes coming for that belt hard. will be a GREAT fight of two amazing fighters. silva is still the best fighter in the world!!!

Aldo is the best fighter in the world Silva got dominated for nearly 5 rounds by Sonnen. That shouldn't happen regardless of his Test level.

We will find out soon enough, I'm looking very forward to it. And yes he has evolved his skill with the game but enough to be Fedor?

Man I don't care about that shit and I don't know why anyone else would either.

Give me all the roided up fighters in the world. Anyone that thinks that the majority of fighters aren't on is living in a fantasy world.

Who cares?

Probably some do to an extent especially HGH for healing purposes, but Overeem has went through a Bonds-like transformation physically. I don't think the anabolics are probably used as much as androgens because guys don't want to lose the flexiblity but want the agression. You live in that world so you probably know more about what those guys are taking anyways. I just know from bodybuilding exp. what these substances typically do.

I'm assuming most just due straight Test Cyp cycles of about 400-500MG's with some Arimidex while training, but like I said I have no idea.

Again, doesn't bother me at all. I don't know why it would anyone else either.

I always find it odd that people care about that. Most of these same people are all for legalizing weed, but get pissed off all to hell if a guy uses anabolics. Who gives a shit????

Who's getting pissed off? You are talking to a guy on TRT for life and owns fitness center. Testosterone can be a wonderful thing.

I'm just stating he is a different fighter now because of his size and strength gains due to extreme chemical use.

Oh man just look around at lots of the shit said about Reem. Lots of people get mad about shit like that.

Good for you on the HRT. It's finally becoming a real known problem in the med circles and doctors are waking up to it. And yes, test is a very wonderful thing.

I think you are crediting his PED's too much tho, and not taking into account that he was also a very young fighter then and still learning. I would simply say it's a combination of both.

And taking anabolics won't improve hand eye coordination. So his skill improved as well.