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FloridaMan88 03-01-2024 05:53 PM

Reerun-Crawler is impressed that Bill Walsh won three Super Bowls with a HOF QB and Paul Brown’s offense.

Rain Man 03-01-2024 06:14 PM

Coaches like Lombardi, Walsh, Noll, Landry, and Gibbs were great coaches, of course, but there's a key difference.

Those guys more or less built one team and rode it to glory. Sure they had to make a few personnel changes over their era, but they built championship rosters and then tweaked them here and there each year.

In the free agency era, you're building a new team constantly. Andy hasn't won three Super Bowls with one team, he's won three Super Bowls with three teams in five years. (And screw that cheating brady guy for stealing one from us.) Who started all three Super Bowls for the Chiefs? Mahomes, Kelce, Chris Jones, Butker ... anyone else? Maybe Nnadi if not for the injury.

Vince Lombardi lined up Starr, Hornung, Taylor, Gregg, Kramer, Ringo, Thurston, Willie Davis, Hanner, Jordan, Nitschke, Dave Robinson, Willie Wood, Herb Adderley, and probably some others for a full decade.

tredadda 03-01-2024 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17424677)
Coaches like Lombardi, Walsh, Noll, Landry, and Gibbs were great coaches, of course, but there's a key difference.

Those guys more or less built one team and rode it to glory. Sure they had to make a few personnel changes over their era, but they built championship rosters and then tweaked them here and there each year.

In the free agency era, you're building a new team constantly. Andy hasn't won three Super Bowls with one team, he's won three Super Bowls with three teams in five years. (And screw that cheating brady guy for stealing one from us.) Who started all three Super Bowls for the Chiefs? Mahomes, Kelce, Chris Jones, Butker ... anyone else? Maybe Nnadi if not for the injury.

Vince Lombardi lined up Starr, Hornung, Taylor, Gregg, Kramer, Ringo, Thurston, Willie Davis, Hanner, Jordan, Nitschke, Dave Robinson, Willie Wood, Herb Adderley, and probably some others for a full decade.

Despite all that these legendary coaches (outside Gibbs) needed a HOF QB to win. It’s by no means an indictment on them, as you can still be a legendary coach, but without HOF QB their playoff records are anything but spectacular. That’s why the knock on Andy for what he did prior to Mahomes is silly. He’s probably one of the most successful of the “legends” when they didn’t have a HOF QB.

You bring up a great point about how they built their teams without having to worry about silly things like the salary cap or free agency.

Oh and Hardman, Winchester started all three SBs while Alegretti was on this team for three.

Pablo 03-01-2024 08:29 PM

I've read so many posts by Mahomes Magic and Wallcrawler today. ****ing christ why did I do that to myself...

Those two just make me think about the duality of man or something like that.

https://imgb.ifunny.co/images/861c91...48437d0b_1.jpg

Wallcrawler 03-02-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsbundle of sticks88 (Post 17424657)
Reerun-Crawler is impressed that Bill Walsh won three Super Bowls with a HOF QB and Paul Brown’s offense.

Wow, you really are clinically reeruned. I don't want to laugh at you anymore. Like, we all make the reerun jokes and stuff because we know that it's fine, because nobody is actually reeruned.


I didn't know you actually were. I apologize.

I'll just go ahead and post a really cool NFL Films presentation on the topic, and then you won't have to post things that people will make fun of you for not knowing as a football fan.

https://youtu.be/X6mFQvZxX88?si=jGD3Kk9Kl5SgDMz2

FloridaMan88 03-02-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17425067)
Wow, you really are clinically reeruned. I don't want to laugh at you anymore. Like, we all make the reerun jokes and stuff because we know that it's fine, because nobody is actually reeruned.


I didn't know you actually were. I apologize.

I'll just go ahead and post a really cool NFL Films presentation on the topic, and then you won't have to post things that people will make fun of you for not knowing as a football fan.

https://youtu.be/X6mFQvZxX88?si=jGD3Kk9Kl5SgDMz2

Andy Reid, an offensive innovator wins Super Bowls with a HOF-caliber QB and Reerun-Crawler attacks him for it.

Meanwhile Bill Walsh also an offensive innovator who wins Super Bowls with a HOF-caliber QB, gets sucked off by Reerun-Crawker as one of the best HC’s ever.

The only thing more hilarious about your Reeruned stupidity is how obviously clueless and unaware you are of it. LMAO

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-02-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17425067)
Wow, you really are clinically reeruned. I don't want to laugh at you anymore. Like, we all make the reerun jokes and stuff because we know that it's fine, because nobody is actually reeruned.


I didn't know you actually were. I apologize.

I'll just go ahead and post a really cool NFL Films presentation on the topic, and then you won't have to post things that people will make fun of you for not knowing as a football fan.

https://youtu.be/X6mFQvZxX88?si=jGD3Kk9Kl5SgDMz2

I hope you know NFL Films is gonna make videos about Andy Reid's genius too.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-02-2024 10:54 AM

No one is winning a ****ing title with McNabb or Alex Smith

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-02-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17425121)
No one is winning a ****ing title with McNabb or Alex Smith

"But muh statistical top 5 QB."

I've actually never seen anyone white knight McNabb so hard in my life, while at the same time nailing Andy Reid to the ****ing cross.

RealSNR 03-02-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17425117)
I hope you know NFL Films is gonna make videos about Andy Reid's genius too.

Some Wallcrawler-type moron 50 years into the future:

"Andy Reid invented the West Coast offense!"

Pasta Little Brioni 03-02-2024 11:40 AM

Imagine winning 3 titles in 5 years and people STILL pitch about Chris Jones and Reid

CapsLockKey 03-02-2024 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17425125)
"But muh statistical top 5 QB."



I've actually never seen anyone white knight McNabb so hard in my life, while at the same time nailing Andy Reid to the ****ing cross.

Nevermind Reid also won games with guys like AJ Feely, Kevin Kolb, Koy Detmer, Matt Moore. Hell the ghost of Mike Vick had his best statistical passing years with Reid. He knows how to win with and coach up any QB.

It's just that if you are going to go all the way to a getting a SB you either need a top tier QB or a top tier defense. Those Niner, Cowboy and Patriot teams had both. To not recognize the scheme genius of Reid is shortsighted. Chad or Blaine could have thrown those corndog touchdowns.

Wallcrawler 03-02-2024 12:12 PM

Imagine holding the position of a coach being favored to win a football game, then mismanaging the football game and losing, but is absolved of any culpability because his qb wasn't a hall of famer.

Why does any coach without a hall of fame qb ever get fired I wonder?

It's obviously not their fault, winning is impossible without a HoF qb.

Andy lost an NFCCG in 2004 to the Carolina panthers.

Despite the table pounding that a HoF qb was required to defeat this team so Andy could get a superbowl berth, let's have a look at the quarterbacks that handed these legendary Panthers their 5 losses that season.

1. Steve McNair.

2. David Carr.

3. Quincy Carter

4. Doug Johnson

5. *drum roll*..

Donovan Mcnabb

What's this? Andy Reid defeated these legends with Donovan McNabb in November? But but but....but hooow?

Favored to win in the NFCCG but lost 14-3 to a team he had already defeated previously.

But it's all right. Andy needed a HoF qb to win a game he was favored to win over a team he'd already defeated without one, and that numerous other teams had done so as well.

Orrrrrrr....the guy just choked like he regularly did.

RealSNR 03-02-2024 12:17 PM

Do you know what the **** a paragraph is?

You don't have to type every sentence on its own line.

It's possible to string together multiple sentences into one idea or concept, and then add more of those ideas or concepts consisting of multiple sentences if you need to.

If you give each sentence its own line, you're just a rambling dickeater.

See how ****ing annoying this is?

Suck my dick.

Wallcrawler 03-02-2024 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 17425194)
To not recognize the scheme genius of Reid is shortsighted. Chad or Blaine could have thrown those corndog touchdowns.

Heh.

After the game, we learned that now-former Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy noticed the play while watching film of the Eagles’ Week 4 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, in which Jaguars’ head coach Doug Pederson called the play for two different Jacksonville touchdowns.


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