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ActiveShooter 03-13-2014 11:13 AM

Why can't they triangulate where the engines reported from? Anyone know?

htismaqe 03-13-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter (Post 10487312)
Why can't they triangulate where the engines reported from? Anyone know?

It depends on how many data collection points got the data. If it's only 1, they can't triangulate anything.

ActiveShooter 03-13-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10487331)
It depends on how many data collection points got the data. If it's only 1, they can't triangulate anything.

True, but I figured after 4 hours at 480 knots, it would probably be out of range of the original data collection point. What I haven't heard is what type of communication the engines use.
I wonder if the reporting engine story will go away as BS like most all leads in this story have.

Reerun_KC 03-13-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter (Post 10487415)
True, but I figured after 4 hours at 480 knots, it would probably be out of range of the original data collection point. What I haven't heard is what type of communication the engines use.
I wonder if the reporting engine story will go away as BS like most all leads in this story have.


777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

htismaqe 03-13-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10487424)
777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

So if it's a sat link, they probably only have one. Right?

Reerun_KC 03-13-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10487435)
So if it's a sat link, they probably only have one. Right?

Should have two of them. All systems have a redundant system.

htismaqe 03-13-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10487456)
Should have two of them. All systems have a redundant system.

Then triangulating the signal origination is theoretically possible.

Reerun_KC 03-13-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10487461)
Then triangulating the signal origination is theoretically possible.

If it was online long enough it could be possible.


This has more twists than a bag of pretzels....

ghak99 03-13-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10487424)
777's uplink everything via GPS from what I am told.

If that's the case, why is this plane "missing"?

mikeyis4dcats. 03-13-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveShooter (Post 10487189)
The 777 should have dropped the air masks in that event. Even if a door fell off, the masks would've dropped and the Cockpit should have enough air to allow staff to get masks. Autopilot should have put the plane in a very radar rich position. No Autopilot and I would imagine it would go down pretty fast, not stay up for 4 extra hours.

depressurization happens rapidly, a healthy person has only seconds to get a mask on, the depressurization creates hypoxia and sucks the 02 out of the atmoshpere almost instantly.

mikeyis4dcats. 03-13-2014 02:58 PM

they are saying the report about the engine transmission is false.

Rain Man 03-13-2014 03:01 PM

I'm starting to suspect that a roc nabbed it in mid-air and took it back to its nest.

If not that, my money is still on a Payne Stewart scenario.

keg in kc 03-13-2014 03:08 PM

I heard an interesting wacky theory a couple nights back that maybe it was hijacked, but for ransom rather than as a terrorist act. Along the lines of what somali pirates have been doing for years.

Rain Man 03-13-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10488242)
I heard an interesting wacky theory a couple nights back that maybe it was hijacked, but for ransom rather than as a terrorist act. Along the lines of what somali pirates have been doing for years.

That would be interesting. But it sure seems like it would be a lot harder to pull off than just getting a ship. I'm not sure why you'd go to the trouble.

I'd heard somewhere on the news or in this thread that terrorists sometimes try stuff in the third world before attempting it in America or Europe, so conceivably they could have tested an approach on this plane and then either finished it off via suicide or took it somewhere.

Or I wonder if perhaps they were figuring out how to cut off oxygen or depressurize the plane without the crew knowing. (I'm stuck on this Payne Stewart theory.)

keg in kc 03-13-2014 03:41 PM

I don't think it's terrorism. That's just the default answer for everything right now. My personal pet theory is that somebody shot it down.


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