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Titty Meat 05-23-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633214)
As a GM, he has plenty of positive results. Love you babe, but your turning to the dark side, young Skywalker.

Last place 2 out of the 3 years he's been here.

nychief 05-23-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8633216)
Success in what? Getting fired?

Coaches move. He was fired with regimes. He is 37, let's not be too hasty.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8633218)
Last place 2 out of the 3 years he's been here.

Last place in the AFC West, maybe, but by one ****ing game. We we're 7-9 and 8-8 took the division. Considering how many starters went down, that's not bad. I'm talking about as a GM, he's built a solid roster in a short time frame.

Again, he inherited a team that won 15 in 3 seasons, with one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL and look where we are now.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633223)
look where we are now.

We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633214)
As a GM, he has plenty of positive results.

The goal of a GM is not to assemble a talented roster that doesn't win.

Pioli has to ****ing win, or get the **** out.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633226)
We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Last year we had the worst QB in the division. It's a new year. The games haven't been played. I understand your hatred for the QB, but get real.

Titty Meat 05-23-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633223)
Last place in the AFC West, maybe, but by one ****ing game. We we're 7-9 and 8-8 took the division. Considering how many starters went down, that's not bad. I'm talking about as a GM, he's built a solid roster in a short time frame.

Again, he inherited a team that won 15 in 3 seasons, with one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL and look where we are now.

Last place is last place at the end of the days results are what matter.

Todd Haley, Matt Cassel, Tyson Jackson, and Dexter McCluster weren't part of the roster he inherited those were his own failings.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8633229)
Last year we had the worst QB in the division. It's a new year. The games haven't been played. I understand your hatred for the QB, but get real.

I'm being very real.

Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning are easily better than Cassel, and in two of the three cases it's not close.

Generally speaking, the worst QB in a given division does not win that division.

All this hope is sad. It's going to result in extreme amounts of rage when this season goes south. And I'll be here to say I told you so.

BigChiefFan 05-23-2012 12:48 AM

Woe is us, bitches.

Okie_Apparition 05-23-2012 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8632768)
What da ****


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)
When the whistle blew, Jamaal Charles and Eric Berry headed off to the corner of the far practice field while the rest of the Kansas City Chiefs began a full-squad practice.

In many ways it looked like last season, when the speedy running back and playmaking safety were recovering from torn knee ligaments. The difference this time was that Charles and Berry were dressed in shorts and jerseys and appeared on the cusp of returning.

That alone made the first in a series of organized team activities a success.

''I'm excited. Jamaal has made tremendous progress,'' quarterback Matt Cassel said. ''Every day he's been working out in the weight room and doing tremendous things already.''

Charles and Berry weren't alone in doing rehab work. Tight end Tony Moeaki is also coming back from a torn ACL. Defensive back DeQuan Menzie hurt his hamstring during a recent rookie minicamp, safety Kendrick Lewis is still working his way back from offseason shoulder surgery and linebacker Brandon Siler from a torn Achilles tendon.

That made six players expected to contribute heavily next season off to the side.

Then there was wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. The Chiefs have until July 16 to sign him to a long-term contract; otherwise he'll play next season under the franchise tag.

All the players sitting out gave others an opportunity to shine.

Jonathan Baldwin, the Chiefs' first-round pick last season, spent most of the workout running with the first team offense in place of Bowe. He made a couple of nifty grabs of throws from Cassel, one of them on a deep route down the left sideline when he was tightly covered.
''I'm going to continue to do the best I can do,'' said Baldwin, deftly sidestepping any talk about Bowe's absence. ''I don't know anything about that, so I'm just going to do the best I can.''

All the injuries at defensive back gave guys like Terrance Parks an opportunity.

He was signed as an undrafted free agent out of Florida State and found himself running with the first team defense for part of practice, something that first-round draft pick Dontari Poe couldn't pull off in his first organized workout.

Every time Parks stepped off the field, though, Berry and Lewis were right in his ear.

''They know what they're doing,'' Parks said. ''They're that way with all the rookies.''

The rookies will certainly have ample opportunity to shine during three weeks of workouts, all leading up to the Chiefs' mandatory minicamp in June. But for the time being, all eyes are on the guys over on a side practice field who are trying to work back from injuries.

Charles has said he'll be 100 percent for training camp after tearing his ACL in Week 2 last season. He was coming off a breakthrough year in which he ran for more than 1,400 yards.

Berry was coming off a Pro Bowl rookie season when he tore his ACL in Week 1, while Moeaki was coming off his own promising rookie season when he tore his ACL in his preseason finale.

Lewis was hurt in the Chiefs' regular-season finale, and although he played through the injury, it required surgery a short time later. He doesn't know when the training staff will clear him to play, but he expects it to be soon.

''Everything is going cool, according to plan, so whenever they release me,'' Lewis said. ''It's real frustrating, because I love the game. We've been way from it so long. You see guys out there, going to work, having fun, and you think, `Man, I wish I could be out there.'''

Cassel was back working with the first-team offense after his own season-ending injury.

The former Pro Bowl quarterback showed no sign of the injury to his throwing hand sustained midseason against Denver. Cassel had plenty of zip on his passes and appeared to be grasping the playbook put together by new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.

''We've been working really hard out there,'' he said. ''We've had limited on-field work, but we've been in the film room studying our butts off. It's been good to get out there and put and kind of compete against each other and put what we've learned on the field.''

Woe Woe Woe-If only Pioli could have snagged Fisher & Brian Schottenheimer
Baldwin would be riding a unicorn & rainbows would be shooting from Davard Darling's butt

Mr_Tomahawk 05-23-2012 05:19 AM

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis, Jerome Harrison all had career years under new #Chiefs OC Brian Daboll. Perhaps notable for Jamaal Charles.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633233)
I'm being very real.

Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning are easily better than Cassel, and in two of the three cases it's not close.

Generally speaking, the worst QB in a given division does not win that division.

All this hope is sad. It's going to result in extreme amounts of rage when this season goes south. And I'll be here to say I told you so.

Three great QB's, a brokedick, a crybaby, and a broken man. Each bids thier crappy team to win for them...who wins and who loses?

LOCOChief 05-23-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8633226)
We have the worst QB in the division and the worst HC in the division.

Get ready to finish 3rd or 4th again.

Worst HC in the division? I think you'll gladly end up eating crow for this. I don't think you would know a good coaching prospect if you saw one. How could you? If you never played you've never learned or been inspired by a coach and you wouldn't recognize those type characteristics that would separate a good coach from a bad one. It's different than evaluating players which by watching enough football you can do somewhat effectively even if you've never played. Not so with coach’s imo.

Dante84 05-23-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8633290)
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Reggie Bush, Peyton Hillis, Jerome Harrison all had career years under new #Chiefs OC Brian Daboll. Perhaps notable for Jamaal Charles.

If JC still has a career year in front of him, meaning it wasn't 2010,I will cry with joy.

If Hillis has a career year in front of him, I will be jacked up and sweating like when I left the theater after watching 300. Just looking to kill shit.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-23-2012 10:24 AM

Herm Fox, Norv Turner, and whoever the hell is coaching in Oakland. Such an edge they have ROFL


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