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How do you know Luke didn't give Leia "An Introduction to the Force" as a Christmas present a couple years after the Battle of Endor?

Chapter 1: Force Pull

siberian khatru

12-17-2017 08:07 PM

That casino scene was Casino Royale meets The Hunger Game.

Hammock Parties

12-17-2017 08:09 PM

https://i.redd.it/2uy20nlr7k401.jpg

manchambo

12-17-2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13292873)

not only did it look reeruned she did it with zero training.

If you read a'lot of the negatives about the movie are people bitching about the lack of any training scenes.

This movie would have been 100% better if the cut out the entire casino scene and had rey/kylo training montage

Kinda like Luke getting his light saber in extremis before he went to Yoda?

And your view that training montages would've made the movie better--I wonder why you aren't making movies?

Hammock Parties

12-17-2017 08:13 PM

they're like poetry, they rhyme

https://i.imgur.com/Yq0YenU.png

oaklandhater

12-17-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13292900)

How do you know Luke didn't give Leia "An Introduction to the Force" as a Christmas present a couple years after the Battle of Endor?

Chapter 1: Force Pull

It would be nice if Rian did just a tab bit of world building one tiny scene is all it would take

1.Poe how did you survive the blast Leia ?
2.An old trick my brother taught me.

Hammock Parties

12-17-2017 08:15 PM

http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-snoke-explained/

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“When I was working on the character of Kylo, I came to a place where I thought the most interesting thing would be to knock the shaky foundation out from under him at the beginning of this movie…By the end of this film, he’s gone from being a wannabe Vader to someone who is standing on his own feet as a complex villain taking the reins.”

“But then the question is: What place would Snoke have at the end of that?…That made me realize the most interesting thing would be to eliminate that dynamic between the ‘emperor’ and pupil, so that all bets are off going into the next one. That also led to the possibility of this dramatic turn in the middle, which could also be a really powerful connection point between Kylo and Rey.”

“It would have stopped any of these scenes dead cold if he had stopped and given a 30-second speech about how he’s Darth Plagueis…It doesn’t matter to Rey. If he had done that, Rey would have blinked and said, ‘Who?’ And the scene would have gone on…and I’m not saying he’s Darth Plagueis!”

oaklandhater

12-17-2017 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 13292923)

Kinda like Luke getting his light saber in extremis before he went to Yoda?

And your view that training montages would've made the movie better--I wonder why you aren't making movies?

So the only people who can criticize movies are directors now ?

Don't pull that ****ing card.

And Luke's 1st light saber duel went pretty haywire if you recall.

temper11

12-17-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13292873)

not only did it look reeruned she did it with zero training.

I don't know where all this need for training keeps coming from. Luke was able to BLINDLY deflect 3 blasts from a training droid with a lightsaber on his second attempt! How much training had he received before he was able to accomplish that? Virtually none. Obiwan tells him to reach out or something... that's it.

How much training did anakin receive when he, unlike any other human being - let alone a child - is able to compete and win in podracing? That's force users tapping into something they don't even understand.

How much training did the little kid have at the end of TLJ when he force grabs the broom?

But Leia does it and "Ohmygurd - no training!"

siberian khatru

12-17-2017 08:20 PM

It's good that the film is generating this much discussion. Wish you all could have heard the debate between my son and me. Stimulating stuff.

oaklandhater

12-17-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13292947)

I hate that little kid grabbing a Broom scene so damm much.

The Luke and Anakin being naturally good can be explained by the share fact they are ****ing skywalkers

You can't say the same about Ray she is just some rando nothing special about her what so ever.

Yet Disney gave her a pass to roll with the big guns in power level because every one was expecting some giant reveal so lets do the exact opposite of that so critics will love it.

oaklandhater

12-17-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13292964)

It's good that the film is generating this much discussion. Wish you all could have heard the debate between my son and me. Stimulating stuff.

If he liked Rey's back story and Snoke dying right off the bat I take your side.

temper11

12-17-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13292942)

So the only people who can criticize movies are directors now ?

Don't pull that ****ing card.

And Luke's 1st light saber duel went pretty haywire if you recall.

When did luke learn to force pull/grab? How was he able to summon his lightsaber to save himself from the abominable snowman? No such training took place. I think all this talk of training is oddly misplaced.

mnchiefsguy

12-17-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13292968)

Sorry, but this is just BS. Anakin was a nobody when he was discovered. So was Kenobi. Hell, the Skywalker clan only exists because Anakin broke the rules.

You see the Jedi as a ruling class with lineage, and that is what they are not.

Technically, it might not matter if Rey's parents were special......if she is a Kenobi, then it is her Grandfather that is special. It is entirely possible that Obi-Wans kid turned out to be a loser, and wound up dumping Rey for drinking money.

mnchiefsguy

12-17-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13292991)

When did luke learn to force pull. How was he able to summon his lightsaber to save himself from the abominable snowman? No such training took place. I think all this talk of training is oddly misplaced.

Good point. Plus, Leia would really only need a slight pull to get her going....physics would then take over--a body in motion stays in motion.

Was the scene implausible? Sure. Did I hate it more than the balcony/romance scenes in ATOC? Hell no.

Leia was so good after that scene....if they kill her there they waste Carrie Fisher's last great performance. I will take the implausible slightly cheesing force floating for that.

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