Oh bullshit man....MU won last year in Columbia due to a BS Steve Moore flopping charge on Thomas Robinson so I don't wanna hear that shit. Bad calls happen all the time. Bottom Line: MU didn't play defense worth a shit and if you let a team hang around til the end you have a chance to lose and thats exactly what happened tonight.

That's exactly what I saw too. Good call from the refs...it looked a lot worse than what it actually was. He even stayed on the ground for a min acting like he was seeing tweety bird. great acting job by pressey.

Go **** yourself bundle of sticks, then kill yourself. Wait, kill your family first then off yourself.

Except he wasn't trying to make a play on the ball. KU get's that call every time.

nice...

:rolleyes:

no they don't.

just another little brother syndrome myth that spews from the mouth of a MU fan. That's seriously all it is.

Beakers had to have officiating that had officials trying to send them to the line I think it was 42 times last year when Mizzou played at Kansas. So yes, compared to the screwing teams get at The Fraud, this was somewhat weaker

KU was fouled 22 times in Lawrence compared to fouling Missouri 16 times.

Conversely, in Columbia, KU was whistled for 20 fouls, while Missouri was only whistled for 10 the whole game. And there were plenty of terrible calls in Columbia that helped the Tigers out.

In all fairness, even I thought the foul calls at Mizzou arena last year were questionable. However, that remains the only time I can remember where there was an appreciable difference in fouls that leaned in Mizzou's favor, home or away. Part of that is talent- better talent forces poorer defensive play. But college basketball officiating absolutely has a built-in favor for the more marquee teams, and having referees assigned only to specific conferences (see: Pac12 officiating crew, UCLA v Mizzou 2012) only creates an opportunity for officials to protect and bolster the sacred cows within their conference.

That and MU for the last better part of the decade...never goes inside on Kansas because they know better. They've been a perimeter scoring team up until this season where they finally have some size down low. You get the ball inside and attack the basket, you're going to get to the line.

Why in the world does EVERYTHING about Mizzou sports have to ultimately come back to KU? Can't you live without us? "It gets better...it really does."

There was a freakanomics episode about officiating and how it usually favors the home team because of the referees getting intimidated by the crowd. I think KU's raucous atmosphere definitely makes a difference, whereas in arenas where the crowd isn't quite so rambunctious, there is less of a difference in officials' calls.

I know that KU has a couple of referees that really dislike the Jayhawks, like John Higgins.

This...

I agree. And I'll add that once a program is labeled "elite" (and KU's is very elite) there's a phenomenon that goes unspoken that those programs, and their elite players, tend to get calls. You can't put your finger on it, but it's as apparant as invisible air, it's just there. Yet people with dilute the argument with "there's a hold on every play," "they neext to protect .....," "they weren't in the right position to make the call," "you have to earn respect," so on and so forth. By the time you're done, the obvious charge under the basket is written of to "letting them play," but 12 seconds later, at the other end of the court, the shadow that touched a players underarm hair is called a shooting foul. A ball that's six inches off the black of the plate is called a strike (Smoltz and Glavine int he 90s [and I'm an Atlanta fan!]), so written off as, "well it's a hitters game, and the camera isn't behind the plate," (not dumbass, it's over it - the best angle!) - and K-zone technology is still written off. Ties at 1st base not being reviewable because, "it'd slow down the pace of the game" (and illuminate the need for electronic help if you want to get the call right)!

So officiating is challenging, I'm the father of a young Football/Baseball/Wrestling "official" who loves it, but has learned how difficult it is. He's also learned how to take a dressing-down by a few coaches and some Moms too.. And at his level, I think it's OK to not have electronic help because of the cost, but when you get into these HUGE money situations, not only should the "help" be dutifully incorporated into the sport, but an open review of the officials should be OK. My God, if politicians can take the heat of open public review, these "real" people should be able to too.

Maybe to a point but fans usually don't react unless there's an obvious miss-call.

refs make calls as the action is taking place...and fans react afterwards.

Fans are stupid. They don't have the best view of the action. The ref usually does. Many times, fans boo on completely legit calls.

Well dumbass, this is a Mizzou thread so obviously you can't live without reading about SEC teams that are not your rival and will probably never be playing your team in any sport so apparently you can't live without MU. And it was a halfassed beaker that started talking shit the minute that the game was decided so apparently she can't live without thinking about MU either.

What are you doing in an MU thread?

Give me negative rep all you want for my opinion. But this clip makes it pretty obvious that it was just one of those quick reach fouls that Pressy tried to sell.

http://i.imgur.com/UleDM.gif
http://i.imgur.com/68okh.gif

When the MU player got T'd up for putting the ball on the floor, the refereeing bias was illustrated.

This team is weak and stupid. They are going to lose at home to Bucknell. How ****ing sad.

Coming down to the wire.

Is Quin Snyder coaching again? Jeez

Here comes the BS 3 from midcourt range.

Pressey is hands down the best passing PG in the country and he can score. Seems to try and score a little too much at times.


MU needs someone other than Pressey to be the scorer.

That's been their game so far.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Would have been nice if Bell would have dunked against UCLA.

Aaaaaand we can't rebound.

for some reason frank haith doesn't believe rebounding is important in these situatiosn so he never plays oriaki

Wow

We just got lucky. He was out but he also traveled. MU deserved to lose this game, I hate to say it

and we need to get to the free throw line better.... 2 games and hardly any opposing team fouls at the end of the second half...

I swear they spent half the 1st period throwing up shots with 30 secs left on the shot clock

Unreal.

Please make...

If that were a big name school the ref misses that call. lol

Please make again...and foul

FOUL

I'd foul here...just quick, put them at the line with no shot at 3

I'm always leary of fouling, but I think at home I'd probably play it out.

The ol Valpo play there.

Whew

True, but Bucknell isn't the type of school that can beat a good school.

Got lucky.

Kind of a close one there.

I see what you did there.

Thoughts on that game...

1) Bucknell doesn't have a big name, but it's a good team. Muscala is a legitimate interior player and they play well around him.

2) Missouri might have gotten lucky with Muscala stepping out of bounds, but how many lucky shots did Bucknell make in the 2nd half (high off the rim, banking it in when not trying, etc)? Evens out, IMO.

3) Glad that's the last really long break they have this season. You could see some rust.

4) I like keeping Ross on the floor at the end - his combo of size/athleticism is a nice thing to have out there. But I think that it would be good to go to Oriakhi instead of Bowers. Get a little more beef and reboudning/shot blocking out there.

Mu's not a top25 team.

More of a top 10 team.

Como fail all over the place

I won't go that far

This team needs to be more disciplined on the offensive side. Quit the quick shooting, work the ball around and the clock. They need to pound the ball inside a lot more than they are.

Pounding it inside is going to be tough (or tougher) if Mizzou doesn't shoot well enough from the perimeter to keep teams from packing it in. They didn't in this game, and Bucknell sagged inside all game.

Bowers is also the only guy who really is a consistent threat to score when you throw it in to him. Oriakhi is not a great back-to-basket scorer/option.

I think this team misses Criswell. His energy/skill/defense/rebounding were a really nice option off the bench. And his mobility would give Mizzou a much better matchup against the bigs it has seen in the past two games.

That said... I know Haith wants Pressey to shoot when he's wide open, but I'd rather him pull it out, probe again, and shoot deeper in the shot clock.

Did I miss something? What happened to Criswell?

Yeah they are. They are ranked #12.

He broke his finger against SC State. That's why he hasn't played the past two games. He should be back soon - they thought he MIGHT be able to play today. The cast is off, from what I saw on the sideline.

That's also why Ross has been getting a lot of time in 4-guard sets in the past two games.

completely overrated.

You're trolling as usual, but please list 12 teams you feel are better. Just to see if you have the stones to do it.

It hasn't been noted in this thread that RPI and Sagarin both love Bucknell. They're No. 30 in the RPI right now, and only Kentucky, Florida, Missouri and Ole Miss are higher in Sagarin amongst SEC teams.

MU scheduled them as a sick joke to rub it in on us!!!!!/Beakers

Let's see your top 25, tough guy.

Illinois beat Ohio State by 19 today.

Neat.

Tough, hard fought win. Can only help in the long run.

That should help MU's SoS, etc.

Good win for MU today.


However, Sagarin doesn't know anything. I'd avoid using Sagarin to prove any point you might have. Especially using Sagarin to discuss strengths of SEC teams. I wouldn't do it. Waste of time. That's what I've been told.

So all of the KU fans who posted about Sagarin non stop last year were full of it?

Don't waste your time. He hasn't watched Mizzou play, he's trolling - as per his S.O.P.

I'm joking about all the MU fans saying Sagarin football ratings this year don't matter.

Yep. I am excited about the conference schedule. I think Mizzou has the chance to do really, really well in conference play.

Probably but they have to improve on their ball control. They are throwing up too many undisciplined shots too often. They aren't working the ball back and forth and they are taking way, way, way too many quick shots.

LMAO

Go kill yourself.

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/ind...picks-missouri


Mizzou picked up a huge commitment as they received a verbal from one of the nation’s premier JUCO big men on Sunday morning in Keanu Post.

The SWIC big man has received interest from coast to coast because of his size at 6’11” and considerable upside.

Post will join an already stellar trio of four-star high school prospects in power forward Torren Jones, power forward Jonathon Williams, and guard Wes Clark.

The commitment was confirmed by SWIC assistant coach Robert Belleville

That's a big get. Literally.

#10 in the latest poll.

Post's commitment probably pushes this back to a top 15 class. Could be top 10 if JW3 gets a bump from his HS season and is a top 25-30 player again (he was top 25 originally, fell during his junior year because of injuries).

Haith continues to prove me wrong.

Only question left at this point is how his teams will do/look without Pressey to run the show. Wes Clark/Jordan Clarkson will have some big shoes to fill next season. I think Anton Beard, who's a 2014 kid, will excel in this system, though. Just need to bridge the gap to him...

haith's retooling of the team after losing Dixon at the start of the season has been amazing.

But they are clearly not a Top 25 team./JokeMO