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I can't believe I just saw them give Kofi Kingston a victory on SD.

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts (Post 4655309)

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More glaring evidence of TNA's 'special needs' management:

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TNA Wrestling's Plan To Disrupt WrestleMania XXIV
Date Added: March 29, 2008
Story By: Richard Gray

Dave Meltzer reported earlier today on the Wrestling Observer website that WWE has learned of TNA Wrestling's plan to fly an aircraft with a banner that reads something along the lines of "Watch TNA Impact" at some point during tomorrow's WrestleMania pay-per-view.

While the banner obviously will not make it on the pay-per-view broadcast, everyone in attendance will be able to see it. Meltzer is reporting that numerous incidents have occurred over the weekend involving TNA and WWE although the specifics are still in the process of being confirmed.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4655311)

Burke's a non-entity right now. They're turning him into a jobber.I thought it might be Khali until they had Mark Henry make him look like a bitch tonight.

Watch it be fucking Festus. I'm still waiting for a smart heel to ring the bell mid-match to turn him back into a reerun. Actually, it has to be somebody good enough to put on a WM match with Chavo.

Question is...who the hell is that, out of those 24?

Well, Burke is plenty good enough to put on an entertaining match with Chavo, imo. But WWE likes to frustrate me with their inability to effectively utilize young talent.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4656467)

More glaring evidence of TNA's 'special needs' management:

Half the crowd will be going, "What's a TNA?"

I actually just got in an argument with a couple of my friends who think what TNA is doing is fine because "Vince doesnt own the sky" and "WWE went down to their territory then locks them out of their own hotel"

of course these people hate Vince one was an avid WCW mark and has never recovered, all he does is complain.

Anyone else watching the HOF show?

Haha, Cena looks preposterous in a suit.

I miss the Slammy Awards.

(RIP Owen)

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4655314)

I can't believe I just saw them give Kofi Kingston a victory on SD.

I don't think he's lost a match yet, he wins all the time.

EVERYONE STOP CRYING

I love the concept, but I think they're going a bit overboard on the HOF invites. It would seem more genuine if they invited just 2 or 3 guys a year, rather than guys like Eddie Graham or The Rock's dad.

Also, why the hell did Triple H present for Flair? Where the hell was The Enforcer? That was disappointing.

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As previously reported, WWE senior vice president John Laurinaitis and TNA vice president Jeff Jarrett were among several representatives of both companies hanging out in an Orlando bar on Friday night. We now have a list of the names who were there from both companies:

Edge, Christian, Kevin Nash, MVP, Rhino, Karen Angle, Mr. Kennedy, Shelton Benjamin, Samoa Joe, Robert Roode, Gail Kim, Scott Steiner, ODB, Traci Brooks, Jeremy Borash and David Penzer. Former WCW wrestler Glacier, who is now a middle school teacher, was also there visiting friends.

Undertaker and a female friend were also spotted picking up Booker T and Sharmell at another location for dinner.

AT WRESTLEMANIA...

BLOOD RUNS COLD

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AT WRESTLEMANIA...

BLOOD RUNS COLD

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4656609)

I don't think he's lost a match yet, he wins all the time.

It wasn't that he won, it was that it was on smackdown...

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4656613)

EVERYONE STOP CRYING

That was just surreal. I don't think I've ever seen a hof ceremony (got to be honest, I just wanted to see the Rock be the Rock again one last time...) but man, seeing all those guys in tears was just crazy. Big Show lost it, Stone Cold (?!?!) just about lost it, Batista was sobbing behind his sunglasses, HBK holding it back the best he could, Cena in tears, just everybody crying. Never thought I'd ever see anything like that.

I hated Flair for the longest time. I hated watching him in WCW because I didn't want to see this flabby old man taking up TV time. Felt the same way in WWE most of the time, too, but the last two years or so, he's made me a fan.

What was with all the guys taking pot shots at the Rock?

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4656686)

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...h22-28/6742354

John Morrison has no nickels.

The dirt sheet is one of the greatest things ever, Morrison has become a favorite of mine.

Full recap of Flair's speech, wish I could've seen it all...

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HHH introduced Flair, who got the longest standing ovation I have ever seen. Flair pulled out a photo of himself and Gordon Solie and said to Shawn Michaels that's who he had to fight. Flair said he would never retire and let out a whoo.

He said in a moment like this, he realizes that for all he's done, he must have done something right. He was crying a lot.

Flair said he's worried about not remembering enough people to thank. He started by thanking Kevin Dunn and the WWE production team for what they do every week and making him look good the last seven years.

Flair said he wanted to thank the legal department because some of the things he used to pull don't fly anymore. He thanked a lot of WWE officials including Sue Aitchensen and Mark Carano.

Flair said he loves to talk to the young guys and praised all the WWE agents for working their ass off every week. He thanked Mike Rotunda, Barry Windham, Finlay, Jamie Noble, Pat Patterson, Sgt Slaughter, Jerry Brisco, Arn Anderson and Rick Steamboat.

Flair then thanked the writing team, saying that although they sometimes argue about what they are asked to do, they are creative and talented. He named many of them by name and apologized to Ed Koskey for all the times he scared him by saying things he wasn't supposed to be.

Flair thanked those who made his robes over the years and his boots. Flair said he figured out today he bought 582 pairs of boots over the years.

Flair began crying as he thanked his attorney John Taylor. He said he was in a lawsuit with WCW and Taylor advised him he could sit back and get rich or go back to work.

Flair thanked Steve Lombardi for all his hard work in putting together the interviews we see all the time and Downtown Bruno for bringing him a 12-pack every night.

Flair joked that his family thought Chris Jericho was Bon Jovi. Flair talked about Big Show, saying he knew Andre the Giant when he was first breaking in. Flair said Big Show was the best big man he's ever been in the ring with. Show began openly sobbing.

Flair praised Tony Garea and Tim White for all the draws they give him on the road.

Flair began praising Edge and said he's a special guy and a great champ. He told the story of working a ladder match with him saying he did something with Edge he never did before and loved it.

Flair said now the speech would begin!!

He showed off NWA title cufflinks HHH gave Flair.

Flair began breaking down thanking Betty Skaaland and the late Arnold Skaaland for all their kindness. Flair told a story of going out drinking all night and running up a bartab of $30K during Summerslam 1992 weekend and Skaaland saving his rear end.

Flair said Ray Stevens once told him the day the goose bumps go away, his career should end and Flair said he has goose bumps tonight. He said tonight was the end of a journey he's lived for so many years.

Flair put over the other members of this year's Hall of Fame class. He said it was special to receive the honor while still active. He said that he wants all of the talents to know how much he respects all of them and thanks them for their friendship and respect. He said the last 7 years have been special to him and he's honored to be inducted in Orlando, "the second home of Space Mountain".

Flair talked about working in Florida as a territory and doing interviews with Gordon Solie. Flair said he owes everything he had, has, and will be to the wrestling business. He said he hopes that fans realize that Flair gave everyone the best he could.

Flair thanked those who helped him who are no longer with them.

Ric Flair talked about being laid up after his plane crash and George Scott suggesting he be modeled after Buddy Rogers. He thanked Scott for seeing something in him.

Flair began talking about the toughness of Blackjack Mulligan and living next to him. Flair told a story of Blackjack and Barry Windham against The Andersons and BJ not liking how it was going. He sent Windham to the locker room, hit Ole and Gene, then told them if they wanted a piece of him, he'll be waiting in their locker room. He said the Andersons still haven't entered. He praised Blackjack's ability to show how special he is and told the young talents that is what they need to do... show how special they are.

Flair discussed winning the NWA title from Harley Race.

This is seriously beyond awesome. If you ever loved Ric Flair, the NWA or WCW, you need to see this speech.

Flair talked for a long time about his friendship with Ken Patera and said Ken introduced Flair to Verne Gagne.

Gagne warned Flair there was no quitting if he started training. He said the second day, he wanted to quit and talked a long time about training in Gagne's barn. He quit and went home. Gagne came to Flair's house and threw him down and told him to come back. A week later Flair quit again and Gagne called and warned him to come back or he was coming over. Flair returned and 2 months later he was in the business.

Flair began telling Wahoo McDaniel stories I couldn't do justice too. He praised Wahoo for teaching him and showing him how to be the best.

Flair said Dusty Rhodes became one of his idols and wanted to be just like him. He told stories about wanting to be Rambling Ricky Rhodes when he was breaking in and said Dusty's connection to the fans was as awesome as anything Flair has ever seen. He talked about Dusty seeing something in him and naming the first Starrcade 'A Flair for the Gold'. He said Dusty is the most charismatic person in the business.

Flair said his greatest opponent was Rick Steamboat, saying that was "as good as it got" and he's fortunate to have had Steamboat to work with to create a body of work that will stand the test of time.

Flair talked about working in St. Louis under Sam Muschnick, saying it was the crown jewel of the NWA and praised Sam for his integrity and honesty. He said wrestling there was as big an honor as it was to wrestle in Madison Square Garden and anywhere in the Carolinas.

Flair praised the Crockett family for pushing him to be NWA champ. He said he wishes them nothing but the best.

Flair pointed out Carlos Colon in the crowd and talked about how Carlos and Vince McMahon Sr. were the deciding votes to make him NWA champ. Flair told a story about sending in a heel promo about hating Trinidad that got him arrested when he arrived. Flair told the story about the riot in the Dominican Republic and that Carlos paid off the airline for Flair to travel without a passport.

Flair said no one will understand how good the Four Horsemen were inside and outside the ring. He praised Arn, Malenko, Mongo and Benoit (by name) and said they were the reason he came back to WCW. Benoit's name got some boos but mostly cheers.

Flair began crying as he praised Arn Anderson as a friend and as a performer. He told some great stories about partying with Arn and told him he loved him.

Flair praised Tommy Young and Charles Robinson for their great referee work. Nora Greenwald was sitting with Robinson.

Flair praised Gordon Solie and Jim Ross provided the soundtrack of his career. Flair said no one could ever replace Jim Ross and that he knew the business inside and out.

Flair said Bobby Heenan was the greatest manager and one of the greatest workers of all time. He told some stories of Heenan managing the Blackjacks when a riot broke out. He said Heenan is not in good health right now but he wants everyone to know he's one of the best friends Flair ever had.

Flair then told some stories about Gene Okerlund and said he wouldn't have made it through WCW without going drinking with him after the shows. He said Okerlund is wrestling and is awesome.

Flair talked about his confidence issues and thanked Michael Hayes for being a close friend and for never letting Flair forget who he was. He told a tory about seeing Hayes with Cher and Greg Allman.

They just gave Flair a "go home" sign, which the crowd booed.

Flair said he knows his last match could be tomorrow and it could be in front of his family at ringside and told Shawn "to be the man you have to beat the man". He thanked everyone for their love.

Flair praised Undertaker for being so great in the ring and that he loved their match at Wrestlemania 18.

Flair thanked the McMahons and said Vince has treated him with nothing but respect while Linda is one of the smartest women he's ever known. Flair said when the time comes, WWE will be in equally good hands with Stephanie and Shane.

Flair praised John Cena's love and passion. He said he's tireless and is the "go to guy" in the company. Flair said his heart is in the business and he won't leave the business for Hollywood. Flair said he corrupted Cena and told stories about making him drink.

Flair said he was tired of hearing Hulk Hogan was the greatest of all time in the WWF and WWE when it was really Steve Austin. He said Austin was the best.

Another "go home" sign. More boos.

Flair praised Batista and Randy Orton. Flair said he lives his life vicariously thru Batista now.

They are rushing Flair since the Hall is on the air now.

Flair praised HHH and said he wishes he could wrestle him back when Flair was good. Flair then talked about Shawn Michaels saying he was way ahead of Flair a long time ago but tomorrow, Shawn has "The Man" to contend with.

Flair said he's so thankful to have a wonderful family. He said his father was the bravest man he ever knew and his mom is amazing. He said his wife is his best friend and inspires him every day. Flair told his kids he loved them and thanked his first two wives for all their hard work as mothers. His children were all crying.

The fans were very upset at the constant calls for Flair to wrap up, and at one point turned their wrath towards Triple H, who helplessly responded with a "It's not my call" expression.

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4656686)

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...h22-28/6742354

John Morrison has no nickels.

lmao, that's some funny shit. Carlito and Punk...

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4656687)

What was with all the guys taking pot shots at the Rock?

He took up an hour, they were making fun of him for going long.

I love the Rock, and man, the gap between him and anybody in WWE now is about marianas trench deep, but seeing him talk about his love for the business almost made me laugh. Not that he didn't love it when he was in it, but he's a hollywood boy now, through and through, he's never coming back. And God could they use him.

I almost felt sorry for Cena. He was probably the most genuine (young) guy on stage tonight when he talked about his love and respect, and he got booed out of the building by the smarks.

Colt Cabana sighting on Punk's WrestleMania Diary: http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemani...usives/6731672

Flairs comment about how Cena loves the business and won't leave for Hollywood to me is a total pot shot at the Rock.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4656758)

Flairs comment about how Cena loves the business and won't leave for Hollywood to me is a total pot shot at the Rock.

Yeah, it read that way to me, too. I don't think that aired, or if it did, I missed it.

So, what is the general feeling? Will Michaels beat Flair tonight and end his career?

I was certainly thinking that Flair was going to lose to end his career on the big stage. After that speech last night I am willing to bet that Flair will win a hard fought match and then announce his retirement. That way he can go out on a win instead of a loss. Either way, I think there is little doubt that tonight will be Flair's last match.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4656731)

I almost felt sorry for Cena. He was probably the most genuine (young) guy on stage tonight when he talked about his love and respect, and he got booed out of the building by the smarks.

I have no idea why they don't give Cena a heel turn, the fans are begging for it. He's never going to be the ultra babyface Vince wants, at least at this point, so why don't they take him heel and inject some life back into his character?

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4657012)

His core fanbase is little kids/little girls, and I don't think they want to risk losing it with a heel turn.

Funny thing is, the WWE audience right now gets all confused anyway. It's nothing out of the ordinary to hear them cheering heels, happens with Edge and Orton all the time.

I still think one of the coolest things to happen recently was the reeruned "Orton/Cena versus Raw" match a couple of weeks ago (I don't mean the match itself was reeruned, just the idea of it...). By the end of that match, that crowd was tearing the roof off cheering for the two of them, the mortal enemies.

As for Flair, I have no idea, but my guess is Flair loses, and it wouldn't shock me for one of them to 'screw' the other over by ending the match early against the script to make sure he loses. Because you know both of them want to put the other one over.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4656758)

Flairs comment about how Cena loves the business and won't leave for Hollywood to me is a total pot shot at the Rock.

I doubt the Rock gives a shit. Hmm... make movies in Hollywood or wrestle and be on the road for 300 days a year. Tough choice.

We're in the Final Four! I'M BUYING WRESTLEMANIA!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4657512)

I doubt the Rock gives a shit. Hmm... make movies in Hollywood or wrestle and be on the road for 300 days a year. Tough choice.

That may be true, but given his wrestling heritage, I guarantee that he would like to be taken seriously by the wrestling brotherhood.

Wrestling is such a terrible business that I'm alternately happy for and mad at Rocky. I can't blame him at all, though.

He should sign a deal to just show up on Raw and insult the roster every six months or so.

ECW Battle Royal prediction:

http://i29.tinypic.com/2eltgsg.gif

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4657521)

I'M BUYING WRESTLEMANIA!!!!!!!

I ordered it last night. It's recording it, so I'll probably start watching the preshow shit about 6:30 and then the main show so I can fast-forward through all the vignettes I've seen about 8 billion times.

Ny kids are watching it live but I work until 9, get home around 10. We are recording it so I can watch a couple of matches I am interested in like the Flair match. Now I just have to stay out of this thread once it starts. :)

Spoiler for tonight:

http://i25.tinypic.com/eq9yd2.jpg

THE SETUP LOOKS ****ING AWESOME

Bye Festus!

Awesome spot with Jamie Noble climbing up the bodies of eliminated competitors to avoid hitting the floor, but then blammo.

Khali is too big to skin the cat.

Kane vs. Henry and Snitsky. Definitely going to be Kane-Chavo. I guess some sort of screwjob finish to allow Chavo to retain. Maybe intentional DQ.

We open with Finlay murdering JBL!

JBL is either sucking in hardcore or he's had lipo on his gut.

HOLY SHIT! Finlay went flying with a suicide dive and JBL nailed him with a garbage can lid. Reminiscent of the Jericho-Benoit chair shot.

Hahaha, JBL just threw a garbage can at Hornswoggle.

Nooooooooo! Not like this, damnit!

/Cole

Seriously, why did JBL win? What the ****?

MITB TIME!

Now listen! This ain't no make believe!

Morrison's entrance graphic was awwwwwwwesome.

The set is like 9 miles tall.

Joust between MVP and Jericho, but Jericho's ladder was bigger. Awesome.

JESUS CHRIST MORRISON

SUNSETBOMBPLEX

Lollin' at Carlito's reaction to Shelton going splat.

You called it, Matt Hardy back.

MATTVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY'RE BURYING PUNK GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!

Things we've learned so far tonight:

- Santino is still awesome
- Umaga is a face in Orlando
- The ECW title is in a strange place right now

OH **** FLAIR TIME

Things we've learned so far tonight:

- THEY'RE BURYING PUNK DAMNIT
- Santino is still awesome
- Umaga is a face in Orlando and Batista sucks
- The ECW title is in a strange place right now

OH **** FLAIR TIME

Stand up you guys! :shake:

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Originally Posted by Sandy Limpdick (Post 4658251)

Stand up you guys! :shake:

"I can't, I'm in a wheelchair!"

:(

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 4658253)

"I can't, I'm in a wheelchair!"

:(

That's botchamania material right there.

That is one hell of a robe. Those fireworks... wow.

Little Naitch!

First hour awesome (once I ffwd through the bullshit brawl).

I still can't believe they gave it to punk, and you know he's using it tonight, they just played that up too much. God I hope it's edge and not chavo. Just imagine, Edge ends taker's streak in a long bloody match, and then out comes punk with edge down to take the title just like edge got both the mitb and the title.

Too soon to put a 'real' title on him, though. It'll be chavo, if they do it tonight.

rofl, Michael Cole just said "Umaga and Bootista" at the beginning of the raw/sd match, right after the bell rang.

That might have cracked a couple ribs.

ASAI MOTHER****ING MOONSAULT ONTO THE TABLE

Shawn, you rock so hard.

ROFL, so much for Chavo. That may have been the greatest squash ever.

Is it just me or does Bootista look legit hurt?

I think I'm almost caught up to the live show.

That was amazing.

I'm on the verge of tears. Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 4658328)

whats going on

Flair-Shawn was an unbelievable match with a downright beautiful finish. Shawn said, "I'm sorry," Flair was like, "WELL GET ON WITH IT MOTHE--," and then HBK broke out the SCM (the third or fourth of the match). After the three count Shawn kissed Flair on the forehead.

Now a curtain call.

Oh sweet, piss break. I needed that.

dammit i should have forked over the 50 bucks, o well keep me updated

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 4658340)

dammit i should have forked over the 50 bucks, o well keep me updated

I was very hesitant, and this is the first PPV I've bought since... InVasion, I think. Completely worth the FIFTY-FIVE ****ING DOLLARS, and the Mayweather-Show match and Edge Time haven't even happened yet.

Finlay-JBL was a great opener, MITB was outstanding, Batista-Youmanga was actually pretty fun aside from the Batista Bomb botch at the end, Kane-Chavo was hilarious, and Flair-HBK... good God. Someone else said it best: "I love wrestling right now more than I have in a long time."

This is the first show I've bought since WM last year. It's blowing that one away (and it was a good show). That was about as perfect an end to the Flair match as they could have done.

And I knew it had to be the diva shitfest after that, there's no way you'd be able to put on a real match after that...

ROFL, mercedes snoop-mobile.

"Bizz-uggy, fo shizzle" from lawler, lmao.

Hahahaha, the lights just went out during the Playboy match.

OH MY GOD I BET IT'S STING!

It was God saving us from Ashley and Maria's "wrestling".

Wait, are they putting the triple threat third from the top?! Awesome.

FAMU Marching 100! Where were you guys for MVP's entrance?

Okay, that's an awesome rendition of Cena's theme.

This music goes great with Cena's video.

Samoa Beth with the Musclebuster and snoop dog with the clothsline, lmao.

I'm not all that surprised the 3-way's next, and I'd probably have swapped it with Flair's match. It's one of the least interesting matches on the card IMO, they haven't done a very good job of building it.

You can't see him! (Because the lights are still ****ed up)

Ohhhhhh shit, those fireworks are awesome. God, they should have Wrestlemania outdoors every year.

That Cena entrance was just weird.

And I will never understand why people cheer for Levesque.

I hope this match doesn't suck.

Good, Orton retaining was the right call.