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keg in kc 09-16-2019 11:34 AM
Oh yeah, Aykroyd has always been a big paranormal guy, and not just UFO's. I'll have to give that a listen.

Pitt Gorilla 09-16-2019 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14414605)
This was pretty fascinating:

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That was awesome. Ground penetrating radar is a game changer.

Pitt Gorilla 09-16-2019 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14408166)
So I just started watching 'The Family' on Netflix, and it's hands down one of the most sickening and just plain scary conspiracies I've ever seen. The sheer idea that a big part of both branches of Congress and the white house itself has been controlled or orchestrated or however you want to phrase it by a single very cult-like religious group for the last 40 years is just disturbing.
Yeah, that was almost unwatchable.

keg in kc 09-16-2019 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14452373)
Yeah, that was almost unwatchable.
Yeah, I still don't know how much of it is actually real, but it was certainly interesting to watch.

Pitt Gorilla 09-16-2019 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14452399)
Yeah, I still don't know how much of it is actually real, but it was certainly interesting to watch.
I just found it creepy/disgusting.

keg in kc 09-16-2019 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14452816)
I just found it creepy/disgusting.
No question there.

I have a real difficulty with people trying to drag church into the state, so to speak. They're ****ing with the foundation of the country, both constitutionally and historically, no matter how much they want to rationalize to themselves and everyone else with the whole "this has always been a Christian nation!" bullshit.

No. It has not. This has been a "Christian nation" since the 1950s when they propped up Communism as this Godless Atheist threat to everything good and Christian, and forced "God" into the pledge and onto money and into every other nook and cranny they could find. It's social engineering built on fear.

And it's, of course, the exact same thing they're doing right now with "Global warming isn't real/Science is bad!" "Don't vote for them, they're all socialists!" and that favorite old ditty "They want to take our guns!"

And that fear mongering works really great with a certain segment of the population, enough to get a president elected with a platform that amounts to little more than fear and vitriol.

keg in kc 09-17-2019 12:37 AM
This has evidently been running on the discovery channel for a month. I haven't seen it, but it looks...suspect to me.

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WhiteWhale 09-17-2019 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14452259)
Dan Akyroyd was on Rogan last week. Didn't realize he was such an ET guy. Good listen.
It was hard to take him seriously after he was like "No, John Edwards is real!"

ROFL

Yeah man, Dan is a complete nut.

WhiteWhale 09-17-2019 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14452373)
Yeah, that was almost unwatchable.
Do not trust Netflix documentaries.

Ever.

The amount of cherry picking and ignored evidence in every single one is astounding. IT's all narrative.

O.city 09-17-2019 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14455003)
It was hard to take him seriously after he was like "No, John Edwards is real!"

ROFL

Yeah man, Dan is a complete nut.
I don't know who John Edwards is? I haven't listened to the whole thing yet

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-17-2019 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14453252)
No question there.

I have a real difficulty with people trying to drag church into the state, so to speak. They're ****ing with the foundation of the country, both constitutionally and historically, no matter how much they want to rationalize to themselves and everyone else with the whole "this has always been a Christian nation!" bullshit.

No. It has not. This has been a "Christian nation" since the 1950s when they propped up Communism as this Godless Atheist threat to everything good and Christian, and forced "God" into the pledge and onto money and into every other nook and cranny they could find. It's social engineering built on fear.

And it's, of course, the exact same thing they're doing right now with "Global warming isn't real/Science is bad!" "Don't vote for them, they're all socialists!" and that favorite old ditty "They want to take our guns!"

And that fear mongering works really great with a certain segment of the population, enough to get a president elected with a platform that amounts to little more than fear and vitriol.
Oh boo ****ing hoo. And not every founding father of this nation was Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson.

WhiteWhale 09-17-2019 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14455017)
I don't know who John Edwards is? I haven't listened to the whole thing yet
A TV psychic.

It's a fun podcast. I think there's even a part where he goes into how obviously bigfoot is real.

It's great. He's nuts, but it's fun.

O.city 09-17-2019 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14455095)
A TV psychic.

It's a fun podcast. I think there's even a part where he goes into how obviously bigfoot is real.

It's great. He's nuts, but it's fun.
Ah damn, ok.

It was a fun pod from what I heard though.

keg in kc 09-17-2019 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14455065)
Oh boo ****ing hoo. And not every founding father of this nation was Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson.
I'm not getting into this any further. Said my piece, think it's enough to get my point across and I don't want this thing devolving into a DC thread. Just in general I try to avoid the topics of politics and religion, because I think nowadays it's next to impossible to have a civilized discussion about either one and I apologize if I violated anybody's sensibilities with my comments.

WhiteWhale 09-17-2019 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14455252)
Ah damn, ok.

It was a fun pod from what I heard though.
It is.

Man I spent years listening to Art Bell. I love this shit. I think it's nuttier than a squirrel turd, but it's amusing to me.

keg in kc 09-17-2019 12:46 PM
Art Bell was the best. And he did it without really interjecting himself or his own opinions into the broadcast. He'd put, literally, anybody on the air and just keep handing them more and more rope.

That's why, for me, Coast to Coast doesn't work with George Noory. He's too invested personally. And yeah, he's pretty dull to listen to, but it's just too much about pushing stuff he believes in instead of just getting weird ideas and stories out there for their own sake.

But nobody does it like Art did, and probably nobody ever will.

Rausch 09-18-2019 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14414359)
Guys, that stuff creeps me out. I don't like to really read into it. I'll stick to aliens and shit.
And on that topic...

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neech 09-18-2019 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14455616)
I'm not getting into this any further. Said my piece, think it's enough to get my point across and I don't want this thing devolving into a DC thread. Just in general I try to avoid the topics of politics and religion, because I think nowadays it's next to impossible to have a civilized discussion about either one and I apologize if I violated anybody's sensibilities with my comments.
I guess you didn't avoid the subjects hard enough.

keg in kc 09-18-2019 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by neech (Post 14458104)
I guess you didn't avoid the subjects hard enough.
Yeah boy, one whole post in a 1000+ plus post thread. And maybe one post on the DC forum in the last ten years. Really hammering that political and/or religious stuff, I am.

keg in kc 09-18-2019 02:12 PM
So to get back on topic, anybody remember Oumuamua from a couple years ago? There is another. This one was discovered by an amateur astronomer at the end of August, hit the news cycle late last week.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/598204/

https://gizmodo.com/how-does-the-new...1838184020/amp

https://www.universetoday.com/143399...19-q4-borisov/

This is kind of feeling like rendezvous with rama come to life.

BigCatDaddy 09-18-2019 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14455616)
I'm not getting into this any further. Said my piece, think it's enough to get my point across and I don't want this thing devolving into a DC thread. Just in general I try to avoid the topics of politics and religion, because I think nowadays it's next to impossible to have a civilized discussion about either one and I apologize if I violated anybody's sensibilities with my comments.
LMAO Yeah you sounded real reasonable and logical with that crazed rant.

Baby Lee 09-18-2019 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14458476)
Yeah boy, one whole post in a 1000+ plus post thread. And maybe one post on the DC forum in the last ten years. Really hammering that political and/or religious stuff, I am.
You got your money's worth. . .

Sorry 09-18-2019 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14458518)
So to get back on topic, anybody remember Oumuamua from a couple years ago? There is another. This one was discovered by an amateur astronomer at the end of August, hit the news cycle late last week.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/598204/

https://gizmodo.com/how-does-the-new...1838184020/amp

https://www.universetoday.com/143399...19-q4-borisov/

This is kind of feeling like rendezvous with rama come to life.
Nothing burger

ToxSocks 09-18-2019 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14458518)
So to get back on topic, anybody remember Oumuamua from a couple years ago? There is another. This one was discovered by an amateur astronomer at the end of August, hit the news cycle late last week.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/598204/

https://gizmodo.com/how-does-the-new...1838184020/amp

https://www.universetoday.com/143399...19-q4-borisov/

This is kind of feeling like rendezvous with rama come to life.
I'm thinking it's Pat Mahomes' REAL parents coming back to bring their son home after the SB. He was sent here from another planet to save our Chiefs.

Once he's accomplished his mission don't be surprised if he's teleported right off the field.

keg in kc 09-18-2019 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14458576)
You got your money's worth. . .
It's been interesting, that's for sure. I mean, I thought it'd be kind of obvious I'm done talking about it, and I even apologized, which is about as much of a make good as I can do on a forum, but they just can't seem to let it go. And that's fine. It's not like I'm obligated to keep responding

keg in kc 09-18-2019 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14458690)
Nothing burger
Yeah it might be. Just because we hadn't seen something before doesn't mean it's actually rare or even unusual. We may just have finally reached a point where we could detect these interstellar objects, and now we'll find them all over

Sorry 09-18-2019 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14458746)
Yeah it might be. Just because we hadn't seen something before doesn't mean it's actually rare or even unusual. We may just have finally reached a point where we could detect these interstellar objects, and now we'll find them all over
Which would be cool. I love the Galaxy/universe topic. The older one gets, you grasp how much we still haven't grasped and how i sane this world is lol

keg in kc 09-18-2019 04:24 PM
Here's something I never thought I'd see: the Navy officially validating the videos that Lou Elizondo released and, further, acknowledging that they are unidentified aerial phenomena: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...rial-phenomena

Megatron96 09-18-2019 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14458518)
So to get back on topic, anybody remember Oumuamua from a couple years ago? There is another. This one was discovered by an amateur astronomer at the end of August, hit the news cycle late last week.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/598204/

https://gizmodo.com/how-does-the-new...1838184020/amp

https://www.universetoday.com/143399...19-q4-borisov/

This is kind of feeling like rendezvous with rama come to life.
Thanks. I'm fascinated by these interstellar visitors.

Easy 6 09-18-2019 04:56 PM
Yeah I almost chimed in after that post, keg

But figured you would let it drop, just wish I had the ability to put a dent in those thoughts... as it stands you’ve got us all lumped into a box that doesn’t fit at all

Anyhoo, how about the Navy coming right out and saying those F18 pilot videos are real and they can’t explain them?

Aircraft under intelligent control exceeding anything humans are capable of producing, hmmm... to quote Giorgio Tsoukalos, “it was aliens”

Megatron96 09-18-2019 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14458939)

Anyhoo, how about the Navy coming right out and saying those F18 pilot videos are real and they can’t explain them?

Aircraft under intelligent control exceeding anything humans are capable of producing, hmmm... to quote Giorgio Tsoukalos, “it was aliens”
What's crazy is how many people still don't want to accept that those videos are legitimate. I've heard everything from "they're hoaxes," to "they're just issues with the cameras." As if they were posted by some amateur with a phone cam, and not the U.S. Navy and DoD.

ToxSocks 09-18-2019 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14458939)

Anyhoo, how about the Navy coming right out and saying those F18 pilot videos are real and they can’t explain them?
I was waiting for someone to mention that. It's why i clicked on the thread today actually.

Megatron96 09-18-2019 05:35 PM
Honestly, I don't think the Navy had much choice. Think about it: they had more than a half-a-dozen Navy fighter pilots come out and say that they not only saw these things with their eyes, but also that at least one if not two or three separate sensor systems aboard some of the most advanced fighter planes in the world also recorded these objects under basically perfect atmospheric conditions.

What were they going to say? That their own pilots, some of whom are still flying for the Navy, are seeing things while protecting our skies? That our best most highly trained pilots are incapable of discerning the difference between a weather balloon and a UAP?

Easy 6 09-18-2019 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14458967)
What's crazy is how many people still don't want to accept that those videos are legitimate. I've heard everything from "they're hoaxes," to "they're just issues with the cameras." As if they were posted by some amateur with a phone cam, and not the U.S. Navy and DoD.
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14459021)
I was waiting for someone to mention that. It's why i clicked on the thread today actually.
It simply cannot be explained away with conventional excuses anymore

The cameras got it, the pilots witnessed it, physical object confirmed by state of the art radar doing things mankind is currently incapable of...it’s great of the Navy to be this open, let’s hope it leads to more truths

keg in kc 09-18-2019 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14458967)
What's crazy is how many people still don't want to accept that those videos are legitimate. I've heard everything from "they're hoaxes," to "they're just issues with the cameras." As if they were posted by some amateur with a phone cam, and not the U.S. Navy and DoD.
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14459021)
I was waiting for someone to mention that. It's why i clicked on the thread today actually.
Naw, what's crazy is you guys quotin' him when I posted it a couple posts above him!

Bowser 09-18-2019 07:56 PM
I guess you would label this one as "esoteric", maybe? Stumbled on to this vid a day or so ago. It's a doc on the German brothers that designed a stealth bomber for the Nazis at the end of the war. Pretty interesting stuff, especially how NASA scientists still to this day study the design to understand propulsion (and how they got it back in the day with this design)….

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keg in kc 09-18-2019 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14458939)
Yeah I almost chimed in after that post, keg

But figured you would let it drop, just wish I had the ability to put a dent in those thoughts... as it stands you’ve got us all lumped into a box that doesn’t fit at all
Okay, this is absolutely, unequivocally, the last comment I am ever going to make on any of this. And I do it only because I don't want you to have the wrong idea.

I was referring only to a very specific subset of far right evangelicals. I was not referring to Christians as a group. I would never refer to Christians as a group. My parents are Christians, one Methodist and the other Catholic, and neither one of them falls anywhere close to the category of folks I was referring to, nor have they ever expressed the kind of beliefs that I mentioned. And I assume that's true for about 99.999% of Christians in the US.

As a whole, my opinion on religion is basically that I don't have an opinion. Whatever you or anybody chooses to believe, it's none of my business. At all.

That is all.

keg in kc 09-18-2019 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14459402)
I guess you would label this one as "esoteric", maybe? Stumbled on to this vid a day or so ago. It's a doc on the German brothers that designed a stealth bomber for the Nazis at the end of the war. Pretty interesting stuff, especially how NASA scientists still to this day study the design to understand propulsion (and how they got it back in the day with this design)….

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sKo4EMIU7g4" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
The Hortens, I assume?

You can really get yourself into a pretty cool rabbit hole looking into Nazis, including some really weird occult stuff. Joseph P. Farrell has a whole bunch of really cool-sounding books that I keep meaning to look into but never do. But if you can find any interviews with him, he can really talk about some wild stuff.

Megatron96 09-18-2019 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14459320)
Naw, what's crazy is you guys quotin' him when I posted it a couple posts above him!
Did I break some unwritten rule about who I can quote? I literally just picked the one closest to the bottom.

keg in kc 09-18-2019 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14459421)
Did I break some unwritten rule about who I can quote? I literally just picked the one closest to the bottom.
Nah, I was just being weird.

Megatron96 09-18-2019 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14459430)
Nah, I was just being weird.
Rgr. My "weird" app is on the fritz.

listopencil 09-24-2019 01:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HPm9fr2.gif

O.city 10-01-2019 11:47 AM
Anyone else see the NASA guy talking about us finding life on Mars and the people here on earth not being able to deal with it?

Easy 6 10-01-2019 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14492975)
Anyone else see the NASA guy talking about us finding life on Mars and the people here on earth not being able to deal with it?
Haven’t seen that, but it’s absolutely the rationale they use to justify hiding the truth... “people will lose faith in governmental/religious institutions and we’ll slide into total chaos”

O.city 10-02-2019 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14493043)
Haven’t seen that, but it’s absolutely the rationale they use to justify hiding the truth... “people will lose faith in governmental/religious institutions and we’ll slide into total chaos”
Yeah, I'm not sure they're wrong on that either.

Interesting stuff though for sure.

ToxSocks 10-02-2019 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14494594)
Yeah, I'm not sure they're wrong on that either.

Interesting stuff though for sure.
I highly doubt there'd be panic. There'd be far more curiosity, and sure, some who are scared shitless because "monsters". We're a fairly desensitized people and strong in our beliefs.

For the religious it's easy: "They too are God's creation". The existence of Aliens means nothing other than the discovery of another of God's creatures.

And who the hell really has faith in our government institutions as it is?

O.city 10-02-2019 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14494623)
I highly doubt there'd be panic. There'd be far more curiosity, and sure, some who are scared shitless because "monsters". We're a fairly desensitized people and strong in our beliefs.

For the religious it's easy: "They too are God's creation". The existence of Aliens means nothing other than the discovery of another of God's creatures.

And who the hell really has faith in our government institutions as it is?
I don't know, it would be interesting to see how that played out.

Sorry 10-02-2019 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14494623)
I highly doubt there'd be panic. There'd be far more curiosity, and sure, some who are scared shitless because "monsters". We're a fairly desensitized people and strong in our beliefs.

For the religious it's easy: "They too are God's creation". The existence of Aliens means nothing other than the discovery of another of God's creatures.

And who the hell really has faith in our government institutions as it is?
And for me, i'd agree. Us potentially finding life changes nothing on our earth, only opens up more questions and curiosity or we could truly just be alone in this galaxy.

MTG#10 10-02-2019 04:06 PM
I dont believe in supernatural stuff but this is still very strange. Last night I heard something fall and hit the ground, pretty loud but I was too tired to get up to investigate. It sounded like it came from the master bath, and in my semi-consciousness I attributed it to just a shampoo bottle or something falling in the tub.

When I woke up this morning, I found that it was a picture of my grandma that had fallen off the hallway wall by my bedroom. No more than 15 minutes later my cousin called me and said she passed sometime last night in her sleep. My aunt found her this morning when she went in to wake her up to take her for her dialysis.

:(

ToxSocks 10-02-2019 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 14495546)
I dont believe in supernatural stuff but this is still very strange. Last night I heard something fall and hit the ground, pretty loud but I was too tired to get up to investigate. It sounded like it came from the master bath, and in my semi-consciousness I attributed it to just a shampoo bottle or something falling in the tub.

When I woke up this morning, I found that it was a picture of my grandma that had fallen off the hallway wall by my bedroom. No more than 15 minutes later my cousin called me and said she passed sometime last night in her sleep. My aunt found her this morning when she went in to wake her up to take her for her dialysis.

:(
Trippy...

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-02-2019 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 14495546)
I dont believe in supernatural stuff but this is still very strange. Last night I heard something fall and hit the ground, pretty loud but I was too tired to get up to investigate. It sounded like it came from the master bath, and in my semi-consciousness I attributed it to just a shampoo bottle or something falling in the tub.

When I woke up this morning, I found that it was a picture of my grandma that had fallen off the hallway wall by my bedroom. No more than 15 minutes later my cousin called me and said she passed sometime last night in her sleep. My aunt found her this morning when she went in to wake her up to take her for her dialysis.

:(
I had Life on Mars stuck in my head one evening for some reason. 99.999% sure I didn't hear it anywhere. Just popped into my head. Woke up the next morning to find out David Bowie had passed away.

Easy 6 10-02-2019 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 14495546)
I dont believe in supernatural stuff but this is still very strange. Last night I heard something fall and hit the ground, pretty loud but I was too tired to get up to investigate. It sounded like it came from the master bath, and in my semi-consciousness I attributed it to just a shampoo bottle or something falling in the tub.

When I woke up this morning, I found that it was a picture of my grandma that had fallen off the hallway wall by my bedroom. No more than 15 minutes later my cousin called me and said she passed sometime last night in her sleep. My aunt found her this morning when she went in to wake her up to take her for her dialysis.

:(
Our souls go on when the body dies, sounds like Grandma just wanted to let you know... I’d be happy about it

Sorry 10-02-2019 07:25 PM
So sorry for your loss MTG.

I believe in the supernatural. Hell I think humans are super natural Ina way.

What are your thoughts on SYNCHRONICITY?

I've experienced it enough to make me believe in something quaky is going on.

WhiteWhale 10-02-2019 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14494623)
I highly doubt there'd be panic. There'd be far more curiosity, and sure, some who are scared shitless because "monsters". We're a fairly desensitized people and strong in our beliefs.

For the religious it's easy: "They too are God's creation". The existence of Aliens means nothing other than the discovery of another of God's creatures.

And who the hell really has faith in our government institutions as it is?
Humanity is KIND Of the center of god's universe in the bible.

Some of the most religious people I know are VERY dogmatic in their belief that no aliens can exist because they're not in the bible.

I think 'the religious' can be a WIDE swath of people with widely varying beliefs not easily lumped into one category. A lot of them would probably just assume some government conspiracy.

Though I would like to see them land on Sentinal Island just for the lulz.

O.city 10-03-2019 08:07 AM
Yeah, I don't really see how they could coexist but who knows how people's minds work.

ThaVirus 10-03-2019 10:25 AM
Cognitive dissonance would take care of that

Pitt Gorilla 10-03-2019 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14495860)
Humanity is KIND Of the center of god's universe in the bible.

Some of the most religious people I know are VERY dogmatic in their belief that no aliens can exist because they're not in the bible.

I think 'the religious' can be a WIDE swath of people with widely varying beliefs not easily lumped into one category. A lot of them would probably just assume some government conspiracy.

Though I would like to see them land on Sentinal Island just for the lulz.
People compartmentalize crap all the time to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Knowledge of aliens wouldn't impact religious folks any more than other scientific discovery.

Easy 6 10-03-2019 05:05 PM
There is no cognitive dissonance

What a bunch of smug know it alls, none of you know a damn thing more than anyone else... this is supposed to be a thread about the paranormal, not a chance for armchair psychiatrists to pontificate

ThaVirus 10-03-2019 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14497001)
There is no cognitive dissonance

What a bunch of smug know it alls, none of you know a damn thing more than anyone else... this is supposed to be a thread about the paranormal, not a chance for armchair psychiatrists to pontificate
Why are you so upset? Religious people legitimately pick and choose which parts of their holy book to live by with no issue whatsoever. The vast majority of them will find any way to continue believing in their deity regardless of any outside information they're presented.

ThaVirus 10-03-2019 05:54 PM
And cognitive dissonance isn't even a strictly religious-person phenomenon lol

Hoopsdoc 10-03-2019 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14497074)
Why are you so upset? Religious people legitimately pick and choose which parts of their holy book to live by with no issue whatsoever. The vast majority of them will find any way to continue believing in their deity regardless of any outside information they're presented.
Their certainly are religious folks who are guilty of that, but it’s quite unfair to label all as such.

Also, this thread rocks.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-03-2019 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 14497345)
Their certainly are religious folks who are guilty of that, but it’s quite unfair to label all as such.

Also, this thread rocks.
I like the labeling. It helps me identify the idiots much quicker in life.

Easy 6 10-04-2019 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14497074)
Why are you so upset? Religious people legitimately pick and choose which parts of their holy book to live by with no issue whatsoever. The vast majority of them will find any way to continue believing in their deity regardless of any outside information they're presented.
What information are they being presented that should change their mind?

ThaVirus 10-04-2019 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14498012)
What information are they being presented that should change their mind?
I never said any info should change their mind.

I don't care what anyone believes as long as it isn't hateful or hurtful.

stumppy 10-04-2019 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14496649)
People compartmentalize crap all the time to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Knowledge of aliens wouldn't impact religious folks any more than other scientific discovery since the earth was created, 6000 years ago.

FYP

:D

keg in kc 10-05-2019 09:58 AM
I missed it if anyone has mentioned it, but this whole societal/religious impact question is connected to a NASA commissioned report by the Brookings Institute in the 60's. This report was submitted to the House and some conspracists believe it's impacted policy in the extraterrestrial sphere for the last half century.

Bowser 10-05-2019 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14125578)
If you guys want a good heapin' helpin' of Conspiracy, the Paranormal, the Unexplained and the Esoteric all rolled into one, go look for the movie Above Majestic. That is your one stop shopping for all of the above.
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14275213)
Saturn is the last planet in the chain...hence it's rings. It's the reason the number 7 is prominent in modern religion. It's also part of the vital electro-magnetic impulses the govern our microcosm. The Sun and Saturn are like the (+) and (-) terminals on a car battery..and complete a circuit. These circuits are everywhere in life...it's just on a bigger scale.

Egyptian masters were well aware of this....as the Pyramids were strategically placed on earths magnetic lay lines...and above an aquifer to amplify these frequencies. They are glorified antennas...

What ever they were were...they were not like us...they essentially created our modern technology....from agriculture, astronomy, architecture...to geometry. Google "Baghdad battery"...they knew of electrical forces at play...They had a fully realized culture seemly out of nowhere.

The Sphinx has been digitally tested to be 20,000+ years old....Christian establishment isn't about to let that seep into main-stream consciousness. Keeping people scared, controlled and ignorant is quite profitable.

Th Egyptians were VERY adamant about the importance of the arrangement of the cosmos...and its governing principles. We've been sold it's random...it isn't. It's deliberate order...and they knew it....down to the atom and beyond.

There is one thing...and that's it. We are just small, animated, components of it...."it knows if you've been sleeping, it knows if you're awake...it knows it you've been bad or good.....or karma will wreck your shit".
So I was browsing back on this thread when I stumbled on to BlackOp's post and it made me think of my question that nobody bit on. I just watched it again last week, and while I'm not buying everything they're selling (especially the space part, you'll see), it DOES make you think. Check it out (and get comfy, it's over 2 hours long)….

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hwn9f7ETPzI" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DISCLAIMER - they do touch on political elements at certain parts in the doc, but it's not a political documentary

Megatron96 10-05-2019 01:41 PM
No disrespect, but what is a "conspracists ?" I have a degree in English Lit. and I have no idea what this word is.

keg in kc 10-05-2019 02:18 PM
It's what happens when I'm thumbing 'conspiracists' on my phone and miss an 'i'.

Megatron96 10-05-2019 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14500395)
It's what happens when I'm thumbing 'conspiracists' on my phone and miss an 'i'.
Ah, gotcha. Thought it might be a new made-up text word.

Megatron96 10-05-2019 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14492975)
Anyone else see the NASA guy talking about us finding life on Mars and the people here on earth not being able to deal with it?
Not yet.

I did see the picture someone posted of what looks a bit like a lizard supposedly on the surface of Mars. Is that what we're talking about?

keg in kc 10-05-2019 03:47 PM
Do you mean the scientist working on the Viking lander in the 70s who said he found evidence of life? Or something more recent? I remember hearing a story about evidence from a gas chromatograph or something like that.

There's also long been stories that they apply color filters to any imagery there, to make the atmosphere and surface seem more red than it actually is.

NASA doctoring photo and video to hide strange things is a whole conspiracy rabbit hole of its own.

O.city 10-07-2019 11:12 AM
One of the Navy pilots was on Rogan the other day. Pretty cool interview.

Dude saw something, for sure.

Mr. Plow 10-07-2019 11:19 AM
Just tagging to follow the thread. Interesting stuff in here.

Buehler445 10-08-2019 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14507645)
One of the Navy pilots was on Rogan the other day. Pretty cool interview.

Dude saw something, for sure.
Which one?

O.city 10-08-2019 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14509850)
Which one?
David Fravor

Buehler445 10-08-2019 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14509891)
David Fravor
Right on. Thanks.

Fish 10-08-2019 02:58 PM
His nickname is "Sex." Seriously...

Megatron96 10-08-2019 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14509986)
His nickname is "Sex." Seriously...
Are we talking about his callsign?

srvy 10-08-2019 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14509891)
David Fravor
Is this the black disk emerged from the depths and swallowed a torpedo while tic tacs flew above the surface of the water?


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