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New World Order 09-13-2019 01:30 PM

Even if we acquire him that likely leaves Breeland on Gordon and Fuller on AB on the outside.

Ugly.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14445208)
If they plan on releasing him this offseason it's very possible.

They’d have to give Fuller a contract. Pure fantasy and not the football kind.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14445220)
Even if we acquire him that likely leaves Breeland on Gordon and Fuller on AB on the outside.

Ugly.

Might as well give up!

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14445220)
Even if we acquire him that likely leaves Breeland on Gordon and Fuller on AB on the outside.

Ugly.

breeland matches up on gordon decently, no one matches up well on ab so..

New World Order 09-13-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 14445236)
breeland matches up on gordon decently, no one matches up well on ab so..

Yeah I guess that's not as bad as it sounds.

Still would rather blow my load and go all in with a guy like PP, but that really may not be possible.

Whatever. I just hope we try something.

BossChief 09-13-2019 01:50 PM

Interesting that a lot more of you aren’t open to trading our first for him.

1) he’s a super cheap player at a position of need that has proven the ability to be extremely effective at multiple positions.

2) our first rounder will be a bottom pick in the first.

3) we would have him for 4 cost controlled years.

4) trading for MF would give KC the cap space to also keep Chris Jones long term while trading for an established veteran would make that negotiation more difficult (but still possible).

....

I just don’t see any reasoning of why we wouldn’t be willing to trade a first for him.

Give me the logic behind not trading a first for him.

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14445259)
Interesting that a lot more of you aren’t open to trading our first for him.

1) he’s a super cheap player at a position of need that has proven the ability to be extremely effective at multiple positions.

2) our first rounder will be a bottom pick in the first.

3) we would have him for 4 cost controlled years.

4) trading for MF would give KC the cap space to also keep Chris Jones long term while trading for an established veteran would make that negotiation more difficult (but still possible).

....

I just don’t see any reasoning of why we wouldn’t be willing to trade a first for him.

Give me the logic behind not trading a first for him.

I was against a first initially but after a little research im alot more open to it. Im not really interested in a first plus, but just our 32 pick and i could live with it.

KChiefs1 09-13-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14445259)
Interesting that a lot more of you aren’t open to trading our first for him.

1) he’s a super cheap player at a position of need that has proven the ability to be extremely effective at multiple positions.

2) our first rounder will be a bottom pick in the first.

3) we would have him for 4 cost controlled years.

4) trading for MF would give KC the cap space to also keep Chris Jones long term while trading for an established veteran would make that negotiation more difficult (but still possible).

....

I just don’t see any reasoning of why we wouldn’t be willing to trade a first for him.

Give me the logic behind not trading a first for him.



More than likely that pick would be used on a CB too. Is MF worth the 32nd pick?

Jerok 09-13-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14445317)
More than likely that pick would be used on a CB too. Is MF worth the 32nd pick?

He went 11th overall. Losing 1 year of control, but with most of the contract already paid, is a solid deal for a 29 thru 32 pick.

Many first rounders are busts. He is not, based on his rookie year he can be really good or even great. It's definitely worth our first.

Mecca 09-13-2019 02:10 PM

I don't know if a 1 is that bad here, I'm normally against that but if we're going to be picking in that 30-32 type range, dude is 22.

He's very cheap and controlled, something we do need.

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 02:13 PM

Also to be noted, his initials are MF!

Mecca 09-13-2019 02:23 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/miamidolphi...is_worst_game/

Watch that video, a ton of that is really awful coaching and scheme design, I see why people think they are taking on purpose.

Quick tell me it's a good idea to think Fitzpatrick can literally turn and run with Marquis Brown in man with no safety help, yes that's all on Minkah right?

The Franchise 09-13-2019 02:23 PM

It’d be nice to have Fitzpatrick and our 1st so that we could have the 5th year option for who we draft.

JakeF 09-13-2019 02:34 PM

You can never have too many guys that can handle that slot. They have to be quick enough cover/cut both directions because they don't have the sideline protecting one direction. They have to be smart enough to read the entire play because they are so close offensive line. I don't know if Fitzpatrick is worth a 1st but he's certainly worth a 2nd.

BossChief 09-13-2019 02:40 PM

Let’s do this analytically.

The 11th pick (where MF was picked) is worth 1250 points.

1/4 years of his rookie deal are already used, so let’s subtract 25% of that value. That leaves him (purely as a prospect) worth 937.50 draft value points.

That puts that draft pick equivalent at pick 17...not even factoring in that the pick was a huge hit.

Giving up pick 32 should be an absolute no brainer.


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