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The Franchise 04-02-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533287)
Yeah, he was actually a really good tackle at times at Illinois. I think he'd be a better backup/swing tackle if we had a better LG on the roster...

Doesn't matter....Hudson and Allen will be gone when their contracts are up.

duncan_idaho 04-02-2014 09:38 AM

My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


Sfeihc 04-02-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10533941)
My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


Whoa! I don't know even where to begin with this.

Sfeihc 04-02-2014 09:44 AM

Okay, with a minute to collect my thoughts I must ask you do know April Fool's was yesterday, right?

The Franchise 04-02-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10533941)
My mock draft has started. From that thread:

Chiefs select LG Xavier Su'A Filo (traded up to 16 to get him). "Article" I posted as it happened.


Building for the future
Chiefs revisit storied past with present pick

Kansas City - With its first pick in the NFL draft, the Chiefs once again dipped into a well that has produced unmatched success for the Kansas City franchise. No stranger to highly powered offenses built around a dominant offensive line, the Chiefs selected star UCLA LG Xavier Su'A Filo with their first pick in the NFL draft.

General Manager John Dorsey could barely contain his glee at landing the talented offensive lineman: "Look, we know that you win with the guys up front. This is a formula that has been successful in KC. Pick the best player available. That's almost always going to be an offensive lineman. And when it isn't, it likely will be a defensive lineman. Skill players are great, but they're NOTHING compared to an OL.

"I mean, look at the history of this franchise. It has had a lot of success over the past 25 years, and that has always started up front. You don't win the most games in a decade with a formula that doesn't work."

With the selection of Su'a Filo, in addition to the selection of Eric Fisher with the first overall pick in last year's draft, the Chiefs are going back to a strategy that has kept the Arrowhead Stadium parking lot full of happy tailgaters year after year: Build a strong OL. Be respectable every year. See what happens in the playoffs.

"With Xavi and Eric, we have the makings of the best OL in NFL history," Dorsey said. "And that's how you win. Skill position players are nothing unless you have the right resources dedicated to building your OL. And everyone knows you can't build an elite OL without filling it with first-round picks."


If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

planetdoc 04-02-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10533287)
Yeah, he was actually a really good tackle at times at Illinois. I think he'd be a better backup/swing tackle if we had a better LG on the roster...

If he is not capable of playing in a phone booth (guard), than how can he play outside in the nfl?

I think another part of his problem is that Allen, Asamoah, and Hudson were drafted for the ZBS. They were drafted for their quickness.

Reid instituted a man heavy scheme. When the line switched back to a ZBS midway though the season, than the line improved.

Frosty 04-02-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10533977)
If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10518803)
I'm picking for the Chiefs in a mock on another site I frequent.

Just completed a trade-up with the Dallas owner there.

Chiefs get: No. 16

Cowboys get: 1st, 4th and 2nd 6th (200) from KC

Xavier sua'Filo now guaranteed to be a Chief in that mock.

I will also be mocking the best available OL or DL to the Chiefs with every pick in that draft. :D

:)

Direckshun 04-02-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 10533958)
Okay, with a minute to collect my thoughts I must ask you do know April Fool's was yesterday, right?

Well done, sir.

planetdoc 04-02-2014 11:42 AM

in regards to Jeff Allen

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Originally Posted by allen april 2 2014
"We had a good year, but it didn't end the way that we wanted it to," Allen admitted. "Even if we'd won that game, we'd have been hurting going into the next one."

Still, Allen insisted that he and his teammates had started 2014 "hungry," "humble" and ready to make another run this coming season. He has been exercising twice a day - lifting, running, doing position work. The Chiefs' offensive guard was also fresh off AdvoCare's "24-day challenge," a 10-day cleanse followed by a diet of meat, fruits and veggies (and a minimum of carbs).

"I lost, like, 7 pounds," Allen said. "I'm working on changing my body composition." The goal: Get ripped and become a better football player. "If you aren't doing the things to get better, you're going to get replaced."


Saccopoo 04-02-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10534286)

Allen has always had a very good attitude towards the game.

I think he got caught in-between a scheme change and tried to do the quickest thing possible in an attempt to be effective in Reid's offensive plan, which was to gain weight to be more productive in a power type scheme.

Allen has the tools and the attitude. Let's see if a year in the system and a full off-season of knowing what he needs to do allows him to be more effective as a player.

I think that the offensive line is going to surprise people this coming season.

planetdoc 04-03-2014 08:19 AM

I think that was likely the case. He got fat and lost his quickness. by the way, I tried to do a google image search of jeff, and this was one of the first that came up.

http://www.pond-photography.com/2013...-jeff-marissa/

kinda cool to have engagement photos on the 50 at arrowhead.

The Franchise 04-03-2014 10:02 AM

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks 13h

I haven't talked to one scout/exec that would take David Yankey in the first 3 rounds.

duncan_idaho 04-03-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10533977)
If you're being serious.....then go **** yourself.

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Incredibly sarcastic. I'm using this entire mock draft to mock the Chiefs. It's flying over the head of most of the guys on there.

Trying to prep my round 3 pick (Pick must be either an OL or DL/OLB) ...

Brandon Turner (OG, Clemson)?
Joel Bitonio (OT, Nevada)?
Trent Murphy (OLB, Stanford)?

I think I'm going to go with Turner.

RealSNR 04-03-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10534286)

That's fantastic news. It makes me think that the Chiefs really aren't too incredibly concerned with the RG spot, and that Rishaw Johnson will be the starter next year.

I know that Jeff Linkenbach came so cheaply that they could possibly have brought him aboard as competition for Johnson at the backup, while the high pick G takes the starter spot, but I just can't buy that Dorsey is as thick-headed as Andy Reid is when it comes to the offensive line.

Dorsey has tried to fix the Packers' tackle situation with first rounders in Bulaga and Sherrod in consecutive years. He's rotated in veterans that were long ago acquired by the team (TJ Lang, Jason Spitz, Josh Sitton) with young players acquired through the middle rounds of the draft (Evan Dietrich-Smith, Marshall Newhouse). Two of those depth players (Lang, Dietrich-Smith) were promoted to starter after Dorsey left and played phenomenally.

Dorsey has final say. I have a hard time thinking he'll go guard. I don't think he will.

OldSchool 04-03-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10537342)
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Incredibly sarcastic. I'm using this entire mock draft to mock the Chiefs. It's flying over the head of most of the guys on there.

Trying to prep my round 3 pick (Pick must be either an OL or DL/OLB) ...

Brandon Turner (OG, Clemson)?
Joel Bitonio (OT, Nevada)?
Trent Murphy (OLB, Stanford)?

I think I'm going to go with Turner.

You mean Brandon Thomas?


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