Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578729)

You advocate drafting a RT, LG, C, WR, ILB, or a CB at 1.1?

I'm just trying to make sure you're really this dumb. I want to get this right.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578716)

It was a ****ing fallacy, you moron. For reasons I've already ****ing explained.

A: Drafting a QB in the first round is the most likely way to find a franchise starter. We haven't done so in 30 years. Maybe we should change that.
B: You also haven't vacated all your draft picks. Do you want to change to that strategy?

That's what he ****ing said, right? That's a fallacy. It's the exact same thing as:

A: All my friends built successful football teams by drafting a QB in the first round.
B: If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578727)

For someone who says you don't NEED a first round QB to be succesful, it's a little ironic that same person says you need to spend the first overall pick on a LG or C, or for that matter a CB when we just signed 2 in free agency to start, or a 34 ILB.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578729)

You advocate drafting a RT, LG, C, WR, ILB, or a CB at 1.1?

I'm just trying to make sure you're really this dumb. I want to get this right.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578735)

In a draft thats extremely deep at those exact positions, that wouldn't be the best idea.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578748)

The 1st round is the best place to find a franchise QB. It isn't the only place, as it's not the only place to find a franchise anything. But the percentages are better, as better players are generally taken there.


The Chiefs picked a shit year to be there at the top, when there isn't an elite guy at any spot there. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9578720)

God, you couldn't be more wrong.

In our style of a 3-4, we don't need another pass rusher, we have plenty. Tamba Hali and Justin Houston really are all the pass rushers we need. DE's in our style of a 3-4 are less about pass rushing technique and more about a bull rush/run stopping approach. So saying we need a pass rusher, or that the only thing that could make this team better is a pass rusher, is stupid. That just adds depth.

We could immediately use:

1. RT
2. LG
3. Center

Positions that Joeckel, Fisher, and/or Warmack could fill immediately. And saying the 1.1 isn't going to make a difference in his rookie year is the most idiotic thing I've heard in quite a long time, our 1.1 will be an immediate starter on this team. If that isn't "making a difference" I don't know what is.

We could also immediately use:

1. Wide Receiver
2. Inside Linebacker
3. Cornerback

Guys like Patterson, Austin, Te'o, Milliner, Rhodes, and Ogletree.


If we could ask for a best case scenario, its going to be trading back with the Bills, Jets, or whomever into the 8-17 range, and picking up an extra pick or two.

Drafting Geno smith would be a major setback to this regime.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578753)

So in this thread, you aren't advocating drafting any of these guys?

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9578746)

Really? I said we need to spend the first overall pick on those positions?

Quote me saying that.

I merely pointed out that we have positions of need that would immediately impact this team as a starter, over selecting a QB who at best, is your #3 QB this year.



No, I am not advocating that. I never once stated that the selection would be based on the 1.1.

Again, try a little reading comprehension and stop making assumptions.



According to whom?

Deep as in plenty of future talent? Or deep as in plenty of starter talent?

As it sits right now, there's probably 3 starting corners and 2 starting 3-4 ILB's in this draft.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9578729)

You advocate drafting a RT, LG, C, WR, ILB, or a CB at 1.1?

I'm just trying to make sure you're really this dumb. I want to get this right.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578760)

You list Teo as a starting 34 ILB, when thats not even what he fits into. There are about 5 34 ILB prospects that will be available in the 3 round who could start immediately.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578763)

So I just quoted you saying that and you verified that yes, you would draft any of those guys at 1. Guys who would play RT, LG, C, #4 CB, #3 WR for us.

Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9578767)

He could immediately plug into our defense and replace belcher at belcher's level of play. Whether that he's natural fitment or not, make no difference.

Also, I don't see 5 ILB's available in round 3 that could start for us immediately.

Please name them.

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9578764)

How dare you question the PhD mechanic! Don't you know that all his hours for his ASE cert make him an expert in everything?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9578768)

And with the universal ignore function, he no longer exists on my computer.