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Hammock Parties 06-29-2023 03:10 PM

As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fzpo_CzW...g&name=900x900

Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FztqSMwW...pg&name=medium

Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

https://scontent.fmkc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...mA&oe=64A1F06C

penguinz 06-29-2023 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16999823)
As the thread has now gotten cluttered with trolling, here are the latest updates:

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

You could stop lying.

BigRedChief 06-29-2023 03:55 PM

In this thread there has been feedback that the same thing is happening nationwide. There ain’t enough commies to commit this heinous act on god fearing Americans.

Eureka 06-29-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16999897)
In this thread there has been feedback that the same thing is happening nationwide. There ain’t enough commies to commit this heinous act on god fearing Americans.

Not in California (prop 13).

Although we already pay a shit load of taxes. :shake:

Eureka 06-29-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16999818)
If you can’t rent Phillip are you really living?

The answer is no. Hopefully the tax hike doesn't ruin the travels Clay will have with his lady, sitting in Phillip, and driving to see the wonder sites of Kansas/Missouri.

https://cdn.dealeraccelerate.com/bag...ce-corniche-ii

Hammock Parties 06-30-2023 05:02 PM

Seems fine!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County homeowner stunned by $2M property tax assessment on $200k home <a href="https://t.co/aawR7PLyIp">https://t.co/aawR7PLyIp</a></p>&mdash; Kathleen Choal (@KathleenChoal) <a href="https://twitter.com/KathleenChoal/status/1674749939639787523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Salina Contreras moved to her dream home on seven acres in Kansas City in 2019.

She lives there with her husband and dogs.

"He wanted land and I wanted a porch, so here we are," Contreras said.

For the past several years, Contreras' property tax assessment on her home came in at around $200,000.

This year her home saw a stunning 950 percent increase to more than $2 million.

"If I'd have known I was a millionaire, I'd retire," Contreras said.

Contreras said she never received her tax assessment in the mail as required by law.

It wasn't until a neighbor encouraged Contreras to look online that she discovered her home is now valued at $2.1 million.

"This isn't just a little mistake, this is a huge mistake," Contreras said.

If she didn't catch the error and appeal, $40,000 in taxes could've automatically come out of Contreras' escrow account for the assessed price of her home, according to Chris Wolfenbarger, a 25-year veteran appraiser.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

'We as taxpayers are getting screwed'

She lives there with her husband and dogs.

"He wanted land and I wanted a porch, so here we are," Contreras said.

For the past several years, Contreras' property tax assessment on her home came in at around $200,000.

This year her home saw a stunning 950 percent increase to more than $2 million.

"If I'd have known I was a millionaire, I'd retire," Contreras said.

Contreras said she never received her tax assessment in the mail as required by law.

It wasn't until a neighbor encouraged Contreras to look online that she discovered her home is now valued at $2.1 million.

"This isn't just a little mistake, this is a huge mistake," Contreras said.

If she didn't catch the error and appeal, $40,000 in taxes could've automatically come out of Contreras' escrow account for the assessed price of her home, according to Chris Wolfenbarger, a 25-year veteran appraiser.

"She wasn't ever notified by the county her assessment had gone from $200,000 to $2 million—and because of that—you can't fight," Wolfenbarger said. "You can't appeal. You don't know. If she didn't have a neighbor looking out for her she'd be on the hook and that's what makes me furious."

Wolfenbarger pulled properties nearby for comparison and said those homes fall between $260,000 and $351,000.

It's unknown how many homeowners across Jackson County are getting inaccurate assessments but workshops to teach people how to appeal have filled to capacity.

"We're seeing a 100 percent to 200 percent increase across the board," Wolfenbarger said.

Many of the homes seeing large increases are because the properties were assessed at too low of a cost for too long.

But, several mistakes are occurring in the process.

The KSHB 41 I-Team learned Contreras' home was evaluated as commercial property, which created a false value in the database that generates the assessments.

"To go from $200k to $2 million is a computer error that's so egregious that human oversight should've caught that and didn't," Wolfenbarger said.

Tyler Technologies is the company used by the county that generates the property values. The county entered into an $18 million contract with Tyler.

It's a contract that's paid for by taxpayers like Contreras.

"We as taxpayers are getting screwed," Contreras said. "Who's at fault here?"

Neither the county assessor nor Tyler Technologies would acknowledge how the error occurred, only that it was human error.

The county sent the I-Team this statement:

Tyler and the Assessment department work closely together. I think the important thing is that the mechanisms in place, namely the Value Review, worked as intended. The mistake was identified, corrected expeditiously and without the need for an appeal hearing. The Assessment department is completing about 250 Value Reviews daily, providing expedited resolution for many property owners.

The county did fix Contrera's assessment, which is back in the $200,000 range.

While the county credits its safeguards for identifying issues, Contreras said, like so many others across the county, she's the one who caught the error.

"We shouldn't have to," Contreras said. "Get these assessments right. Somebody absolutely needs to be held accountable."

Contreras did not have to pay for an appraisal to appeal the assessment due to the obvious nature of the error. However, in instances where it's not so clear, Wolfenbarger said it's the homeowners who have to pay to fix the county's mistakes.

"Let's just call it what it is...theft," Wolfenbarger said. "If you assess my house so poorly after you've been paid $18 million to do it right, and I got to pay Chris Wolfenbarger $500 to come out and prove you wrong, you stole $500 from me because you didn't do your job."

notorious 06-30-2023 05:09 PM

JFC

ToxSocks 06-30-2023 05:19 PM

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The KSHB 41 I-Team learned Contreras' home was evaluated as commercial property, which created a false value in the database that generates the assessments.
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Tyler and the Assessment department work closely together. I think the important thing is that the mechanisms in place, namely the Value Review, worked as intended. The mistake was identified, corrected expeditiously and without the need for an appeal hearing. The Assessment department is completing about 250 Value Reviews daily, providing expedited resolution for many property owners.
So this is a case of incompetence. Glad they figured it out for this lady because that would've been ridiculous.

ToxSocks 06-30-2023 05:22 PM

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Many of the homes seeing large increases are because the properties were assessed at too low of a cost for too long.
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.

Eureka 06-30-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17001911)
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.

Well prop 13 has saved us from going through this fiasco. I still hate the .0019% school measure bonds etc I see on my property tax bill. There are 3 of them on my bill + others.

duncan_idaho 07-01-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 17001911)
I bet. $82,000 homes. Sounds like a lot of people were skating by at egregiously low rates for too long, got spoiled by it, and now the bill is coming due.


Some areas didn’t get reviewed in 19 when the county last did this. We got hit then and went to a pretty fair market value.

The issue is that on top of that, people are being assessed at crazy, arbitrary values that are not in line with sale prices.

Mine increased 44 percent (after increasing in 21, too) , and put it at 125,000 clear of what 2 similar SF homes on my literal block have sold for in the past two months.

I didn’t squawk when the increase happened in 19. It was fair. This is not a fair assessment.

There are lots of people with that issue. And I’m sure some whose homes were drastically undervalued for assessment purposes

Woogieman 07-01-2023 12:15 PM

A friend had an appt with the County and sat before Tyler Technologies employees (the flounders responsible for the mass appraisals) and went over the appraisal she has performed. She inherited the home from her father that has the home rebuilt in 1993 after a fire. She had interior pics from the appraisal, but they kept hammering her on things like "are you sure there isn't a new stove?!". They were $100+K over the appraisal and they
were arguing over a stove! If you have a challenge appt. nake sure you have pics of deficiencies, dated decor, and functional obsolescences (ceilings less than 8', bedrooms without hall access, floor levels with no bath etc). From what she gathered, Jackson Co. spent $19mm on Tyler Tech, which is why they had to sent employees to KC to CYA the fiasco.

Pablo 07-01-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17002528)
A friend had an appt with the County and sat before Tyler Technologies employees (the flounders responsible for the mass appraisals) and went over the appraisal she has performed. She inherited the home from her father that has the home rebuilt in 1993 after a fire. She had interior pics from the appraisal, but they kept hammering her on things like "are you sure there isn't a new stove?!". They were $100+K over the appraisal and they
were arguing over a stove! If you have a challenge appt. nake sure you have pics of deficiencies, dated decor, and functional obsolescences (ceilings less than 8', bedrooms without hall access, floor levels with no bath etc). From what she gathered, Jackson Co. spent $19mm on Tyler Tech, which is why they had to sent employees to KC to CYA the fiasco.

Type in Tyler Technologies lawsuit in google. They must be hemorrhaging all that money they got in various payouts for all sorts of shit

LMAO

Hammock Parties 07-05-2023 05:45 PM

here we go

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Jackson County property tax appeal deadline looms, one group is taking action <a href="https://t.co/68OPrg0T4I">https://t.co/68OPrg0T4I</a></p>&mdash; KMBC (@kmbc) <a href="https://twitter.com/kmbc/status/1676738237027475457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As Jackson County property tax appeal deadline looms, one group is taking action


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JACKSON COUNTY, Mo. —

Jackson County homeowners are running out of time to file an appeal over skyrocketing property taxes.

The deadline is July 10.

One of the final workshops is getting under way later Wednesday night in Kansas City.

Several have been held throughout the area over the past few weeks because so many people have been struggling with their assessments.

Property taxes, in many cases, have gone up 90 percent and higher from over two years ago.

The assessments have left a lot of people angry, confused and scared about what they will do if they are forced to pay taxes based on these new numbers.

One group is doing something about it.

They plan to hold a rally on Saturday down by the steps of the Jackson County Courthouse.

"We have got to somehow in Jackson County figure out a major plan of where they're at in the assessment department, because right now it's basically out of control," said Preston Smith, a Jackson County resident.

The protest is designed to get the attention of Jackson County in hopes that what they are calling a broken assessment system will get fixed before people lose their homes.

Wednesday night's workshop is at the Longview campus.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-05-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 16999188)
The properties were undervalued for years. I didn't see anyone complaining when they were paying absolute dick for property taxes. I read an article of someone complaining that their assessment went up like 700% and they showed the YoY assessment. The prior year value was 18,000 and it went up to 120,000. Did these people contact the city in years prior to let them know their property was undervalued?

Unless the county is assessing your property for over what it is actually worth, stop your bitching and pay your taxes.

Did you work for the British Empire in the 1760s?


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