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DaveNull 11-28-2012 06:00 PM

Do you even read?

Hammock Parties 11-28-2012 09:53 PM

It's great that you think a hard drive is worth the price of an entire computer.

Silock 11-28-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9159948)
LMAO

It's ****ing absurd.

I can buy TWO 480 GB SSDs for $700 on Newegg. Installation is incredibly simple.

I'd much rather have that than ONE for $1300.

Apple continues to profit because their customers are morons.

Right, but is there even room for two of those things in an iMac? And you know as well as anyone that incrementally larger single drives are much more expensive.

I'm not saying it's worth all $1300, but it's not absurdly out of line.

Fish 12-25-2012 08:44 PM

So.... AustinChief? Your time period on our bet is up. Apple's iPad market share currently sits at 53% according to IDC.

Are you ready to honor our bet?

http://boygeniusreport.files.wordpre...0-39-09-am.png

http://bgr.com/2012/12/05/tablet-market-share-2012/

AustinChief 12-25-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9241073)
So.... AustinChief? Your time period on our bet is up. Apple's iPad market share currently sits at 53% according to IDC.

Are you ready to honor our bet?

http://boygeniusreport.files.wordpre...0-39-09-am.png

http://bgr.com/2012/12/05/tablet-market-share-2012/

Will have to wait until next month to get the final holiday sales since the bet is supposed to end Jan 1st. AND IDC is completely off by miles on that number. As I pointed out, they only count the major name brand tablets and pretty much ignore China and India and any "off brand" tablets here. I showed you numbers from 6 months ago(I think, maybe it was further back) that take into account the entire market space and iPad's were on their way to my 16% goal. All that being said, I have a sneaking feeling I won't hit the goal in time. My best guess is that once I take the time to find credible numbers, iPads will be in the 20-30% range. Microsoft let me down by being 6-8 months behind schedule and just generally sucking overall.

I'll find the time to look for credible numbers over the next month, but like I said, it looks like I will be one holiday season off on the bet, and you will be getting a tablet from me!

You have to admit, the trend is definitely there, I just may have been overly aggressive on my time estimate.


All of this doesn't mean I am conceding just yet! I haven't looked at any of the numbers in months so who knows.

Here is what a quick search resulted in this blurb from October...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digitimes
China-based white-box makers as a whole are shipping four million tablets a month currently. Allen Wu, president, ARM China, predicts that shipments of Android-based tablets by China makers are likely to reach 50 million units in 2012

That's more than the 48 million iPads estimated for 2012... so IDC has zero credibility with me on their numbers. As I pointed out when we made the bet, finding accurate numbers is going to be a compete bitch.

If we assume that IDC counts everything except white box tablets in China and India (a huge assumption that neither one of us should swallow, it could go either way) then without counting India (or Malaysia or whoever) at all you are looking at iPads holding somewhere around 34%. Not saying that number is at all correct, just showing that IDC has never been a reliable source for overall numbers, just more of a good place to watch trends.

Fish 12-25-2012 11:55 PM

I found a "2013 Global Tablet Forecast" article from Dec. 11th, from the same Digitimes source you quoted, that says:

Quote:

The aggressive pricing of the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 is likely to give Google strong momentum in 2013. Digitimes Research projects that Google will become the number two tablet vendor, while Apple will retain the top spot, with its share of branded tablet shipments declining slightly to 55.6%. Factoring in white box tablets, Apple's share of all tablet shipments will drop below 40%.

The explosion in white box tablet shipments in 2012 means that Android will overtake iOS to become the largest platform in 2012. Combined shipments of all Android tablets - including branded, white box, Amazon and Barnes & Noble devices - are projected to hit 121 million units in 2013, representing 40.2% growth on 2012 figures.

http://www.digitimes.com/Reports/Rep...ges=RS&seq=400
That link has a metric shit ton of data, by the way. Holy shit... I thought we discussed tablets pretty thoroughly, but the info they have on there is absurd.

Let's revisit this after the new year, and go from there.

NOTE: I'm pretty sure the quoted snippet above has a type, and they mean Android will overtake iOS in 2013, instead of 2012.

DaveNull 12-26-2012 09:51 AM

So what exactly will be the deciding criteria? Numbers shipped? Numbers sold? Usage on the web?

DaveNull 12-26-2012 10:02 AM

Oh yeah...saw this last night. I have no idea how they pulled in the stats.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>First tweet from my new iPad/Surface/Kindle/Nexus! <a href="http://t.co/suoYzGQw" title="http://i.imgur.com/cg6O5.jpg">i.imgur.com/cg6O5.jpg</a></p>&mdash; Andy Baio (@waxpancake) <a href="https://twitter.com/waxpancake/status/283736105717755904" data-datetime="2012-12-26T00:48:53+00:00">December 26, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Saulbadguy 12-26-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveNull (Post 9241522)
Oh yeah...saw this last night. I have no idea how they pulled in the stats.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>First tweet from my new iPad/Surface/Kindle/Nexus! <a href="http://t.co/suoYzGQw" title="http://i.imgur.com/cg6O5.jpg">i.imgur.com/cg6O5.jpg</a></p>&mdash; Andy Baio (@waxpancake) <a href="https://twitter.com/waxpancake/status/283736105717755904" data-datetime="2012-12-26T00:48:53+00:00">December 26, 2012</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


They searched "first tweet ipad" or "first tweet nexus" etc

HC_Chief 12-26-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9159948)
Apple continues to profit because their customers are morons.

No they're not, they're iDiots. There is a difference.

Pitt Gorilla 12-26-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 9242651)
No they're not, they're iDiots. There is a difference.

I'm trying to think of something dumber than buying a quality product.

Deberg_1990 12-26-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9242829)
I'm trying to think of something dumber than buying a quality product.

Go Turd is the biggest Moron on this board.

Bewbies 12-27-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9242829)
I'm trying to think of something dumber than buying a quality product.

When you live in your parents basement the whole world is skewed.

HC_Chief 12-29-2012 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9242829)
I'm trying to think of something dumber than buying a quality product.

It was a joke in reference to the "i" branding of devices, resulting in a quadrupled cost.

Did your hair move as it flew overhead?

Pitt Gorilla 01-12-2013 01:46 AM

Customers have downloaded 40 billion apps from Apple's App Store, with half of those coming in 2012.


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