They will franchise him. I guaran****ing tee it. They'll even do it twice if they have too. Hell, they may make a play at Albert and drop the ****ing tag on him if they can pull it off.

Then, their only option is to franchise him.

Or take another left tackle in the first round

The thought of a motionless Manning laying on the field probably does...

Fisher and Joeckel are gonna be long gone and te other guys are right tackles.

They can always trade picks

So they should move a couple premium picks to move up and draft Cladys replacement instead of just paying him something between Joe Thomas' deal and that of Browns'?

That wouldn't improve a team trying to improve to capitalize on a superbowl window that is incredibly small.

I guess I don't see that...

The market has been set. If Clady and his agent don't agree to a reasonable deal, he'll be Franchised.

Keep in mind, Brown was the 26th overall selection, so the Broncos don't necessarily have to take a guy in the Top Ten to get a great left tackle.

But beyond that, why are we even discussing Clady? He's been a Pro Bowler and an All-Pro. Branden Albert has been neither.

Albert and his agent are smoking crack if they think they'll get a contract similar to that of Clady & Brown.

I'd be good with it if Albert did get a sweet deal. But Dane's right, he's not going too. Can't blame them for trying, but if they get Bowe signed, you can expect Albert to cave almost instantaneously. Leverage is gone at that point.

I'm not worried about Albert. It will happen.

I'm more concerned about Bowe, simply because I don't know how eager Andy Reid is to teach a pretty different offensive system to a 28-year old WR

Isn't the route tree pretty much the same in any offense?

About as eager as he is to spend draft picks for a 29-year-old QB (when the season starts) who hasn't accomplished dick in his career and is the statistical twin to Cassel.

Bowe is probably gone and that sux a little. He would be perfect for a short passing game but he is not going to get the money he wants from us.

Yep. Protecting Brokeneck and his quick release will make the overrated Clady CASH in. He's going to be PAID.

Who are they spending it on?

They have to spend it somewhere.

Terminology is different in transitioning in a E/P offense to a WCO.

TBS, I have no doubt that Bowe can make that transition effectively.

The Chiefs are already in the top 10 in the league in cash spending. They're meeting all of the mandated minimums in the new CBA.

They don't HAVE to spend more money.

It's certainly an offense that suits his skill set pretty well

Totally.

Absolutely. He's going to destroy worlds in Reid's WCO.

I thought they did because of the salary floor this season.

In a WCO all HandBowenana will know is ball, good,.....and rape.

The minimum spending requirements in the CBA (at least the way I understand it) have to do with cash spent against the cap.

The Chiefs are like 9th in the league in cash spent.

They're already WELL above the floor.

He'll have more opportuneity for drops in a WCO after he doesn't recieve a single contract offer from other teams and is forced to play for the minimum./BlackBozo

Albert is on his 3rd GM. Who knows how good he could be with some front office stability...

ROFL

This.

LMAO
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Just saying bowe has the move the chains skill set but not ghe long ball set. He will want top wr money that he wont get here. Reid will sign a more dynamic guy in fa.

Name those "dynamic" WRs in free agency.

And I'd take a move the chain skill set over a long ball set any day of the week and 5 times on sundays.

Uh, he's got solid quickness and runs solid routes.

He's money for the type of double moves that Andy likes to utilize. Bowe running sluggos is going to blow your mind if he's resigned.

I have a feeling Bowe wants like 80% of Calvin/Fitzy money and I just don't think he's going to get it, but he's going to try for it.

Patriot Way is gone.

Reid will pay players.

Reid Gave Vick like a gazillion dollars...scary.

Less than cassel makes.

I don't think so.

8/29/2011: Signed a six-year, $100 million contract. The deal contains $32.5 million guaranteed, including a $7 million signing bonus and all of Vick's first- and second-year base salaries and $3 million of his 2013 salary (for injury only). The sixth year voids if Vick participates in 35% of the Eagles' offensive snaps in any of the first five seasons, making the contract more realistically worth $80 million over five years. Another $3 million is available through incentives based on Super Bowl wins in 2011 and 2012, and playing time (77.5% of the regular season snaps). 2013: $15.5 million, 2014: $12.5 million (+ $3 million roster bonus), 2015: $14.5 million (+ $2 million roster bonus), 2016: $20 million (Dummy Year), 2017: Free Agent

Vick got 6-100 with 32.5 guaranteed
Cassel 28 guaranteed

hey you could sell me on Alex Smith between the 20s and Vick as the red zone QB!!!

Ok, I'm kidding.

If I read that right...I bet Vick gets released.


This is gonna be a roller coaster offseason leading up to the draft.

"The Chiefs will trade for Alex Smith"

"The Chiefs will sign Mike Vick"

-neither happens-

With the first pick in the 2013 NFL draft, The Kansas City Chiefs select GENO SMITH, WEST VIRGINIA.

I stand corrected, but still. It isnt an outrageous contract.

I'd rather have Alex Smith a million times over Vick.

So are we on board with being ok if he gets Duane Brown money?

Some people may not be, but if his back checks out 100% then I'm good with it.

Whatever we need to do to stop the damn talks of Joekel as our 1st pick

If his back checks out, yeah, I'm fine with it. Some might say that doing that will cause us not to be able to sign other free agents down the road, which may be the case, but LT is a spot we are going to have to have for our new QB to succeed. If we have to overpay a little, thats fine.

Unless they're over 30.

Which, IMO, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Honestly to me, by the time that happens we'll be in a position to renegotiate, or drop the contract. With our cap position it should be incredibly front friendly. The only thing that worries me about front loaded contracts are hold outs later on, but I don't see Albert being a problem.

I couldn't care less how much money we pay Albert, or any other player that's GOOD, for that matter.

Nope.

Well, yeah. It's not my money, I don't really care how much they pay GOOD players as long as they keep them around.

Danny Parkins ‏@DannyParkins

I'm hearing Branden Albert wants to stay in KC but is not interested in a hometown discount and wants to be paid like a top 5 Left Tackle.

Hello Luke.

No problem with that.
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Damn it Albert, don't mess this up for us. Get on board.



What does a top 5 LT make?

And well he should be.

Signing Albert to a top LT contract or franchising him would be the best thing ever, because it would flush Matt Miller and all the true fans down the toilet...putting us on the golden path to taking a franchise QB #1.

1 sack allowed in 750 snaps last year.

5 year 50 mil to 60 mil.
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Luke Joeckel isnt even the best LT in this draft, let alone the best player available. It's time to get off the Joeckel train.

Joe Thomas - $80 million with 28 guaranteed
Trent Williams (Rookie Contract) - $60 million with 19 guaranteed
D'Brickashaw Ferguson - $60 million with 10 guaranteed
Jordan Gross - $56 million with 24 guaranteed
Duane Brown - $53 million with 22 guaranteed

Yeah, I'm fine with that.


Lets lock up our LT who's coming of his rookie contract, that has played with shit at Qb and done a great job.

Same here

He postures for top 5, we'll offer top 10, and then they'll split the difference and wrap it up.
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done

we're cutting some bum ass contracts this off season (cassell, jackson) it will feel good to pay someone who deserves it..

If the Back is Good then yes.

The idea that any fan is even considering Joeckel as a replacement for Albert because it would be cheaper is just sad. Pay Albert. Pay Bowe. Draft Smith. Enjoy the next 5 years of Chiefs offense.

This town really needs to get out of the defeatist risk-averse budget mindset.

yessir

no need to create extra problems/holes...find 2-3 starters with our first 4 picks, 1-2 B level FAs, and all of sudden we're in business...

If his back checks out, yeah, I don't really care about spending money. I'm not all about being a AAA team for some of this larger market teams.

we should have the money for this, especially since we are going to cut Cassel and Jackson.

Even if Albert does walk, id still take a QB at #1.

It's interesting how people are acting like Albert's damaged goods now. Other than the back, which we have ZERO evidence is a lasting injury, hasn't he been one of the most durable players on the roster?

Well now maybe Pioli drafting Stephenson doesn't look like such a shitty move now afterall. LMAO

Missed 1 game in 2008. 2 games in 2009. 1 game in 2010. 3 games in 2012.

And the Chiefs already have a young "potential" back up for Albert if he is in&out of the line up this season

Details on Branden Albert's contract situation coming into focus

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A new report from 610 Sports' Danny Parkins says Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert wants to be paid like a top left tackle. What does that mean and how much will it cost?

Slowly but surely we're starting to glean more information about the situation with Branden Albert and the Kansas City Chiefs. Danny Parkins of 610 Sports reports Albert wants to stay in Kansas City ... but doesn't want to take a hometown discount.
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</center>I'm not sure if anyone actually expected him to take a hometown discount. That's a thing that's talked about a lot but it doesn't happen very often.

Parkins also reported on 610 Sports that Albert wants to be paid like a top five left tackle.

So what does that mean?

It means roughly $10 million per year, or more, depending on the contract.

In 2011 Joe Thomas signed a record-breaking eight-year, $92 million deal with the Browns.
In 2010 D'Brickashaw Ferguson signed an eight-year, $73 million deal with the Jets.
In 2010 Donald Penn signed six-year, $41.7 million deal with the Bucs.
In 2009 Michael Roos signed a six-year, $43 million deal with theTitans.
In 2009 Jordan Gross signed a six-year, $60 million deal with thePanthers.

Perhaps the most comparable player to Albert is the Broncos' Ryan Clady. He was drafted three spots before Albert in the 2008 NFL Draft. We have some concerns about Albert's back given last season and Clady had a fairly serious knee injury in 2010.
Clady, last summer, reportedly turned down a five-year, $50 million contract.
Personally this doesn't surprise me at all. That $10+ million per year figure is about what I expected.
Now can -- or should -- the Chiefs lock him up?

And they just completely leave out the contract that Duane Brown signed in August of last year.

I guess it all comes down to his back and how the guarantees are lined up. If his back is ok, sign the guy long term and cross left tackle off the list. Just make sure there is stuff in the deal that allows the deal to be voided if his back continues to give him trouble.

If his back gives him more trouble, draft a left tackle in the next two drafts.

If his back gives him trouble.....put in Stephenson and see if he's worth holding onto.

Exactly.

The idea that you need a "great" left tackle to win a Super Bowl is as big a myth as "a quarterback is worth the 12th pick, but not the top overall pick"

The combination of Albert and Stephenson is as good, or better, than any starting left tackle of the recent Super Bowl winners.