Has anyone seen the latest from Bill Williamson about how he is now talking about whether or not the Raiders should take Smith? It's just assinine how little faith he has in Geno, and doesn't even think the Raiders should take him. He's a ****ing bum, and really wish he wasn't the AFC West beat writer.
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Nothing short of Chiefs saying it, or actually doing it, will shut anyone up. Because you do not know definitively that they will take Geno, no matter how obvious it seems. |
htis, I know what was being said, but it seems the tide is somewhat turning. People on CP complain and get pissed at Genoites etc, when in fact it's that the so called Geno Ballwashers have had to take a barrage of bullshit for the past 3 months.
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It's tough having a huge fan base when there is only one or two "geneartions" of fans to support it. Not really even two generations. Also, I never cared about the attendance. Sellout or not I enjoy the win just the same. Hell, saves me money and stress trying to get a ticket. |
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Kansas City Chiefs: Visual Breakdown and Analysis of Quarterback Geno Smith
The following breakdown will highlight Smith's dynamic skill set and display why the Chiefs should consider taking West Virginia's playmaker at No. 1 overall. Smith's game will be broken down on five levels: pocket presence, arm strength, mechanics, accuracy and intangibles. Pocket Presence A quarterback's pocket presence unveils key attributes of his psyche. Does the player show poise and evade pressure while keeping his eyes downfield, or will he regress to a panicked frenzy and surrender in the fetal position? Is the quarterback acutely aware of his surroundings, and is he known to manipulate the pocket to elude pressure? Or will he fall victim to tunnel vision and operate oblivious to the pass rushers? When compared to his 2013 compadres, Smith's presence is second to none. He dictates the pocket, as opposed to letting a shrinking pocket dictate him (see Matt Cassel). http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359053100 In the above highlight, West Virginia lines up in a trips-left formation (three wide receivers on the left side of the line), and Smith immediately scans the trio's half of the field once the ball is snapped. Seeing that his slot receiver is covered after running a hook route, he steps up through a crease in the right half of the pocket. However, his running back fails to diagnose and pick up the delayed blitzer, who freely charges at the quarterback like a crazed bull. Even with one arm draped across his chest, Smith still manages to connect with a receiver for a nine-yard first down. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359053441 Here, West Virginia's left tackle is victimized by a rip move. Baylor's right defensive end barrels toward the quarterback, and Smith rolls to the right to negate the oncoming pressure. Eventually, he lobs a high-arcing pass to Stedman Bailey in the back of the end zone. This is the kind of play that truly defines a quarterback as a playmaker, and only a select group of passers are capable of pulling it off. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359053692 Again, the West Virginia tailback lags in recognizing the pursuer. Smith, with his eyes still locked downfield, steps up in the pocket to avoid the edge rusher. The LSU player's momentum carries him past the quarterback, but not before he attempts to swipe and drag No. 12 down by the hip. Smith spin-cycles out of the would-be-tackler's grasp, rolls right and throws a 10-yard strike across the field. Arm Strength In the NFL, a premium is placed on arm strength. Quarterbacks attempt to sling passes through Boeing-like windows as defenders relentlessly shadow receivers; it's like playing laser tag in a room full of hyperactive cats. Smith doesn't boast the strongest arm of the 2013 class. But, rest assured, he will answer the call and launch rockets when necessary. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359053993 As the play unfolds, Baylor rushes three and drops eight defenders into zone coverage. In this scenario, Smith is presented with two logical options: throw a screen to his slot receiver—which would likely result in a minimal gain, considering the strongside linebacker is roaming the area—or bullet a pass between the two safeties and inside linebacker. The second choice requires perfect timing and pinpoint accuracy in order to be successful; Smith provided both. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054120 Clemson elects to rush defenders while a linebacker plays the "spy" role: He tracks the quarterback's line of vision and stalks his movement, limiting the passer's ability to scramble. Smith subtly steps forward to avoid pressure and delivers a missile down the middle of the field. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054286 The play begins at the 6-yard line. Play-action momentarily freezes the inside linebacker for Texas, creating a wider passing lane to the left side of the field. The safety overplays the receiver's route, resulting in Smith splitting the alley between the safety and inside linebacker. Mechanics Ideally, quarterbacks will drop back holding the football at shoulder-pad level. They should bend their knees when planting—while keeping a wide stance with their feet—guide the pass with their shoulders and feet perpendicular to the target, then release the ball with the throwing elbow above the shoulders. At least, that would be conventional wisdom offered by a scout in a five-floor elevator ride. Like many prospects, Smith's mechanics, while solid, could benefit from some tweaking at the next level. Most scouts would likely claim that Smith, at times, doesn't hold the ball at a secure height, and his whipping throwing motion results in a less-than-desirable release point. Smith also has a tendency to swing his plant foot or throw off of it with rushers converging in front of him. Regardless, whatever he's doing is obviously working, with potential to be even better. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054392 The fluidity of this play mimics drills on Jon Gruden's quarterback specials. Smith sells the run, makes a five-step drop and completes a comeback route across the field—one of the most difficult throws in football. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054483 Working against the vaunted second-ranked defense of LSU, Smith points his shoulders in the direction of the outside receiver. The fake forces the safety to drift toward the sideline and allows the West Virginia quarterback to gun a touchdown pass in the middle of the end zone. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054620 Smith already knows where he wants to go with the football on this play. Following the snap, his legs stay aligned parallel to the hash marks, but he looks off the safety by eyeing his wideout on the left side of the formation. The safety bites—and even turns around—which gift-wraps an open field for West Virginia's tight end. Accuracy Accuracy: It's the most fundamentally significant aspect of passing, and it's also Geno Smith's biggest selling point. In most cases, college statistics are irrelevant when projecting how talent will transition to the NFL. And ex-coaches wouldn't be labeled whistleblowers by revealing how fragile Big 12 defenses tend to be. And yes, West Virginia showcases a spread offense, which tends to inflate statistics. But West Virginia doesn't call as many screens as most outsiders would presume. Plus, 39 of Smith's passes racked up at least 25 yards (via CFBstats.com). Smith's GPS-like accuracy (pause for critics to make an Apple Maps joke) and sound decision-making deserve the lion's share of credit for completing 71.2 percent of his passes and throwing 42 touchdowns to only six interceptions. You're not going to find a quarterback with better ball placement. Period. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054722 Short Passing: Operating from Texas' 7-yard line, the safety and weakside linebacker take the play-action bait, and Smith rifles a completion on a slant route. If the pass spiraled off course to the right, it would have been batted in the air. If it faded farther to the left, the cornerback would have welcomed an interception with open arms. Had the throw lacked velocity, the receiver would have been nailed harder than a Tool Time blooper. But Smith drilled it right in between Bailey's hands. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359054845 The books recorded this pass as a seven-yard touchdown. But technically, the throw traveled close to 18 yards in the air. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055021 Red-zone fades are a true testament to how dynamic a passer is. The art of quarterbacking strips down to one core principle: accuracy. And on a red-zone fade, all that a passer is asked to do is throw a finessed lob inside of the corner pylon. Simple enough, right? But the quarterback can't put too much air under it, or the cornerback will jostle for position and intercept it. The thrower can't toss it with too much strength, or the ball will sail out of bounds. And while most fades target a tall wideout with springs for calves, Geno Smith is tasked with dropping it in to the 5'10" Stedman Bailey. But Smith's accuracy allows him to execute the throw in textbook fashion. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055139 In another goal-to-go scenario, West Virginia's playmaker lasers a pass to Bailey on a slant. If his receiver doesn't come down with it, nobody does. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055255 Intermediate Passing: Smith backpedals from Clemson's left defensive end, then rolls away from backside pressure. On the move, he fires a 14-yard fastball to Tavon Austin. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055371 At the last second, Clemson's inside linebacker drops into coverage and obscures Smith's primary target. Instead of risking an inaccurate throw, Smith refrains from the gamble, resets his feet and completes a 15-yard out route over a soaring linebacker on the opposite side of the field. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055548 The above clip exhibits Smith's anticipation and timing. The pass oozes with confidence and speaks to the harmonious rapport that the quarterback shares with his receivers. This particular completion is indicative of what to expect from the senior's game. Accuracy laid the foundation for his hype train, and leading his receivers has proven to be one of Smith's trademarks. NFL fans will rarely witness a wideout slow to a halt in order to catch the ball, then turn upfield and chew up yardage like a rural mower. The speed of the game doesn't allow it. Smith has developed a symbiotic relationship with his pass-catchers, hitting them in stride so they can capitalize on their momentum down the field. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055635 Downfield Passing: Sure, a smattering of West Virginia's 39 deep passes were attributed to the game-breaking elusiveness of Bailey and Austin. But the vast majority stemmed from aerial arches sponsored by Smith's right arm. His most noticeable improvement from the 2011 season came in the form of downfield passing. Good offense trumps good defense. In the above highlight, the Texas Tech cornerback and West Virginia's receiver are practically joined at the hip. If Smith doesn't deliver a flawless throw, the pass lands out of bounds, ricochets incomplete or sticks to the defender's gloves. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055825 With his back against West Virginia's end zone, Smith torches LSU by catapulting a downfield bomb that strikes No. 1 in stride. Being that Austin could run through the wilderness and spark a forest fire, that says something. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359055926 Despite eight defenders retreating into coverage, Smith evades Baylor's bull-rushing defensive tackle and draws a pigskin rainbow through the air. Double coverage still failed, as Smith's Mountaineers eclipsed the 70-point mark following the touchdown. Intangibles Smith shows all the signs of a perfectionist: He's a highly competitive English major who studies more film than Roger Ebert. West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen said (via ESPN), There are a lot of guys who will sit and get on the Internet and read article after article about themselves, or turn on the TV and record their interviews. [Geno Smith's] a guy that just doesn't do that. He would rather read a book or put a [video] on his iPad and go home and study. It shows on the field. Smith won't attempt to thread the needle if there's no purpose to it. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359056031 This is an unconventional play, but one that West Virginia utilizes from time to time. It's a double screen: the slot receiver doesn't run a route at the snap but turns to Smith as other wideouts block up the field. Smith recognizes that the Baylor linebacker drops into zone and will be able to make a play on the slot wideout. On the other side of the field, West Virginia's right guard and center release from their blocks, heading upfield to plow the way for their running back. But Smith sees that Baylor's left defensive end recognized the screen, as he runs stride-for-stride with the West Virginia tailback. With nine defenders in coverage, Smith wastes no time in deciding to scramble with the ball—the only sensible option left. |
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Here, Baylor tries to deceive the West Virginia quarterback. The linebackers rush while the defensive ends roll out into coverage. This results in man coverage down the field—the archenemy of defenses facing mobile quarterbacks. Knowing that the secondary can't afford to have eyes in the backfield and his receivers' routes will pull defensive backs toward the sideline, Smith drops back just long enough to sell the pass, then takes off down the right half of the field. It's clear that Tavon Austin (No.1) and Smith are on the same page, as Austin stops his route to drag his defender away from the quarterback's running lane. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...gif?1359056309 This is the most demanding pass that a quarterback can throw. On 3rd-and-6, Smith knows that he needs to make a play (despite West Virginia hammering Clemson by 36 points). Clemson rushes three linemen and tacks on a safety blitz. Realizing that there's no containment, Smith rolls right and unleashes a 32-yard missile across his body—between two diving defenders—for the first down. Somebody might ask, "How is that considered "'intangible'?" Although the escapability and cross-body bullet will trigger the applause (as it should), Smith's decision-making is equally impressive. Knowing the safety beelined in on a blitz, Smith strolled toward the sideline and waited for his receiver to cross the vacated zone that the aforementioned safety would otherwise cover. And while Smith left the Pinstripe Bowl in defeat, his stats (19-of-28, 201 yards, two touchdowns) bested Ryan Nassib's (11-of-23, 130 yards, two touchdowns, one interception)—another potential first-round quarterback. With an avalanche covering the field, Smith watched the opposing offense churn out 369 rushing yards—the deciding factor of the game. In his previous bowl—when weather didn't oppress the passing game—Smith (32-of-43, 407 yards, six passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown) spearheaded a West Virginia onslaught that posted 70 points—an Orange Bowl record. And although Smith didn't hoist the Heisman Trophy, his senior passing stats (71.2 completion percentage, 4,205 yards, 42 touchdowns, six interceptions) are comparable to Robert Griffin III's (72.4 completion percentage, 4,293 yards, 37 touchdowns, six interceptions). Considering the buffet of offensive schemes and conferences, stats are normally rendered worthless when projecting prospects to the big league. But both Smith and Griffin operated spread offenses, in the same conference, one year apart. The caliber of offensive talent surrounding them is comparable, too. And with West Virginia's migration to the Big 12, Smith hadn't ever seen the majority of defenses he faced during his senior campaign, unlike Griffin. Nobody is claiming that West Virginia's quarterback is better than the 2011 Heisman winner. But, strictly from a passing perspective, Smith's production as a three-year starter is nothing to scoff at. The Chiefs' stubborn 25-year philosophy of drafting quarterbacks after the first round and dumpster diving for other teams' leftovers hasn't paid off. Football is personified chess; if you spend a quarter-century being checkmated, it might be time to rethink your strategy. And if not now, then when? Geno Smith can complete every throw, diagnose every read and puts in more overtime than Walmart's Black Friday payroll. He's also a proven leader. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ack-geno-smith |
ok now link that :P
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it is...the most interesting....post....in the world. JIMP
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SHAWN ZOBEL STRIKES BACK
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It's funny that Zobel has tried to get a job with pro teams for years.
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I actually respect his "fake it til you make it" schtick he's got going on, and clearly he puts a lot of work into what he does.... But **** his opinions on this QB class. |
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I hope he gets air time on draft day when we draft Geno saying how this is a huge mistake for the franchise. Then I hope Geno rapes faces as a franchise QB, and Zobel gets blacklisted from the entire draft biz. Then I hope he dies alone in his apartment with his cats, a fat virgin. |
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Wow really?!? Geno over threw a few Wrs in his first week at IMG while hes working on mechanics and footwork? http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9...tellmemore.jpg |
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However, he is the ONLY QB he has rated in his top 32. :LOL: |
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http://draftheadquarters.com/draft-preview.htm I wouldn't offer the asshole a wooden nickel for any of his crapinions. |
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His mock drafts are ****ing awwwwwwfulll. Look at his "final mock draft 2012". He got like a few of the obvious ones right and the rest just blew goat;
Final 2012 Mock Draft Updated: April 26th, 2012 1. Indianapolis - Andrew Luck QB Stanford 2. Washington (from St. Louis) - Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 3. Minnesota - Morris Claiborne CB LSU 4. Cleveland - Trent Richardson RB Alabama 5. Tampa Bay - Luke Kuechly LB Boston College 6. St. Louis (from Washington) - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 7. Jacksonville - Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State 8. Miami - Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 9. Carolina - Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina 10. Buffalo - Matt Kalil OT USC 11. Kansas City - Mark Barron S Alabama 12. Seattle - Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina 13. Arizona - Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 14. Dallas - Michael Brockers DT LSU 15. Philadelphia - Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi State 16. New York Jets - Chandler Jones DE Syracuse 17. Cincinnati (from Oakland) - David DeCastro OG Stanford 18. San Diego - Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois 19. Chicago - Nick Perry DE USC 20. Tennessee - Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama 21. Cincinnati - Courtney Upshaw LB Alabama 22. Cleveland - Kendall Wright WR Baylor 23. Detroit - Riley Reiff OT Iowa 24. Pittsburgh - Cordy Glenn OT Georgia 25. Denver - Dontari Poe DT Memphis 26. Houston - Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 27. New England (from New Orleans) - Quinton Coples DE North Carolina 28. Green Bay - Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State 29. Baltimore - Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama 30. San Francisco - Amini Silatolu OG Midwestern State 31. New England - Harrison Smith S Notre Dame 32. New York Giants - Coby Fleener TE Stanford |
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I just looked at some 2012 mock drafts and realized...
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I bet he thought he was hot shit in 2009.
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If he was smart he would have compared himself to Walter Football, who might be an even worse guesser.
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His newest mock has KC taking Wilson #1 overall, then Geno not even going in the 1st round.
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The 90 percent is probably just based on total players in the 1st round, not draft position.
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Damnit Chiefs, just take a risk for once.
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he overthrew because of his newfound power in proper footwork. You see...Genos throwing just went from "bay city rollers" to "far beyond driven". Thats my story....im sticking to it.
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But the 75 or so mock drafts that have Geno going #1 overall come in handy when some moron like BlackBob says "nobody thinks Geno is worth the 1st overall pick". |
By the way, some of those GIFs with summaries that ForeverChief posted aren't accurate.
There's one way towards the bottom against Baylor where it says Geno made a throw over the top with 8 guys in coverage - there's clearly 5 guys rushing the passer. That's part of the reason Geno's production fell off later in the season. Teams like K-State realized that the WVU line was so bad, you could get pressure with 3 and drop 8. Baylor didn't do that and they got ****ing torched. |
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I posted those because I believed them to be very accurate. If you think one isn't, please be specific and let's get it right. The one against Baylor at the bottom is one where he runs, not passes, and there is pretty clear to be 9 guys all in coverage. So I have no idea what you see that is inaccurate. |
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geno...charles...and bowe will prison rape continents.
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It's this one. I don't see a bull-rushing tackle, nor do I see a 3-man rush.
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This is what Joe Flacco thinks about the comment regarding Baylor and their "bull-rushing tackles";
"That is reeruned" |
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