Yeah... you pretty much are.

I am bested. You are very smart.

The signing over of the media rights is not automatically extended with the new deal, as the assignment of said rights is an internal conference matter, and not part of the media contract, so are the schools going to vote on an extension?

Now you have a prologue instead of an epilogue.

People who post on message boards are losers, so you are a loser, and I am a winner. /argues using Braincase logic

FYP. Focus on yourself and your source of identity. You've made great strides today. I knew we'd get around to this with time.

LMAO Flawless victory. Damn, man.

No, rights are for just 6 yrs. IMO, there will be some sort of extension discussed but nothing will happen until the new year (July) and a commish is appointed. New deal does provide stability, especially once you add in tier 3 monies. OU isnt going anywhere because of OSU, dont see UT leaving without OU. UT isnt going independent, considering the proposed and One game.

Indeed, Mr. Pitt Gorilla

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LMAO

A tip to my fellow Planeteers, when you look up "yank chain" on any major search engine, leave "Safe Search" on.

Guys, let's cool it with the personal attacks.

Asshole.

ROFL

Yeah the SEC presidents who have PhDs only wanted Mizzou for the TVs they have even though the majority of them are in border cities. Cities, mind you, that are on the borders and share fanbases with other schools.

Lets get to the real issues. What are KU, KSU, and ISU going to do with all this freaking money?

Iowa State should just save it all for a "rainy day"

Lower tuition, since they are supposed to be not for profit universities, unlike a "for profit" one like University of Phoenix.

Probably possible with this payout.

Possible.......yes. Likely........no

Squander it hiring the Turner Gill's of the world.

Likely? No

Possible? Also no

Pay coaches to leave?

TG's a distant memory with this money.

KU probably bought his plane ticket too at this rate.

wow...

This and all the third tier money on top of it?

Damn I love being in a conference that allows one to go out and earn what they're worth.

Nothing more American than that.

Just setting the rate for the SEC my man.

You're right. Larger TV markets, which means more money, probably didn't play a major role in any of it.

Probably right, but does the SEC need an unstable conference to do that for it? Its an end game where everyone involved will be happy.

Didn't say it wasn't a factor, but to think it was the ONLY factor is ignorant at best.

I found what the SEC was after! Wasn't money. They just wanted people that fit in with them.


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1. St. Louis 530
2. Atlanta 484
3. Birmingham Alabama (tie) 380
3. Orlando (tie) 380
5. Detroit 369
6. Memphis 361
7. Miami 346
8. Baltimore 339
9. Kansas City, Missouri 337
10. Minneapolis (tie) 331

yeah, your list is bullshit.

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane...es-in-the-usa/

you got some tiny towns on yours

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...ngerous-cities

I guess you don't have to worry about anything in the state of Kansas being on a list that only includes major league cities.

Wichita is bigger than Birmingham?


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:LOL:

The Birmingham MSA is twice the size of Wichita.

A&M football tickets sell out for first time since 1990s.

So far, realignment seems to have greatly benefitted everyone in the original Big XII except Texas and possibly Oklahoma.

Yet people still bitch at us about it.

Texas and Oklahoma don't sell out their season tickets?

weird

You think "didn't benefit" = "are worse off in every possible way"?

Weird

They haven't lost season ticket holders, statehood, or their car keys. They did lose their disproportionate share of revenue, though.

huh? The Big 12 has added two better, more historic, and stronger universities.

The new media deal proves that.

It is what it is.

Good riddance.

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4 teams were lost, cupcake. I'm sure TCU is more historic than Nebraska, though.

ROFL

So are you pussies afraid to play them too?

In the spirit of becoming a conference that is both secular and progressive culturally, we'd like to welcome Texas Christian and West Virginia to the conference.

OMG...HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!:rolleyes:

It never ceases to amaze me how much space Saul occupies in Wicked's head. Is there even room for a brain at this point?
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ROFL

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Maybe they can add BYU and Louisville to round out the conference (or even Notre Dame).

Nothing says secular like Protestanst, Baptists, Catholics, and Mormans or sensitive towards LGBT lifestyles like Utah, Kentucky, West Virginia, Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma.

Did I just read that somebody actually said that TCU has more history then Texas A&M, Nebraska, and Missouri?

I hadn't thought about it before, but I decided to look at the enrollments of schools leaving versus adding:

Leaving: 148,000

Adding: 38,000


The average school leaving has 37,000. The total coming is 38,000.

What are FOX and ESPN thinking!?!

What idiots!

Also, it's good to see you back Saul. Many of us were worried for your well being. I've had bad weeks.....

but nothing like what you've been through.

damn

I'm not counting Nebraska.

Of course they have more tradition than any of the schools mentioned.

But WVU and TCU have more athletic success than Missouri and A&M.

And it really isn't close.

Like I said, it worked out well for 10 of the 12 teams. The other two will obviously be fine. If not, they have other avenues available to them, anyway.

Because every conference was tripping over themselves to get TCU in their conference.

$20 plus million per plus the freedom to bring in your own 3rd tier media rights.

Doesn't get much more American than that.

And WVU apparently.

Why would you not count Nebraska?

Lost in the fire drill earlier this week of a higher end Big 12 basketball program losing its head coach to a low end SEC basketball program was Silve's comment that the SEC's media contract is now open for renegotiation after the expansion

Because facts ruin his arguments.

TCU has 2 national titles, 2 BCS appearances and a Heisman trophy winner.

Texas A&M has Yell Leaders and no chick cheerleaders.

Only a complete imbecile would think West Virginia has more football tradition than Texas A&M.

But, clearly, adding A&M and Mizzou is a detriment to the SEC. They'll likely renegotiate a smaller, less lucrative contract.

Because there was no movement on a new media deal when Nebraska ran away from the conference.

Nothing happened.

The new media deal came when the dead weight of MU and A&M left.

I have no problem admitting losing Nebraksa was bad for the conference. But I'm not going to get hung up on a school that can't beat Texas thus leaves.

What can one do?

Indeed, I'm sure the numbers will bolster his assertion that membership in the Big 12 is just as lucrative.

In the last decade WVU is 4-3 in bowl games with 3 BCS wins. In that same time Texas A&M is 1-5 and hasn't even sniffed the BCS.

Army was good at football once too.

Let's not pretend that SEC is some down grade. It's obviously an upgrade to being a member of the Big 12. WVU, no doubt wanted the spot Missouri was offered before even considering the Big 12.

If you were so satisfied with this new mega conference the Big 12 has become then you wouldn't be trying so hard to make a case that the Big 12 is better off.

"Look the Big 12 is better guys! Historic powerhouse _TCU_, another Texas school is here to save us!"

I guess we'll have to see what the per school payout is.

Sucks that teams in the SEC can't go out and get more on their own though.

Oh well...

I totally agree. The majority of the schools were getting a raw deal. Those with options left for better deals.

Those that stayed were given better deals as a result. The whole thing is very American. Throughout history, the masses have benefitted from the rugged individualists who were willing to risk the security that comes with subservience in order to find a better lot in life.

Everyone wins here but Oklahoma and Texas, and they made their beds. Besides, they can afford new beds and have been seen talking to furniture salesmen, so they'll be a-ok.

You do remember the running jokes about the winner of the Big East in football the past 5 or so years right?

And there was an article on cbssports that suggested the new SEC contract would make the Big 12 contract look like .47 cents in the ashtray. I believe Slive did say negotiations had already begun. Within several years at the latest the Big 12 contract will be dwarfed by nearly every other major conference, especially once the PAC 12 and SEC both implement their own networks.

Every conference has their anchor schools. PAC has USC and UCLA.... SEC has Alabama and Florida.... Big 12 has Texas and Oklahoma.... BIG has Michigan and OSU.....

There's no situation that is different than any other.

The only reason I'm making an argument is that SG was claiming that Texas and OK were the only ones who weren't "better off". Well now the SEC schools have to split the same $$ with 2 more schools. Why aren't they now not "better off"?

It's just hypocritical. No big deal.

Yea, those jokes would have made sense had they lost their BCS games.

ROFL

If going out and getting more on your own is so important, why aren't you advocating going independent? Isn't that antithetical to the idea of conference affiliation?

The conference provides means to regionally compete with neighboring schools so travel and expense is kept to a reasonable level.

Of course you play "the team across the river". That's how sports has always been run. It's the right way to do it.

If your brand is strong enough to have a running independent media deal and network ala Texas and KU then so be it. Money doesn't buy success on the field. Just look at UT Football the last couple years.

We all know who Rich Rodriguez was. He had some success and the school has been trading on his tenure ever since.

He left for a school in a first tier football conference. I guess that's probably a trend to get used to.

Contract renegotiations have already begun, the money being split will increase immensely in the very near future and will far surpass that of the Big 12. SEC sports are a far more valuable product than the Big 12 and the contracts will reflect that.

Sometimes BCS frauds luck out and end up playing other BCS frauds.

Sort of like the 2008 Orange Bowl.

Oh, come on. No way the SEC would want MU instead of WV. No way would WV rather be in the SEC than the Bog 12. Clearly what happened was that WV was dying to get into the Big 12, so the Big 12 kicked Missouri out for such a massive upgrade, and the SEC became so frightened they added Missouri in a panic move their certainly regret, or they will after their media deal gets negotiated downward as the Big 12 has clearly passed them up in football.