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One of my wife's clients last year was Amazon and she was given several Kindle HD's. For Cinco De Mayo, they bring in food and offer Mexican beer all day long. It's like an endless stream of swag. To me, it's insane. It's like "This is where you work?". |
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Other than Regarding Henry...not a lot of range. Maybe times have changed. |
By the way, I have to say that season 7 is really amazing. Don't think I've seen much else on TV this good. Probably never happen but I'd love for Weiner to write a Star Wars film. :evil:
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I haven't found Jon Hamm to be convincing as anyone else other than as Don Draper. In every other role, IMO, he's been the same. Now sure, he's getting different direction, a different character, etc. But for me, I still see Jon Hamm. Also, I don't see the movie star charisma. Matt McConaghey has a charm and it's easy to see throughout his career, how he's grown. Same for guys like Damon or Affleck or even Ruffalo. He's no where near an RDJ. There are times when Clooney can't escape himself but then he'll be brilliant in a film like The Descendants. I'd be more than happy to be wrong but I'm just not seeing it. |
I haven't seen Hamm in anything but this series.
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Hamm's guest starred in other TV shows and he's been a supporting actor here and there. He also starred in a Disney movie. |
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7 seasons and Don never boffed Joan. Son, I am disappoint.
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OK, proud to announce that I have ripped through season 7 and ready for tonight's finale.
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Did anyone else think Don testing the window in his new office (ep11 or 12 can't remember) was a nod to the opening credits? Or maybe even foreshadowing... :hmmm:
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I've been rewatching through AMC all week. |
AMC's audio is still cutting out on my end.
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Or more generally, just showing that Don's mindset was on escaping the current situation. |
Here. We. Go.
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I love Meredith.
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Audio drop #2. #1 was during the title cards.
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Uverse has completely crashed.
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....... I don't even know why I bother trying to watch anymore. **** this shit.
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Like, I try not to get pissed off about stuff that isn't of any serious consequence but this is just maddening.
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**** you, Weiner.
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What a load of shit
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That sucked ass.
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All we get from the Don story arc is a hippie commune/EST seminar?
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Like, I can appreciate that Don went on his little personal journey of self discovery and suddenly he got the idea for the greatest Coke ad ever....it's cute...but it's still a shitty way to end the series.
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Matthew Weiner, you just made the Danny McGrath list
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The finale totally met my expectations, the problem is that I expected to be disappointed.
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Gee. Can't wait to see it.
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I mean I'm not surprised. But...
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ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME.
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The ending was predicted, too.
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... oh my god... Just ... why...?
This isn't dramatic it's just... confusing? |
I will say this, there's a certain poetry to Don's wife dying because she smoked too many cigarettes, and now apparently he's off to peddle Coke to give the world diabetes.
Evil mother****er. Maybe Sally will get fat. |
So the implication is
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**** it. The series truly ended the moment the door magically shut on a waving Bert Cooper.
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I haven't seen the actual end yet, but I'm loving this episode 48 minutes in. No issues or complaints at all.
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I thought it was an excellent end to an excellent series.
Everyone's story was neatly wrapped up, although Sally Draper in the kitchen, like her mother, was a little disappointing because before her mother's diagnosis, her future was so promising (although it was foreshadowed by Don's speech to her before she got on the bus with her friends). And now I know who to blame for that horrible song growing up. :D |
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i thought it would end with don draper, 80 + years old, still writing copy for McCann Erickson and writing the best superbowl commercial ever as the chiefs win superbowl 50
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The point was that you couldn't use your own thoughts
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chill out
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks, Don. About time you came up with a good idea. <a href="https://t.co/0IdUE4KFoR">https://t.co/0IdUE4KFoR</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MadMen?src=hash">#MadMen</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MadMenFinale?src=hash">#MadMenFinale</a></p>— McCann (@McCann_WW) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCann_WW/status/600139668382982144">May 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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LMAO I pretty sure I'm "chill" right now. FWIW, this thread is a pretty good read for recaps. |
Okay. I've slept on it.
I may not like the finale but now I understand it.
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It's not all good for everyone, because
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I liked it.
Yes, the end game was speculated on quite a bit, but props to Wiener that he stuck to his storyline despite that. I got good closure on everyone, though I found myself wanting to know more than any other character on tv before - what happened to them all. Did Peggy get her CD job? Did Don actually become whole and become a better man because of it? Did Pete get laid off at Lear Jet? |
Peggy's fairy tale ending was finally getting a man? Some feminist character
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Weiner apparently is going to give ONE interview to discuss the final ep, Wednesday in New York. It will be interesting to see if he reveals how deep the final shot goes.
Is it, on the surface, Don finding his inner peace, and the Coke ad is emblematic of it? Did Don use this new self-realization to craft the Coke ad after returning to McCann-Erickson? Or was Don's smile at the end his cynical realization that he could market this hippy crap to the masses -- with "The Real Thing" a supremely ironic statement about just how phony Don and his world really are? |
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If it's different from my interpretation, it would take away some of the magic of the series. |
I cried when Don hugged the man in the encounter group for some reason.
I'm glad Peggy found love just it seemed so sudden for it to be Stan. Don't know whey Ted, who wound up divorced anyways, wasn't the one. Don't see why a feminist character can't find love in their lives. At least Stan, due to his profession, is someone who'd be more understanding about the demands the ad profession puts on people. Mean's Mom is weird. I hated her for taking all of Don's furniture. I loved Megan as a character but changed my mind about her after accepting a million dollars from Don. How much was he worth? Couldn't been a whole lot more than a million. Joan, the sexpot woman winds up a feminist staking out her own path. Richard, should know better as an older retired man, to expect a young woman to just give everything up. And if she didn't have a child, he probably wouldn't have wanted her to have one either. I would have liked to see how Megan ended up as an actress. |
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I was waiting for a Mr. Roberts/Col. Henry Blake moment when Pete and his family got on that Learjet. :evil:
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According to that article, Don, Roger and Bert got about $5 million each when they sold to McCann. |
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This whole finale had a BSG finale feel to it. |
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BTW I think Megan deserved something as her part in that soap was written out and she became unemployed when she decided to stick with Don but he didn't go to Cali with her afterall. Wonder how much she lost in earnings from that?
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I just read your link LMAO at Harry's share.
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Alternate finale endings for the characters of Mad Men...
Joan & boyfriend: They end up cocaine addicts after that first taste (Coke ad irony), blow their fortunes on blow within 3 years, and end up homeless dregs with perforated nasal septums, roaming SoCal for their next fix. Joan turns to porn to get cocaine money. Peggy: Stan never says the magic words and she ends up a powerful creative executive spinster with 15 cats. Stan ends up lonely, never admitting his love for Peggy, turns to booze & masturbation. Roger & Marie: He suffers a coronary during sex with her and dies. She bounces to the next man, gold-digging her way through life. (Alternate ending: They get married, she poisons him to death, she gets everything) Pete & wife: The Learjet goes down in flames. Betty: Dies, but the corpse is gorgeous, according to her wishes. Henry: Donates his fortune to cancer research. Hobart: Company is the target of a hostile takeover by Gordon Gecko, commits suicide by jumping out office window.\ Megan: Failed as an actress, she turns to porn, befriends Joan on a shoot, who's now doing porn for coke money for her & boyfriend. Glen: Shot in Vietnam by his own fellow soldiers for being creepy. Cutler: Gets caught with child porn, ends up in prison getting gang-raped. Crane: Finally gets that class-action sexual harassment lawsuit he's been begging for. Cosgrove: Finds he has a talent for playing pirates and goes on to be the model of the animatronic pirates for Disneyland. Don: Accidentally saves Hugh Hefner's life, lands a freelance creative gig with Playboy, spends his life bedding Playmates, boozing, smoking...and really having a good time. |
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I saw Peggy and Stan as brother and sister, so that kiss was very very very weird to me. I liked the finally. Much like Donald Glover, I just couldnt understand Don's motivations and career choices during the last season.
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"Probably the most famous print ad of all time." Ken Cosgrove. http://www.directmarketinginstitute....shirt%20ad.jpg http://www.directmarketinginstitute....wayShirtAd.htm The great advertising pioneer David Ogilvy ran through 18 concepts for shirt-maker client Hathaway's ad campaign before deciding on Baron Wrangell, "The Man with the Eye Patch." |
I'm happy with the series finale. Maybe the bar is so low from so many disappointing finales?
Expected no closure for Don. He has always been adrift. Peggy deserves happiness if they are going to give it to Pete. Roger is where he should be. everyone thinks its Don that does the Coca-Cola ad? I thought it was maybe Peggy? Not really important though. |
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While Don didn't really change his philandering ways during the 60's, he did change as a person, experiencing the highs and lows of sex, drugs, racial tension and high society of that era. In 1971, he changes again, this time to a California "hippie", complete with yoga and spiritual retreats, while embracing his inner Don/Dick. It would be fun to see Don Draper in the excess of the 80's "me" generation and his reaction to it. |
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At any rate, I've been rewatching the whole series again, and there was so much forethought put into this show. Weiner obviously had this thing written from beginning to end. It's kind of fun to notice things that didn't seem to serve any purpose at the time, but foreshadowed much later events. One of the best tv shows ever, really. |
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I truly believe that Weiner had the beginning and ending for Don's character mapped before shooting ever began. And as you mentioned, it's certainly of the best television series, ever, and for me, the finale was very satisfying. |
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For that matter, I think the show gave us plenty of closure on Don. He is who he is. He makes the same mistakes and follows the same patterns, over and over and over. All throughout the show he's been a man who needs to wander off and lose himself in order to move forward. He's a man who can have a legitimate emotional revelation at the hippie new-age camp AND use that as inspiration for an ad campaign. It's a cynical ending, not an ambiguous one. The closure comes in Don's seeming acceptance, finally, of who he is (no matter the name used). Though that acceptance, like any of Don's big life choices, will probably be short lived. But he'll always land on his feet. And he'll always find in his experiences a way to sell something. It's who he is. |
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