China May have found sat. images on Sunday of the wreck - being released today

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...tellite-images

I vaguely remember that. It was weird.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_D._Button

Was he really a member of the Gay Air National Guard? This article mentions a girlfriend.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...00-pound-bombs

Craig Button wasn't gay
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/25/us...l-anguish.html

At the time they said that he was in a same sex relationship that went sour because his partner wanted to be out, but the military and his mom wouldn't accept it. Funny how the story changes.

Dying in a plane crash can really change a man.

no, there were unsubstantiated rumors of that, but the investigation dispelled it.

Now it seems that the plane transmitted Engine Data back to rolls Royce for ~4-5hours after the last confirmed location - perhaps traveling up to 2,200 nautical miles

it could be anywhere in this circle
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BilRYRiCYAAiRmV.jpg:large

Fox News is reporting within the last hour that no debris was found at the location of the Chinese satellite images either.

This thing is taking an even more bizarre turn, if that was possible.

So no debris found and it apparently flew a further 5 hrs. than previously thought....holy shit just when you believed this couldn't get any more weird...

The Clayton Hartwig incident aboard the USS Iowa was supposed to be about a homosexual relationship, but they changed that one up too. I think the military just denies and omits it from the reports. I think both cases were correct from the beginning, but then again the media originally said Zimmerman was white. Who knows.

that's a big circle.

it makes me wonder if they could have had a situation similar to Payne Stewart where everyone lost consciousness on the plane.

looking at that Circle, wouldn't the land-based radars have picked them up if they were crossing any of the land masses?

Yes they would, especially something as big as a 777. I have flown international on a 777, they are ****ing huge...

Depends how low it was flying. It's tricky to fly a jumbo that low especially over that terrain.
They're now saying that atleast 1 of the planes engines checked in and reported it was doing 480 knots for 4 hours after contact was lost with the Cabin and by radar. Speculation is now that it could possibly have landed in Pakistan.
Fascinating mystery. Astonishing how inept Malaysia and her neighbors are.

Based on this quote alone its range would of decreased by 60-70%.

Think about this, the jet I fly burns around 1350 lbs a fuel per hour per side at 3000 ft. Yet at 41000 feet we burn around 575lbs per hour per side.

2700 lbs at 3000 feet per hour
1150 lbs at 41000 feet per hour

So the lower the big heavy 777 flies with 2 engines having to produce more power/thrust to push it through the air heavier denser air. It will probably burn 3 times the fuel than at cruise altitude, if not more.

I don't know the burn rates of the 777, just understand air density and turbine engines fuel burn rates.


Lower ='s dramatically decrease in range
Higher ='s normal cruise range

That is just under the prototypical cruising speed for a 777.

Although, if it was flying low (CAT I/II) the fuel burn rate would be very high. Enough to burn at 4hrs at almost cruising speed? Depends on how much fuel was in that A/C.

I work in the airline industry & this has people stumped big time. More & more people are slowly thinking, maybe this bird is on the ground somewhere?