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penbrook 04-07-2013 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9566833)
Again if we use the same reasons we do for why geno doesn't fit, based on Reid's history, how does joeckel fit? He's not a big physical lt. Doesn't have elite measurables either.


If they take a lt, i don't see it being him
Agree.

penbrook 04-07-2013 09:23 PM
According to NationalFootballPost us and the Jags are showing the most ibterest in Geno

RunKC 04-07-2013 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9566826)
No, you're not answering his question.

His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.

I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.

Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.

So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.

(This happens to be my thinking as well)

His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?

Is that a fair characterization SNR?
We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-07-2013 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566811)
We are drafting BPA and Joeckel is the BPA. Him or Fisher. One of the LT's, unless we can't trade Albert.

We don't trade Albert and it's Dion Jordan time.
rofl. "Joekel is the BPA". You smoke some good shit, Chong.
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keg in kc 04-07-2013 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566846)
We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.

O.city 04-07-2013 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566835)
I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a LT and keep Albert regardless.

QB is not a need now. We have our guy. And he's going to be here awhile. Let it go.
You've become the most transparent guy on cp. I never argued for a qb. Take that up with snr.

You throw it at the geno guys for turning every thread into geno stuff, but everytime someone legitimately tries to talk about a prospect they don't like for a legit reason , you bring out the "they aren't taking geno, get over it" mantra thus throwin the thread.

You agree with whatever move the regime makes. That's fine. But about a month ago you talked about how disappointing it would be to take a lt bla bla. It's obvious to see how you feel on the matter, which again is fine.

But enough with the running down others when we try to have a legit discussion about something because you don't like it

penbrook 04-07-2013 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566846)
We have our QB. Our coach wanted him. Bad. And it's obvious that he thinks that it's not a need.

They are trying to win NOW. And LT is a huge piece to Reid's offense.
Thats why we have a top 10 LT in Albert. If they plan to win now you stick with Albert. If you draft a rookie you arent planning to win now.

Dorsey makes the final call. Actually the power structure is Hunt > Dorsey > Reid. And both Clark and John both really like Geno.

This isnt gonna end well for you.

RunKC 04-07-2013 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9566857)
You're still avoiding the question.

As a side note, let's say LT is a huge piece, and let's say our coach wanted the QB "bad", then why go with a rookie? Doesn't seem like a logical choice for protecting your prized investment.
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.

O.city 04-07-2013 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566867)
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Based on?

penbrook 04-07-2013 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566867)
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.

Reids not making the call come draft day. Dorsey is and he even said so.

RunKC 04-07-2013 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9566860)
You've become the most transparent guy on cp. I never argued for a qb. Take that up with snr.

You throw it at the geno guys for turning every thread into geno stuff, but everytime someone legitimately tries to talk about a prospect they don't like for a legit reason , you bring out the "they aren't taking geno, get over it" mantra thus throwin the thread.

You agree with whatever move the regime makes. That's fine. But about a month ago you talked about how disappointing it would be to take a lt bla bla. It's obvious to see how you feel on the matter, which again is fine.

But enough with the running down others when we try to have a legit discussion about something because you don't like it
I'm tired of this Geno shit ruining every thread.

This has been going on since September. It's like a guy getting broken up with by his gf and he won't shut up and move on from it after 8 months and they talk to you about it every single day.

And the dumbest part of this is that people are going to bitch about us not drafting Geno for months after we don't pick him.

O.city 04-07-2013 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9566880)
Your damn right but Dorsey and Hunt are.

Power structure goes Hunt > Dorsey > Reid.
No, it doesn't.

Maybe take a step away from the computer

keg in kc 04-07-2013 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9566867)
Honestly don't think Reid is that high on Geno as people on here believe.
I didn't mention Geno. My question was about the tackles and related more to Albert and the "win now" mentality. If they think they can win with Alex Smith, and we have a franchised LT who's already a proven player in the league (and who Andy Reid has supported very openly and publicly for years), then why are we (fans) even talking about drafting a LT? It wouldn't make any logical sense to endanger our star QB Alex Smith, or the potential for winning immediately, by starting a rookie LT.

RunKC 04-07-2013 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9566875)
Based on?
Uh we traded multiple high picks for a QB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-07-2013 09:33 PM
All I know is this; Andy got what he wanted before the draft. Welp, guess who's turn it is on draft day to get what HE wants, mother****ers? And I guran****ingtee you that the man who places a premium on stacking the deck at the QB position, the man who had a hand in the taking and development of A~Rodg(like that shit, bitches?), will NOT have his sights set on a non-generational sack of mule dung like Luke "Sta-Puff" Jokel. Deal with it.
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