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TimBone 04-06-2014 06:51 PM

No way Cena turns heel.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 07:00 PM

They've been booking Husky Harris very well

E: ****ing terrible finish to a fantastic match. Wyatt's should of gone over.

TLO 04-06-2014 07:13 PM

All the 10 year olds can go home happy now.

Reaper16 04-06-2014 07:13 PM

If Cena won BECAUSE of the temptation to be evil, then that'd be good. Instead, Super Cena destroys the whole Wyatt Family. Pointless.

In case I have to preemptively say this: having babyfaces win EVERY match on the card except for the main event doesn't make a Orton/Batista victory OK.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 07:15 PM

Oh god Lesnar is about to kill a very old Undertaker

Spoiler!

TimBone 04-06-2014 07:18 PM

They're going to have the Divas match in between the Taker - Lesnar match and the Main Event? Talk about a buzzkill.

arrowheadnation 04-06-2014 07:19 PM

So basically, I can watch takers entrance and then take an hour to watch game of thrones and then come back to catch the end of the show.

Reaper16 04-06-2014 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10544519)
They're going to have the Divas match in between the Taker - Lesnar match and the Main Event? Talk about a buzzkill.

That/s on purpose. They WANT to cool the crowd down so they have some room to get worked back up again.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10544519)
They're going to have the Divas match in between the Taker - Lesnar match and the Main Event? Talk about a buzzkill.

Crowd needs a piss break before the Main Event.

TimBone 04-06-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10544526)
That/s on purpose. They WANT to cool the crowd down so they have some room to get worked back up again.

I guess it makes sense. Gives me to put the kid to bed as well.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 07:31 PM

Undertaker has been resting in peace inside a tanning bed for too long

Mr_Tomahawk 04-06-2014 07:39 PM

No streams?

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2014 07:44 PM

This needs to be the Takers last match.

bobhill 04-06-2014 07:45 PM

Womens title match between taker/lesnar and mainevent ? That poor planning on wwe for mania

bobhill 04-06-2014 07:46 PM

Kane should retire taker

Reaper16 04-06-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobhill (Post 10544582)
Womens title match between taker/lesnar and mainevent ? That poor planning on wwe for mania

Again, they need to have a cool down match before the main event or else the crowd won't get hot enough during the main event.

The classic example of failing to have a cool down match was HHH/Jericho right after Rock/Hogan. The crowd had nothing left to give for the main event because there was no time for them to recover.

Reaper16 04-06-2014 07:54 PM

Not that the crowd is that hot for this match, because it is largely awful.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 07:55 PM

holy ****ing what

TLO 04-06-2014 07:56 PM

My stream just gave out. What happened?

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10544608)
My stream just gave out. What happened?

Streak snapped.

bobhill 04-06-2014 07:59 PM

Your right Reaper 16 makes sense, they just screwed Undertaker

TLO 04-06-2014 07:59 PM

ERROR MESSAGES

GAHHHH.

Somebody talk to me. What's going on?

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 08:00 PM

It seems so bizarre to have someone who only wrestles a few times per year as the one to end the streak.

I don't get it

TLO 04-06-2014 08:01 PM

Oh man.

arrowheadnation 04-06-2014 08:01 PM

Sting shoulda broke the streak.

bobhill 04-06-2014 08:03 PM

Taker is dead. But they are pity clapping for him that's cool

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 10544622)
Sting shoulda broke the streak.

That's a weird way to spell Bray Wyatt.

Reaper16 04-06-2014 08:13 PM

Reports from the Superdome is that security guards are telling crying children that "its OK, that match doesn't count" just to console the shocked, stunned, sad people. It's maybe the second best way to end the streak? It's so unexpected.

WhiteWhale 04-06-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 10544622)
Sting shoulda broke the streak.

As a big fan of both guys when I was a kid, I really hope it does not happen.

It's like Farrah Fawcett in playboy when she's 50. Yeah, it's neat that we saw it, but it just makes me wish I had seen it when it would have been good.

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2014 08:20 PM

Props to taker for coming back to do that shit.

TimBone 04-06-2014 08:20 PM

The crowds reaction was priceless.

TimBone 04-06-2014 08:21 PM

Who wins the Main Event? In my mind Orton isn't even an option. It's either Bryant wins to keep from having a riot at the Superdome, or Batista wins because it was in his return contract.

arrowheadnation 04-06-2014 08:22 PM

Bryan wins with the help of CM Punk.

dirk digler 04-06-2014 08:23 PM

Has to be Bryan doesn't it?

Reaper16 04-06-2014 08:28 PM

They'd better send this crowd home happy, cuz the streak being conquered made them feel some kind of way.

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10544705)
They'd better send this crowd home happy, cuz the streak being conquered made them feel some kind of way.

It really deflated the crowd and show.

dirk digler 04-06-2014 08:51 PM

I don't believe it

Al Bundy 04-06-2014 08:51 PM

YES! YES! YES!

arrowheadnation 04-06-2014 08:55 PM

Best part of the night for me was Hogan, SCSA, and the Rock being in the ring at the same time.

TimBone 04-06-2014 08:56 PM

That was a good match. Props to Randy Orton. When he RKO'd Bryan on the table his own back landed hard on one of those little tv monitors.

Sassy Squatch 04-06-2014 09:13 PM

Solid event the whole way through. Holy **** Cesaro. And obligatory yes.

KCrockaholic 04-06-2014 09:23 PM

That Taker match was just sad, man. The guy didn't have it in him. Hopefully he's done.

58kcfan89 04-06-2014 09:27 PM

About a month ago, I thought this would be one of the worst WMs of all time. How wrong could I be?

I can't stand Hogan and was never a big mark for returning stars, but seeing Hogan, Austin & Rock in the same ring at the same time was very cool.

Bryan-Trips was a very good match to start the show. Cesaro needs a mega push. Wyatt shoulda beat Cena, but as long as Wyatt doesn't fall into the pool of jobbers who've been fed to Cena, I can live with it, I suppose.

I'm so happy for Bryan to finally get the belt, but I can't help but think it was overshadowed by Lesnar. I hope not, but I actually stood up and let out a "HOLY SHIT" after the bell rung. That was shocking.

I can count on one hand the number of times I've been legitimately shocked by pro wrestling. Lesnar over Taker is one of those times.

But overall, that was a pretty rad show. Only thing missing is my boy Punk coming back, but I'm not holding my breath for that one.

BigCatDaddy 04-06-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10544863)
That Taker match was just sad, man. The guy didn't have it in him. Hopefully he's done.

He deserved a better exit. It was a shit match with a shit ending. Should have hung it up after last year. I just hope they don't pull some rematch shit tomorrow night.

Jerm 04-06-2014 09:32 PM

Damn no replay on the network???

At work and couldn't watch....

KCrockaholic 04-06-2014 09:35 PM

Nothing will even come close to WM17 for me. This one was pretty average IMO. I'm not in full disappointment with it, but it wasn't spectacular in any way.

CoMoChief 04-06-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10544879)
Nothing will even come close to WM17 for me. This one was pretty average IMO. I'm not in full disappointment with it, but it wasn't spectacular in any way.

Oh that was the best WM ever man.....agreed.

Nothing like Rock n Austin in their prime....attitude era.

I still watch the promo to that....as well as the match on youtube.

JR is ****ing awesome.

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Reaper16 04-06-2014 09:48 PM

Guys, you know Taker wanted it this way, right? He's tried to get creative to let him lose the streak for years. He doesn't want that streak or his character to be bigger than pro wrestling itself, which is to say: you go out putting the somebody over.

It's just weird that Lesnar, a part-time performer, was the one to get that rub.

58kcfan89 04-06-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 10544879)
Nothing will even come close to WM17 for me. This one was pretty average IMO. I'm not in full disappointment with it, but it wasn't spectacular in any way.

It wasn't WM 17 good, but it wasn't that far off IMO. Lots of big moments between the opening segment, Lesnar over Taker and Bryan winning the belt(s).

Assuming they don't eff up the booking going forward, they've got new stars in Cesaro & Wyatt as well, so that's big. But to each his own, I suppose.

CoMoChief 04-06-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10544910)
Guys, you know Taker wanted it this way, right? He's tried to get creative to let him lose the streak for years. He doesn't want that streak or his character to be bigger than pro wrestling itself, which is to say: you go out putting the somebody over.

It's just weird that Lesnar, a part-time performer, was the one to get that rub.

Even with the streak continuing on, it was never something that was going to be bigger than the sport itself....same goes with his character. Dude was already a legend.

Hogan is the only person I know of that has legitimately tried to make his character bigger than the sport because he lived his own character 24/7. You ask anyone close to him that's worked with him or see anyone else's interviews when they're asked about Hogan they will all tell you his ego is notoriously bigger than everyone else's including Vince.

I just can't believe that they chose Lesnar..as the one to end it. Esp how WWE has managed Lesnar's story ever since he came back. Big bad tough UFC champ coming back as part MMA grappler, breaking people's arms, going nuts, then losing in the actual match. Now hes on the biggest stage as a part timer and he wins? WTF? So I agree on that part of your post.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10544910)
Guys, you know Taker wanted it this way, right? He's tried to get creative to let him lose the streak for years. He doesn't want that streak or his character to be bigger than pro wrestling itself, which is to say: you go out putting the somebody over.

It's just weird that Lesnar, a part-time performer, was the one to get that rub.

Brock wasn't even the guy Taker wanted to face.

TimBone 04-06-2014 10:21 PM

Why was the Shields match so short? During their intro I had to run into the kitchen to put some chicken in the slow cooker. It felt like I was gone five minutes. I come back in my room and the match is over. Those guys are too talented and too fun to watch for their match to be so short.

58kcfan89 04-06-2014 10:32 PM

Consider how many stars have retired with a win. Edge, who was a surprise retirement because of his neck.... Anyone else?

It's pretty customary to put someone over on the way out. Taker knew that, and I'm sure he didn't want to be known as the guy who wouldn't put someone over before he retired. I think it's a valid complaint that Brock's a part-timer, but I'm not going to throw a shit fit over it.

My only worry is that Lesnar's win will overshadow Bryan winning the belt(s). Streak match seems to be what everyone's talking about.

Reaper16 04-06-2014 10:50 PM

Bryan vs Lesnar at SummerSlam is going to be insane.

Sassy Squatch 04-06-2014 10:51 PM

They probably want Lesnar to overshadow Bryan. Those 2 are probably going to feud now for the WWE championship and Bryan will still be the underdog.

58kcfan89 04-06-2014 10:57 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I only have two words: THANK YOU</p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/453025204348809216">April 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 10545007)
They probably want Lesnar to overshadow Bryan. Those 2 are probably going to feud now for the WWE championship and Bryan will still be the underdog.

Which will be an awesome feud.

I'm looking at a more long-term view of the show and how we'll remember it 5 years from now. I'm hoping we remember it as Bryan's breakout moment rather than just the streak being broken.

Sassy Squatch 04-06-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 10545014)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I only have two words: THANK YOU</p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/453025204348809216">April 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Which will be an awesome feud.

I'm looking at a more long-term view of the show and how we'll remember it 5 years from now. I'm hoping we remember it as Bryan's breakout moment rather than just the streak being broken.

Bryan will be just fine. He's pretty much cemented as star #2 or even #1b in the company.

Jerm 04-06-2014 11:07 PM

Replay is up on the network now, thank God...

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flybone McTimmerson (Post 10544969)
Why was the Shields match so short? During their intro I had to run into the kitchen to put some chicken in the slow cooker. It felt like I was gone five minutes. I come back in my room and the match is over. Those guys are too talented and too fun to watch for their match to be so short.

Intro was long, nobody gives a **** about the new age outlaws

Squash match was appropriate. They can't really wrestle long without looking like total shit and Billy Gunn was coughing up blood after the squash.

TimBone 04-06-2014 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10545034)
Intro was long, nobody gives a **** about the new age outlaws

Squash match was appropriate.

I know...I hated the whole feud. The Shield deserved better. I just think they're too talented to be used like that.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 11:19 PM

I think they were just a casualty from the slimmed down WM30 card.

They had a lot of problems with running on time last year, so it seems they focused heavily on not having that problem yet again.

TimBone 04-06-2014 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10545049)
I think they were just a casualty from the slimmed down WM30 card.

They had a lot of problems with running on time last year, so it seems they focused heavily on not having that problem yet again.

Makes sense. I am glad that the Shield didn't split tonight like I thought they might. There is still story lines for them as a faction.

BryanBusby 04-06-2014 11:31 PM

Also, HHH has been fantastic the last month or so.

He basically did a shoot on all the smarks, made a big parody of himself and cleanly put over a guy that nobody thought he'd ever put over cleanly. His match was also the best one he's had at Wrestlemania in awhile.

Jerm 04-07-2014 12:33 AM

His entrance was awesome too...that was a damn good old school match and it was great to see him put over Bryan cleanly.

Oh and Cesaro is God...

TimBone 04-07-2014 01:04 AM

I thought the same things about HHH. I texted my brother after the HHH vs. Bryan match that HHH had done a good job with this whole situation especially the match. A clean win for Bryan was a must. I'm glad he realized that.

Jerm 04-07-2014 01:55 AM

After watching the actual match (which was beyond awful), Brock breaking the streak is one of the WORST single booking decisions ever.

TimBone 04-07-2014 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10545113)
After watching the actual match (which was beyond awful), Brock breaking the streak is one of the WORST single booking decisions ever.

How so? I'm sure the Undertaker is retiring.

B_Razz 04-07-2014 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10545113)
After watching the actual match (which was beyond awful), Brock breaking the streak is one of the WORST single booking decisions ever.

I couldn't disagree more. I am happy it ended. :clap: I do agree the match was slow however but thats because people never thought the streak was going to end so they didn't buy into it this time. I think that might of been the best time to end it and shock everyone. I can't wait to see what they do next with Lesnar.

Jerm 04-07-2014 02:16 AM

You could've used that win to give the ultimate rub to a Bray Wyatt or a Cesaro...Brock didn't need it.

Beyond dumb.

Oh and MOTHER**** John Cena for not putting over Wyatt. So sick of that POS.

BryanBusby 04-07-2014 03:51 AM

I think the ending of the streak was a long-thought plan, hence why the original plan was for Undertaker to be facing Daniel Bryan at WM. Than the whole CM Punk thing happened.

I'm fine with the streak ending, as it has ran its course. Having Brock Lesnar end it? Well, it's really going to depend on what they have planned for him. To be fair, it's not like they gave it to Cena but yeesh.

Cena burying the entire Wyatt family while RAPADOOO'ing his way to a win for the 56545456547467th time was absolutely brutal and it ruined a storyline that could of been legitimately huge. I think that finish really hampered what was shaping up to be a top 5 WM.

But I guess they wanted to make the kids happy before the upcoming mind**** they were about to receive.

We can argue if Brock was worthy or not, but I don't think anyone could argue that 21-1 wasn't the biggest shocker in professional wrestling since Hulk Hogan did the leg drop back @ Bash at the Beach in 1996. Everyone was super complacent about the streak and nobody believed Lesnar was going to win. Vince played the whole scene excellently, right down to the major delay of Brock's theme music after the pin. Heymans reaction was the cherry on the top.

Chiefs=Champions 04-07-2014 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10545128)
I think the ending of the streak was a long-thought plan, hence why the original plan was for Undertaker to be facing Daniel Bryan at WM. Than the whole CM Punk thing happened.

That was never the plan.

BryanBusby 04-07-2014 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 10545130)
That was never the plan.

I could be getting things mixed up, but I thought the plan was for CM Punk to face HHH and for DB to face Taker and that Taker specifically requested to face DB.

Chiefs=Champions 04-07-2014 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10545132)
I could be getting things mixed up, but I thought the plan was for CM Punk to face HHH and for DB to face Taker and that Taker specifically requested to face DB.

Originally punk was going to face trips. But undertaker vs brock has been planned for about a year.

Chiefs=Champions 04-07-2014 04:21 AM

Actually bryan was rumored to face sheamus before cm punk left.

Chiefs=Champions 04-07-2014 04:25 AM

At the end of the day, I would much rather the streak ended the way it did than having cena beat it. I feel like that is what the wwe wanted, but taker didn't. Its a pitty that punk didn't want to end it. Things may have turned out a lot different in that situation.

Sassy Squatch 04-07-2014 04:59 AM

Taker requested to face Bryan. That's it. It was never in the plans to actually have that match

Reaper16 04-07-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 10545063)
Also, HHH has been fantastic the last month or so.

He basically did a shoot on all the smarks, made a big parody of himself and cleanly put over a guy that nobody thought he'd ever put over cleanly. His match was also the best one he's had at Wrestlemania in awhile.

This is exactly correct.

Reaper16 04-07-2014 08:00 AM

The Cena/Wyatt finish was the worst part of Mania by far to me. But seeing as WWE was just rewarded by fans, critics, and media for patiently paying off a year's worth of storytelling last night by crowning Daniel Bryan, I'm hoping that WWE is thinking long-term with Cena and Wyatt too.

They established a really interesting vibe last night with Bray being The Joker to Cena's Batman. Sure, Cena won last night by staying true to his moral center despite temptation. But what if that temptation stays with Cena? What if Cena has to struggle over the coming months to keep his inner monster at bay? Bray Wyatt lost the match, but storyline wise he COULD, if WWE chooses to, come much closer to winning the overall feud.

TLO 04-07-2014 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 10545099)
Oh and Cesaro is God...

I'm a casual fan, but that made me stand up and say "WOW".

Will RAW have any of the big guys in matches tonight? Or will they be resting up?

TLO 04-07-2014 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10545261)
The Cena/Wyatt finish was the worst part of Mania by far to me. But seeing as WWE was just rewarded by fans, critics, and media for patiently paying off a year's worth of storytelling last night by crowning Daniel Bryan, I'm hoping that WWE is thinking long-term with Cena and Wyatt too.

They established a really interesting vibe last night with Bray being The Joker to Cena's Batman. Sure, Cena won last night by staying true to his moral center despite temptation. But what if that temptation stays with Cena? What if Cena has to struggle over the coming months to keep his inner monster at bay? Bray Wyatt lost the match, but storyline wise he COULD, if WWE chooses to, come much closer to winning the overall feud.

Agreed. WWE is starting to grab my interest again.


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