I like Lewan a lot.

I'd rather tag Albert, take our QB this year, and then look at LT next year if needed.

What the **** is wrong with you?

We should let Albert walk, draft Joeckel this year, and then draft Lewan and move Joeckel to RT next year.

That's the only true fan way to do it.

Sorry, I don't know what got into me.

The only problem with drafting Joeckel is that I don't know how we would get Warmack too. Maybe we could trade down, take Fisher and then take Warmack.

I'm only approving this if we can trade our 2015 and 2016 1st to trade up for Jones (Alabama)

Hell, Matt Cassel might be able to complete a 25 yard Hail Mary behind that line.

I hear that Roger Goddel will continue making rules to aid the offense. Balls that bounce off the goal posts will be in play. Cassel could be an all pro now.

Key word there.

It's too risky to try a 25yd hail mary. We should probably just stick to a 10yd one.

God knows we don't want him attempting any screen passes.

Eric Weddle and Boxxy disagree.

Benjamin Allbright ‏@NFLDraftMonster

@ECStoner @sbramhall71 @ChrisHansenNFL Albert hasnt cleared medical (back) yet...

Why would he need to pass a medical yet?

TMK the only times they need to pass something like that are the beginning of training camp and to finalize a contract.

@bkissel7: @NFLDraftMonster @ECStoner @sbramhall71 @ChrisHansenNFL he's doing full workouts right now. Back isn't holding him out of anything.

@NFLDraftMonster: @bkissel7 @ECStoner @sbramhall71 @ChrisHansenNFL sounds promising then. When he sched to meet with team again?

Every player gets a end of season physical.

Who is bkissel7?

I think he's the arrowhead pride guy not sure tho

Arrowhead pride guy.

We're gonna know in the next few days whether or not he passed his physical.

This shit is about to get real. The Joeckel talk will be DEAD.

How does an arrowhead pride guy know that Albert is doing full workouts and that his back isn't an issue?

Not a chance. Even if we re-sign Albert to a 6 year deal, dumbasses will still mock us Joeckel and parade around with the "Albert to guard" talk...and mock Geno to Oakland.

And then the Jarvis Jones talk will resume.

I'd rather take Milliner than ****ing Jones.

I'm guessing he's going off that Albert interview with 610.

But by the point, it will be painfully obvious that they're just dumbasses.

Have a little faith you guys. As we move through February the talk will heat up.

The Geno train is gaining steam.

Oh I have faith. I fully expect Geno to rise to the top.

It's going to be glorious to watch all of the "fans" hop onto his dick as soon as Kiper and McShay do.

Yep. :D

Sources on the team.

If the way to mock us a non qb, fine. But to lead off with "the chiefs have the worst qb situation in te nfl, but not one worth it" only to follow up with a qb at 3, that's what's asinine.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Do me a favor everyone stay calm lol</p>&mdash; Branden Albert (@Balbert76) <a href="https://twitter.com/Balbert76/status/294605595057737729">January 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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That tweet says nothing.

I heard something even dumber today - tag and trade Albert for 1st round pick and then use the #1 overall on Joeckel.

:facepalm:

So essentially, you are trading from #1 to a mid to low first round pick for nothing.

By the way, when can teams start negotiating with their FAs? After the Superbowl?

Now

This fan base has drank way too much antifreeze over the years.

Maybe we should stop suggesting it...

Yep.

I would imagine they're already talking to Albert's agent.

He said the two sides were talking when he called in to 610, but that they were just starting talks.

Well, this thread was started 1/22, so they've been talking for almost a week and a half.

It shouldn't be difficult to complete, at all. His agent should use Duane Brown's contract as the starting point with the knowledge that he'll receive a bit less.

Done deal.

Thanks. I thought there was some restrictions about negotiating during the season but wasn't sure when that ended.

I agree.

I just hope they're not talking about moving him to guard or something equally ****ing stupid.

I can't even imagine that would even come up. If so, Albert walks. And I highly doubt that Andy Reid and John Dorsey will allow that to happen.

Surely not. Reid wanted him a a lt before right?

Don't know if he wanted him specifically to play tackle.

But they were definitely trying to trade up to get him.

Well I doubt they would trade up for a guard

The difficulty with contracts for left tackles right now is there are three upper echelon ones that are scheduled to hit FA this year in Clady, Albert and Long.

None of their agents are gonna want to be the one that agrees to the first deal and Cladys agent already turned down a 5yr 50 million dollar deal a couple months back.

Hopefully, the Chiefs come to an acceptable agreement with Albert, but I don't think this is gonna be as easy as some might think.

Lets say Albert agrees to a 6yr 58 million dollar contract (that's the amount where I think he will sign) and a couple weeks later, Clady signs for 5yrs 60 million.

Alberts agent isn't gonna have an easy time signing future clients because he got Albert "underpaid".

That's an interesting angle. :hmmm:

This is virtually impossible.

Duane Brown is the best left tackle in the NFL. All-Pro, Pro Bowler, 2nd team All-Pro in 2011. Best, bar none.

In August 2012, Brown signed a 6 year, $53.4 million dollar deal. There's no ****ing way, especially with a flat cap, that Clady or Albert can expect to receive a bigger contract offer.

None, zip, zero. Won't happen.

Carr got more money then Revis. Clady will get more money then Brown.

Big difference.

Brown signed his contract less than 6 months ago.

Revis signed his contract over 2 years ago.

We can speculate all we want, the FACT is that Ryan Clady TURNED DOWN a 5year 50 million dollar contract with Denver.

These guys are gonna want more than Duane Brown.

Speculation.

FACT: Duane Brown got 6 years 53 million
FACT: Ryan Clady TURNED DOWN A SUPERIOR OFFER ALREADY.

There was no speculation in my post.

Continue to argue the poster though...

Considering you said "these guys".....yeah....there was speculation. You have no idea what Albert would or would not turn down.

How much guaranteed money was in that offer?

I don't give a flying **** if Clady or Albert "want" more than Duane Brown. Any GM that would give into those demands is a moron.

The market's been set.

You think Alberts' agent is gonna bend over and take less money when the two players came from the same draft and have comparable results?

If he does, he won't get many tackles calling him to represent them in the future.

See below.

Market is set at QB but i bet Flacco gets top 5 money.

The Broncos made the offer that was turned down and it was reported in te media.

The deal was for less years and comparable total amount to Browns deal.

His agent is making a statement that Brown got underpaid.

They said on the herd that Flaccos agent wants 20 million per and won't take less.

Right on top of it. Beat me to it. And Clady is a ****ing idiot for turning that deal down unless it was just a joke in guaranteed money. Albert would've already had that offer sheet signed if it was offered to him from where I'm sitting.

Clady's agent is a ****ing moron.

Or it could have had different language written into it that Clady and his agent didn't like.

He completely screwed himself because he rejected that offer before Duane Brown agreed to terms in August 2012.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/broncos...5981--nfl.html

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) -- Ryan Clady rejected both a $50 million offer and the chance to talk about it.

The Denver Broncos and the two-time Pro Bowl left tackle, who will play a crucial role in protecting Peyton Manning's blind side this season, ended talks Monday on a contract extension until after the 2012 season.

I agree, Flop. If I'm Albert and they put a carbon copy of Duane Browns deal in front of me to sign, I'm putting ink to paper and throwing a party that night.

The offer was made before Brown signed his deal.

Clady ****ed himself.

When Brown signed his deal the Texans only had $3.5 million in cap space maybe he didn't wanna **** his team and took less.

Which is it...

And honestly, as a fan I'm ****ing thrilled with it if his back checks out.

Thank you from the rest of the league.

If Albert's back checks out, I predict he gets signed long term and Clady gets franchised.

Or he (as pest pointed out) recognized that part of the contract wasn't attractive and wanted to push the supply and demand factor of the blindside protector of Peyton "broke neck" Manning.

What are the Broncos gonna do?

Let him walk and let someone else protect Manning?

He KNOWS they will overpay.

No ****ing way.

No player is going to take less, especially the best player in the league at his position, is going to accept a lesser contract to "help" the team.

Business is business.

It's a FLAT cap. There won't be more money available in 2013 than there was in 2012. Plus, the Broncos owe Manning a huge chunk this year AND Clady's having shoulder surgery next week.

Clady ****ed himself. He played chicken and lost.

What I'd do?...or what Clady would?

Clady has Denver by the balls and he knows it. He's gonna be the highest paid LT soon cause of Manning.

The cap is scheduled to rise in two years and do so significantly. Agents now this...maybe the agents want those years to be paid accordingly. If I was an went, that would be part of my pitch.

Not sure why this is so hard for some to see.

Denver doesn't really have options (besides franchising him) outside of paying Clady like Joe Thomas or something between his deal and that of Duane Browns deal.

The Broncos would be absolutely foolish to overpay a guy coming off of shoulder surgery, especially when he's not considered the best at his position in the NFL.

I doubt Elway's that stupid.

I don't think Denver cares. Manning improves LT play dramatically. I'm sure that they think if Clady is asking for too much, they aren't going to lose sleep over it.