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keg in kc 02-28-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14128186)
Yeah, I can't listen to the whole thing. I heard some bits and pieces.

Interdimensional beings making half human half pigs and shit. I dunno, he's a looney toon.

Don't you mean looney tune?

mr. tegu 02-28-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14129239)
Well this def. sounds interesting....know of any documentaries about this?


YouTube has quite a few but I can’t say specifically which are the best as it relates to the original book. Many believe the project is an ongoing collaboration, including Len Kasten, the author. He appears on radio shows like Coast to Coast and others so any videos with him being interviewed are interesting and informative.

The original source was the diary of one of the people who first went. He describes everything from their culture to history to technology. Really a lot of content that seems believable.

These few seem to be a good start to the general concepts with Len Kasten being interviewed.

https://youtu.be/yMmIFPA9pNQ

https://youtu.be/tqUccJTNTvA

O.city 02-28-2019 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14129347)
Don't you mean looney tune?

I actually wasn’t sure on the spelling with that. I thought about it for a minute lol

O.city 02-28-2019 08:39 PM

Read up on the Serpo stuff.

Interesting but man, I just don’t know about something like that. There’s just too much to keep quiet

ToxSocks 03-19-2019 01:02 PM

Creepy, or nothing abnormal?

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RN47 03-20-2019 08:01 AM

Hmm. I went to big screen and watched a few times...looks a little hokey to me.

keg in kc 05-15-2019 07:57 AM

Stanton Friedman passed away this week. While I didn't always agree, he was hands down my favorite nuts-and-bolts UFO lecturer, for years and years.

ToxSocks 05-15-2019 01:52 PM

Serpent sea monster or something else? (Serpent looking creature @ 30sec-ish mark)

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Easy 6 05-15-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14268956)
Stanton Friedman passed away this week. While I didn't always agree, he was hands down my favorite nuts-and-bolts UFO lecturer, for years and years.

Oh wow, I hadn’t heard... RIP

He was an unapologetic stalwart with the credentials to back it up

Bowser 05-15-2019 08:47 PM

Stumbled on to this video and actually thought of this thread a couple of days ago. Thoughts on this?

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And if you REALLY want some unexplained and esoteric, give this a whirl -

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Sweet Daddy Hate 05-15-2019 11:24 PM

Anybody know anything about the equipment that is used to change the visual spectrum to different frequencies and or wavelengths for filming or recording?
Does anyone here have any experience with that?

keg in kc 05-15-2019 11:31 PM

CERN has been hot button in conspiracy circles for years. You can really fine some weird shit if you dive in on that one. Like 'science' side folks thinking they're gonna open a black hole that eats the earth to 'religious' side folks saying they're trying to break the seven seals and open a door to hell. Genius loci and bringing down the pillars of eternity or creation or whatever and unleashing baphoment on the world.

O.city 05-16-2019 06:44 AM

Yeah, CERN doesn’t quite do it for me.

It’s scientifically really cool but other than that it’s just ignorant people saying dumb shit

Rausch 05-16-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 14127802)
did they talk about 'machine elves'?

I hate that term but there's a lot to that...

Bowser 05-18-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14270545)
CERN has been hot button in conspiracy circles for years. You can really fine some weird shit if you dive in on that one. Like 'science' side folks thinking they're gonna open a black hole that eats the earth to 'religious' side folks saying they're trying to break the seven seals and open a door to hell. Genius loci and bringing down the pillars of eternity or creation or whatever and unleashing baphoment on the world.

I went a little ways down that particular rabbit hole. The craziest theory I heard was that CERN was to be used to open a doorway to Saturn to free the entities trapped (or banished) on that planet. And also, Saturn has been sending a steady stream of radio waves towards Earth for years which the Moon picks up and amplifies towards us, speaking with who knows whom.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-18-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14274706)
I went a little ways down that particular rabbit hole. The craziest theory I heard was that CERN was to be used to open a doorway to Saturn to free the entities trapped (or banished) on that planet. And also, Saturn has been sending a steady stream of radio waves towards Earth for years which the Moon picks up and amplifies towards us, speaking with who knows whom.

There's so many things out there that it's incredibly hard to try and sort fact from fiction. Back in the early 2000s, I came upon a website called wingmakers. this thing was as fleshed-out and loaded with factoids as you could possibly imagine, just like so many other things that are out there on the net right now. This person put a lot of work into it.

It turned out that the whole thing was nothing but marketing for his new age music


ROFL

Fishpicker 05-18-2019 10:02 PM

hey gang, what do you all think of the Mandela effect? the only thing I noticed was the obvious Star Wars line changes and Frazetta paintings changing colors. But both Lucas and Fraz were known to revisit the art they had finished and change things.

BlackOp 05-19-2019 02:04 AM

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BlackOp 05-19-2019 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14274706)
I went a little ways down that particular rabbit hole. The craziest theory I heard was that CERN was to be used to open a doorway to Saturn to free the entities trapped (or banished) on that planet. And also, Saturn has been sending a steady stream of radio waves towards Earth for years which the Moon picks up and amplifies towards us, speaking with who knows whom.

Saturn is the last planet in the chain...hence it's rings. It's the reason the number 7 is prominent in modern religion. It's also part of the vital electro-magnetic impulses the govern our microcosm. The Sun and Saturn are like the (+) and (-) terminals on a car battery..and complete a circuit. These circuits are everywhere in life...it's just on a bigger scale.

Egyptian masters were well aware of this....as the Pyramids were strategically placed on earths magnetic lay lines...and above an aquifer to amplify these frequencies. They are glorified antennas...

What ever they were were...they were not like us...they essentially created our modern technology....from agriculture, astronomy, architecture...to geometry. Google "Baghdad battery"...they knew of electrical forces at play...They had a fully realized culture seemly out of nowhere.

The Sphinx has been digitally tested to be 20,000+ years old....Christian establishment isn't about to let that seep into main-stream consciousness. Keeping people scared, controlled and ignorant is quite profitable.

Th Egyptians were VERY adamant about the importance of the arrangement of the cosmos...and its governing principles. We've been sold it's random...it isn't. It's deliberate order...and they knew it....down to the atom and beyond.

There is one thing...and that's it. We are just small, animated, components of it...."it knows if you've been sleeping, it knows if you're awake...it knows it you've been bad or good.....or karma will wreck your shit".

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-23-2019 02:00 AM

Go to "user CP", scroll down to "helpful answers", find thumbed post, discover offender, and mercilessly bludgeon.

keg in kc 05-23-2019 06:39 AM

I didn't even know that was a thing.

I'm listening to a religious whackjob go off about CERN on YouTube. Not sure how it got into my recommendations but I'll link it if it continues to be as insane as it started.

loochy 05-23-2019 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14280148)
I want the jack-ass who down voted this...likely sitting in his mother's basement, to offer a real rebuttal. Let's hear your thoughts...I dont think you have any...your reality has been provided for you. The internet shield of sloth is being contested... or are you just an angry Joe that thinks the universe should have given you everything.

Your purpose "struggle" is whether to die for your masters or not...damn, being a simple-ass human would be a relief. You were created to be sacrificed...like the inconsequential bees in a hive...or front-line soldiers.

Wow, calm down there buddy. They just down voted a post from a random guy on the internet.

keg in kc 05-23-2019 07:21 AM

This kind of shit scares me, and I don't mean CERN. Just wanton ignorance...

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Dallas Chief 05-23-2019 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14280152)
Go to "user CP", scroll down to "helpful answers", find thumbed post, discover offender, and mercilessly bludgeon.

I accidentally downvoted you on something totally random recently. Fat fingered it on my phone. Sorry mate.:)

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-23-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief (Post 14281121)
I accidentally downvoted you on something totally random recently. Fat fingered it on my phone. Sorry mate.:)

I'll live. :thumb:

BlackOp 05-26-2019 02:13 AM

They recently found 24 "black boxes" buried in Egytptian tombs. They are solid, 100 ton, carved black slabs of granite.

They cant explain how these were carved with laser-type accuracy...let alone transported. They are dated at around 3,300 years old.

There is something here and has been for a long, long time.....

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Baby Lee 05-26-2019 04:01 AM

What does everyone think of the info presented on Bright Insight channel?

I'm a huge sceptic on ancient tech and fantastical explanations, but he unearthed a shit ton of anomalous stuff about ancient sites.

Even under the auspice of traditional explanations, some of the logistics of things makes the wonders of Giza look like backyard hobbyists.

A recent clip is about the suggestion as an ancient temple, with evidence of an entire other temple below it.

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keg in kc 05-26-2019 12:42 PM

I like Bright Insight. He seems alright. Subbed maybe a year, although I don't watch everything.

Fishpicker 05-26-2019 12:55 PM

wow. how old are those cigarette butts?

O.city 05-28-2019 10:46 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Some of the incidents were videotaped, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.<br><br>“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!” <a href="https://t.co/CIxx1ogscs">https://t.co/CIxx1ogscs</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1133412549561671681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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O.city 05-28-2019 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14283685)
They recently found 24 "black boxes" buried in Egytptian tombs. They are solid, 100 ton, carved black slabs of granite.

They cant explain how these were carved with laser-type accuracy...let alone transported. They are dated at around 3,300 years old.

There is something here and has been for a long, long time.....

<a href="https://ibb.co/KDN3ncy"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/7Qg6hxy/Untitled-15.jpg" alt="Untitled-15" border="0"></a>

Read a little about this lately.

Graham Hancock always talks about previous civilizations being so much more advanced than we thought. Stuff like this makes you think.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14285494)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Some of the incidents were videotaped, including one taken by a plane’s camera in early 2015 that shows an object zooming over the ocean waves as pilots question what they are watching.<br><br>“Wow, what is that, man?” one exclaims. “Look at it fly!” <a href="https://t.co/CIxx1ogscs">https://t.co/CIxx1ogscs</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1133412549561671681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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It's almost like this is coming out now as publicity for a new show on the history channel Friday.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 11:41 AM

Speaking of shows, America Unearthed is back tonight, but now on the Travel Channel.

O.city 05-28-2019 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285560)
It's almost like this is coming out now as publicity for a new show on the history channel Friday.

What show is this?

keg in kc 05-28-2019 11:53 AM

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O.city 05-28-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285580)

Interesting. Suspect timing for sure, but I dunno that I buy that.

It is weird to me that the government is investigating this, if it is in fact the government actually developing these things. Surely there would be some cross talk of "hey, yea, that's actually our things up there, don't worry about it".

keg in kc 05-28-2019 12:00 PM

Oh I'm 100% sure it came out now because of the show Friday. Not saying it isn't valid but they're trying to get eyes back on the topic this week for a clear reason. At least the To The Stars Academy is actually doing something, finally.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 12:03 PM

Reading a review of Friday's episode, it looks like the program deals directly with the event in the article.

O.city 05-28-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285583)
Oh I'm 100% sure it came out now because of the show Friday. Not saying it isn't valid but they're trying to get eyes back on the topic this week for a clear reason. At least the To The Stars Academy is actually doing something, finally.

Yeah, interesting.

Stuff like this always interests me when it's coming from pilots and such.

Fish 05-28-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285560)
It's almost like this is coming out now as publicity for a new show on the history channel Friday.

This has actually been around for several years. The CIA released a bunch of previously classified documentation in 2016, and this was part of it.

https://www.space.com/39147-navy-pil...sightings.html

O.city 05-28-2019 02:13 PM

Fish, you're generally a skeptic. What do you think about this?

keg in kc 05-28-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14285741)
This has actually been around for several years. The CIA released a bunch of previously classified documentation in 2016, and this was part of it.

https://www.space.com/39147-navy-pil...sightings.html

Although it mentions it very briefly, the Times article this week is not about the Nimitz 'tic-tac' sighting of 2004. It's about a series of encounters in 2014 and 2015. Different event, different witnesses, etc. While the video associated with it has been seen before, there was never any context provided previous to now, at least not that I can remember.

It's odd that they both involve training flghts, but they're a decade apart, and the Nimitz was off the west coast, with the more recent sightings being off the east.

Fish 05-28-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14285749)
Fish, you're generally a skeptic. What do you think about this?

I don't know. The pilot initially identified the object as a drone. That's probably the most likely explanation. But these are really experienced and professional people, not just some nutjob seeking attention. Which makes it much more interesting.

O.city 05-28-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14285807)
I don't know. The pilot initially identified the object as a drone. That's probably the most likely explanation. But these are really experienced and professional people, not just some nutjob seeking attention. Which makes it much more interesting.

That was kind of my thinking.

When guys trained at that level start talking about stuff being able to do stuff that's not supposed to be possible my out types of machines, it's interesting.

Fish 05-28-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285773)
Although it mentions it very briefly, the Times article this week is not about the Nimitz 'tic-tac' sighting of 2004. It's about a series of encounters in 2014 and 2015. Different event, different witnesses, etc. While the video associated with it has been seen before, there was never any context provided previous to now, at least not that I can remember.

It's odd that they both involve training flghts, but they're a decade apart, and the Nimitz was off the west coast, with the more recent sightings being off the east.

I guess I'm confused. The link I posted from 2017 contained the exact same video as your link.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14285811)
I guess I'm confused. The link I posted from 2017 contained the exact same video as your link.

Yeah, I don't know why they would release the video in 2017 but not disclose the sighting itself until now.

As far as 'nutjobs wanting attention' goes, it's generally accepted that many, many, many more people have sightings than report sightings. Most people don't report them at all, articularly among professionals. So I have often wondered where this idea that it's all crazy people looking for attention comes from.

Anyway, here's what I find strangest about the recent changes: why is the military now, after literally decades of trying to convince the public there's nothing to them (the whole point of every public study they ran in the 50s and 60s...) are they not only admitting there are anomalous objects, that they don't know what they are and that they may be a threat to national security? And strangest of all, they're encouraging pilots and other witnesses to report, rather than keep it quiet so they don't look like kooks?

ToxSocks 05-28-2019 04:04 PM

This one right here has REALLY caught my interest.

1. The object is massive and was captured by multiple cameras and multiple unrelated persons.

2. There's video taken by a group of people in a car as they drive around the Pentagon videoing the object. It looks to be a multidimensional object and not a projector (it'd be tough to project into the dark sky an object that large anyway) , as the object has multiple sides that's clearly demonstrated in the video.

3. IF the leaked footage below is real (looks to be) then holy shit....

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ToxSocks 05-28-2019 04:05 PM

I'm trying to find the footage of the guys who were driving around videoing it. It is by far the best footage of this. I haven't come across it yet on YouTube. I saw it on Travel Channel.

My initial thought was hologram. But when you see the footage of the guys moving around the object itself it looks like a damn real object. How would you even get a Hologram to project that large, that high in the night sky?

EDIT:

Here it is: (Take note that the object has a single "dark side" that stays consistent as it rotates. Can this be accomplished with a Hologram?)

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You be the judge. My initial gut reaction is fake, but....maybe?

O.city 05-28-2019 04:26 PM

Yeah, looks a bit fake to me. I dunno.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 04:33 PM

It's definitely fake. Manipulated video of another speech.

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As for the pyramids, don't look like anything to me.

Easy 6 05-28-2019 04:41 PM

Very interesting, Detox... I don’t keep up with things like I used to, that pyramid is a wild

It’s good to see Fish at least consider the possibility instead of laughing it all off, as per his usual response

Megatron96 05-28-2019 04:55 PM

The simplest thing I can think of to debunk/prove this one would be to check the flight logs at that airport and see if they cancelled any flights/called for a ground stop during that evening. They wouldn't allow normal flight ops with that thing hanging there in their airspace like that.

ToxSocks 05-28-2019 04:57 PM

Lets go on the assumption it's fake.

How do you fake that?

Megatron96 05-28-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14285924)
Lets go on the assumption it's fake.

How do you fake that?

I have no idea. But didn't David Copperfield make a building disappear or something to that effect?

Discuss Thrower 05-28-2019 05:10 PM

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ToxSocks 05-28-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14285937)
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But that's After Effects....not 3 different cameras from 3 different locations recording the same thing.

Because we have multiple cameras and multiple witnesses, that discredits the idea that the footage was edited.

That object, whatever it may have been, existed in the night's sky.

Discuss Thrower 05-28-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14285940)
But that's After Effects....not 3 different cameras from 3 different locations recording the same thing.

Because we have multiple cameras and multiple witnesses, that discredits the idea that the footage was edited.

That object, whatever it may have been, existed in the night's sky.

End of the day it's 2019. Everyone has a smartphone.


If it were real there'd be tons of raw video clips of all available angles, there'd be a slew of Tweets and FB posts about people saying they saw it but didn't get a chance to video it and, the most obvious evidence of all, there'd be tons and tons of memes about it.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 05:47 PM

3 different people send raw video to the Cousins brothers, 3 pyramid 'ufo' get added to said video. That's how hoaxes happen. Anything that spent an iota of time on thirdphaseofmoon, and that pyramid stuff was there in December, is suspect.

O.city 05-28-2019 10:06 PM

They’re slowly releasing a lot of this stuff

Think something big is gonna come out

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-28-2019 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14285686)
Yeah, interesting.

Stuff like this always interests me when it's coming from pilots and such.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14286248)
They’re slowly releasing a lot of this stuff

Think something big is gonna come out

They've been doing that for decades, and still nothing. Frankly, I don't believe in any of it.

Fish 05-28-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14285849)
Yeah, I don't know why they would release the video in 2017 but not disclose the sighting itself until now.

As far as 'nutjobs wanting attention' goes, it's generally accepted that many, many, many more people have sightings than report sightings. Most people don't report them at all, articularly among professionals. So I have often wondered where this idea that it's all crazy people looking for attention comes from.

Anyway, here's what I find strangest about the recent changes: why is the military now, after literally decades of trying to convince the public there's nothing to them (the whole point of every public study they ran in the 50s and 60s...) are they not only admitting there are anomalous objects, that they don't know what they are and that they may be a threat to national security? And strangest of all, they're encouraging pilots and other witnesses to report, rather than keep it quiet so they don't look like kooks?

I don't really agree with what you say is generally accepted. I think the US government was just as stupid about the idea and intent of UFOs as the rest of the world. But it's not my intent to try and derail the thread. I think it's a really good thing that they're encouraging witnesses. Even if that's the weakest form of evidence.

Megatron96 05-28-2019 10:56 PM

There's a difference between posting some video online and actually reporting a UFO as a military/commercial pilot in the U.S. While there is a section in the regs (FARs) for reporting UFOs, what they don't tell you in there is that there may be consequences up to and including the revocation of your medical certificate (which is necessary to keep flying) for 'health reasons.' And while you may jump through the hoops to get reinstated, they don't have to give it back to you for any reasons they like. Hence, most American pilots I know are very reticent to actually report UFOs.

I have seen a couple things I have no explanation for, but without rock-solid evidence, I would never make an actual report of a UFO to the FAA.

And while it seems that the FAA is becoming more understanding of these things, I'm too old to take that chance and then have to start a new career. I'll feel free to talk my *ss off once I'm retired.

O.city 05-28-2019 11:00 PM

It’s always been my main flaw I guess you could say with the whole Fermi paradox

If there were a civilization out there that did have the capability to get here from those distances, I think they’d have the capability to stay unseen or allow us to see them on their terms. With what we’re finding out about the universe, it seems pretty certain there’s something out there somewhere.

Whether they’re coming here I dunno. Hell maybe it’s just us traveling back in time or something.

keg in kc 05-28-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14286264)
I don't really agree with what you say is generally accepted. I think the US government was just as stupid about the idea and intent of UFOs as the rest of the world. But it's not my intent to try and derail the thread. I think it's a really good thing that they're encouraging witnesses. Even if that's the weakest form of evidence.

When I say sightings, I only mean see something they don't recognize in the sky. Which could be anything. Venus. A plane. A drone. A bird. Even something out of the ordinary. A lot of people see things. Very few report it to anyone. A miniscule number.

The same is true for every aspect of the so-called paranormal. Some people are entertained by it. Rarely does it go past that.

kcxiv 05-29-2019 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14285500)
Read a little about this lately.

Graham Hancock always talks about previous civilizations being so much more advanced than we thought. Stuff like this makes you think.

you have to think about it this way, They didnt come home to watch tv, play video games, get on the internet, they just had basically stared at the sky and used the brain to think. Kind of like dudes in prison, they can come up some some nifty engineering in there.

O.city 05-29-2019 07:52 AM

Anyone ever had any reading or experience with Jacques Vallee?

O.city 05-29-2019 08:52 AM

I also just can't really buy into a race of ET's that have such advanced tech to get here would even be seen by us. That doesn't make sense to me.

keg in kc 05-30-2019 11:23 AM

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Sorry 05-30-2019 01:37 PM

Anyone ever experience something that you just had to be there to k ow it was off kilter? I mean unless youre a trained novelist and could properly place the listener yhere, some stories are better left untold

ToxSocks 05-30-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14288378)
Anyone ever experience something that you just had to be there to k ow it was off kilter? I mean unless youre a trained novelist and could properly place the listener yhere, some stories are better left untold

Give it your best shot

Easy 6 05-30-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14288194)
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15 minutes into this and these guys have the proper credentials, good stuff so far...

BlackOp 05-31-2019 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14288378)
Anyone ever experience something that you just had to be there to k ow it was off kilter? I mean unless youre a trained novelist and could properly place the listener yhere, some stories are better left untold

I had a 4 ft x 4 ft print of a macro shot of broccoli (see pic). I woke from lucid dreaming to see a woman holding a child above me...then the photo sucked them back into the image and they became part of the pattern. From that moment on, I could always see them in the photo...

It was VERY strange...hard to explain except they were this 3D extension of the photograph that was hovering over me ..and hidden in the complexity of the pattern. It almost appeared like they were startled when I woke...that I had seen something I shouldn't have and quickly retracted back into the picture.

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vailpass 05-31-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14289214)
I had a 4 ft x 4 ft print of a macro shot of broccoli (see pic). I woke from lucid dreaming to see a woman holding a child above me...then the photo sucked them back into the image and they became part of the pattern. From that moment on, I could always see them in the photo...

It was VERY strange...hard to explain except they were this 3D extension of the photograph that was hovering over me ..and hidden in the complexity of the pattern. It almost appeared like they were startled when I woke...that I had seen something I shouldn't have and quickly retracted back into the picture.

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QF posterity.

keg in kc 05-31-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14290172)
QF posterity.

This is your brain on drugs

loochy 05-31-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14289214)
I had a 4 ft x 4 ft print of a macro shot of broccoli (see pic). I woke from lucid dreaming to see a woman holding a child above me...then the photo sucked them back into the image and they became part of the pattern. From that moment on, I could always see them in the photo...

It was VERY strange...hard to explain except they were this 3D extension of the photograph that was hovering over me ..and hidden in the complexity of the pattern. It almost appeared like they were startled when I woke...that I had seen something I shouldn't have and quickly retracted back into the picture.

<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/1T1Q58V/Untitled-20.jpg" alt="Untitled-20" border="0"></a>

Ah yes, I see that you've tried DMT. It's a hell of a drug.

Tribal Warfare 05-31-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14285857)
This one right here has REALLY caught my interest.

1. The object is massive and was captured by multiple cameras and multiple unrelated persons.

2. There's video taken by a group of people in a car as they drive around the Pentagon videoing the object. It looks to be a multidimensional object and not a projector (it'd be tough to project into the dark sky an object that large anyway) , as the object has multiple sides that's clearly demonstrated in the video.

3. IF the leaked footage below is real (looks to be) then holy shit....

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if that went through interstellar travel wouldn't it be more sculpted like a teardrop .

keg in kc 05-31-2019 10:04 PM

First episode of Unidentified is really, really good. Like maybe the best hour-long on the topic that I've ever seen.

That said, I'll say the same thing I've said for two years about To The Stars: I'm concerned about all the ties to the intelligence community. It makes them difficult to trust.

But...really good show.

Easy 6 05-31-2019 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14290277)
if that went through interstellar travel wouldn't it be more sculpted like a teardrop .

What if it isn’t interstellar... but interdimensional?

O.city 06-01-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14290581)
What if it isn’t interstellar... but interdimensional?

I mean, maybe

But we just can’t really wrap our heads around that yet so I won’t think that way lol

I think it’s more likely they’ve figured out how to essentially “space jump” from place to place somehow

Megatron96 06-01-2019 01:35 PM

I just watched "Unidentified."

It's disturbing. Ret. Navy Commander David Fravor is for real. What I mean is he is exactly who the show says he is. Back in 2008 PBS aired a mini-series titled, "Carrier," which was filmed aboard the USS CVN Nimitz, and he was the commander of the Black Aces squadron. That show wasn't about ETs or UFOs; it was a show about life aboard a carrier on their way from CA to the Gulf.

I made a call and verified the bona fides of ret. Marine Corps Lt. Colonel Christopher Cooke. The person I called worked with Cooke, and verified that he was in fact a highly regarded Marine fighter pilot. Also a highly decorated no sh*t fighter pilot. His analysis of the video is dead nuts on. Meaning you can bank on every word he says about it. He knows exactly what he's looking at, he's used those systems and that associated recticle hundreds if not thousands of times, probably also in actual combat. The look on his face while watching that clip is disturbing.


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