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The Franchise 03-22-2017 09:32 AM

Zay Jones isn't going in the 1st round. Shit....I don't even think he'll go in the top half of the 2nd.

staylor26 03-22-2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12793112)
Zay Jones isn't going in the 1st round. Shit....I don't even think he'll go in the top half of the 2nd.

He's likely the #4 WR on most teams boards. He'll probably be gone by the middle of the 2nd, though I agree that it's pretty unlikely he goes in the 1st.

raybec 4 03-22-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12793156)
He's likely the #4 WR on most teams boards. He'll probably be gone by the middle of the 2nd, though I agree that it's pretty unlikely he goes in the 1st.

Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?

staylor26 03-22-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12793253)
Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?

Jones. Much more upside.

raybec 4 03-22-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12793420)
Jones. Much more upside.

That was my thought too. He may not ever be a super star but I'd put money on him having a long and productive career barring major injury.

kccrow 03-22-2017 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12793253)
Preference, Cooper Kupp or Zay Jones?

Chris Godwin over both please. And no, I don't think KC picks a receiver in round 1 anyhow.

RealSNR 03-23-2017 09:13 AM

We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-23-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12794333)
We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him

For real. It's like buying toys for the little bastard child who needs to have his ass spanked and his dinner taken away from him.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12794333)
We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him

Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.

raybec 4 03-23-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12794851)
Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.

Drops, running game, pass pro, the defense did I forget an excuse?

DJ's left nut 03-23-2017 03:51 PM

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Adding Jones would help open up the Chiefs' offense and give Alex Smith a reliable, productive target.
Seriously - there is no way Kiper's watched the Chiefs and actually believes this.

Because adding Tyreke ****ing Hill didn't actually open up the offense. It added a couple of splash plays here and there but those were so infrequent (and really came at the expense of some deep middle/out routes rather than Reid/Smith's allotment of check-downs and WR screens) that they didn't accomplish anything.

No - NOTHING will open up the Chiefs offense. And no, Alex Smith will not do anything with a 'reliable, productive target' that he wouldn't do with some jackass 6th rounder that gets those same snaps because somehow Alex Smith has become "Even Steven" from ****ing Seinfeld. Give him 10 more deep passes and he'll just throw 10 more bubble screens.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12794857)
Drops, running game, pass pro, the defense did I forget an excuse?

Alex Smith is significantly more impressive when his team sucks.

Because he's no better when they're good so his middle of the road play for a shitty team actually looks pretty good.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-23-2017 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12794851)
Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.

Fellow Planeteers, I beseech thee;

Take a cue from young DJ here and embrace the reality that IS a useless Alex Smith.

Then, righteously focus thine anger on the fatassed, sideline bobble-head which insisteth on playing this fool.

Mother****erJones 03-24-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12794333)
We could draft the next ****ing Randy Moss and Alex would still come up short of 3800 yards and 25 TDs.

Stop drafting WRs. You get the same QB no matter who you give him

No kidding. Would love to see what a real QB does with this offense.

Mother****erJones 03-24-2017 11:12 AM

Mel Kiper is a ****ing moron


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