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duncan_idaho 01-02-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9268259)
USC sucked with and without Barkley. Barkley is weak sauce like every other USC QB.

Barkley is:

Short, slow and doesn't have great arm strength (it's good enough but not great). He does, however, have great mechanics and is very bright (and sometimes effective at reading defenses).

Sounds like a future game manager to me.

Pin Head 01-02-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9268210)
So basically you want to go with the BEST non-impact position player with your #1, and take the leftovers on the most important position in sports?

:banghead:

As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

Buckweath 01-02-2013 12:20 PM

It is a certainty that the Chiefs will draft a QB at #1 overall, like it or not.

The name of the game is QB.

duncan_idaho 01-02-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9268275)
Superb.



I'm at the point where I'm giving my full support and leeway behind whoever the new coach thinks is the best QB. If that's Barkley, then I'm behind it with patience. Same with Wilson or Bray or Glennon or Smith.

My only problem with Tyler Bray is that he's a headcase/terrible person. He's Roethlisberger-esque in that regard.

I also personally watched him get completely shut down by a Dave Steckel defense.

Other than that, hard to disagree.

ChiefRocka 01-02-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268284)
As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

If you and Scott Pioli had a child...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3sMh31VZHM...1254788145.jpg

duncan_idaho 01-02-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268284)
As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

"Ah, yes, the old 'Acquire other team's backup based on extremely small sample size' plan.

THAT has worked out brilliantly over the years."

-- Says Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Matt Cassel and too many others.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9268275)
Superb.



I'm at the point where I'm giving my full support and leeway behind whoever the new coach thinks is the best QB. If that's Barkley, then I'm behind it with patience. Same with Wilson or Bray or Glennon or Smith.

Absolutely. I don't like Barkley. I'm not a pro. I've missed on plenty of QB's coming out, and hit on plenty as well. Just an armchair guy without the knowledge the pros have. I'll trust WHOMEVER our new coach decides is the best QB in the draft.

Molitoth 01-02-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268284)
As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

Wow, Cousins comes out and plays a few decent snaps and he's worth THAT now??? You are crazy man, just crazy.

I bet last year you would've had a meltdown if the chiefs picked cousins.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268284)
As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

ROFL

This just can't be serious.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9268315)
Wow, Cousins comes out and plays a few decent snaps and he's worth THAT now??? You are crazy man, just crazy.

I bet last year you would've had a meltdown if the chiefs picked cousins.

Geno Smith isn't worth the #1 overall pick but the guy that was actually TAKEN with a 4th is worth almost HALF of our upcoming drafts.

ROFL

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268284)
As an alternative I'd be willing to consider trading away the 2013 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks to Washington for Cousins OR just our 2014 1st rounder (which should be a top 10 pick) and #3 in 2014 as well.

Congratulations! You've gotten off to one of the dumbest ****ing starts on this website so far this year. You're in some great company...

Prison Bitch 01-02-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9268315)
Wow, Cousins comes out and plays a few decent snaps and he's worth THAT now??? You are crazy man, just crazy.

I bet last year you would've had a meltdown if the chiefs picked cousins.


Not really a fair rebuttal here. By this logic, we would all be angry we traded up to get RGIII or took Russell Wilson when we had a chance. Which looking back, we would've gladly done either. A guy who's actually proven something in the NFL is worth far far more than a guy who's in this year's draft.


Cousins doesn't have an extensive track record but he's played in the League and shown, in limited time, he can play. We may decide to go another direction but Cousins has a lot of value right now especially given his low salary and low mileage. A deal for him would certainly cost us our #2 and #3 picks this year and that may not be enough for Washington to ship him off.

Pin Head 01-02-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9268321)
ROFL

This just can't be serious.

That's what it would take short of ransom Washington will use to extort for Cousins in order to make up for picks lost. That the Chiefs have no earthly idea whom at QB to select with the #1 overall is a very very ominous sign.

This 2013 crop looks more like Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden and Josh Freeman level prospects.

Buckweath 01-02-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268413)
That's what it would take short of ransom Washington will use to extort for Cousins in order to make up for picks lost. That the Chiefs have no earthly idea whom at QB to select with the #1 overall is a very very ominous sign.

This 2013 crop looks more like Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden and Josh Freeman level prospects.

Do you think cousins will be better in the NFL than Geno?

htismaqe 01-02-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrow Head (Post 9268413)
That's what it would take short of ransom Washington will use to extort for Cousins in order to make up for picks lost. That the Chiefs have no earthly idea whom at QB to select with the #1 overall is a very very ominous sign.

This 2013 crop looks more like Chad Pennington, Cade McNown, Weeden and Josh Freeman level prospects.

So let's give up HALF A DRAFT to draft a guy that's basically a carbon copy of Ricky Stanzi.

Brilliant!


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