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Hammock Parties 09-07-2011 01:27 PM

I could do Clemons/Shaugnessy Barber/Woodson...old corner for old corner

lostcause 09-07-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 7884914)
Meh. Clemons is probably better than Shaughnessy today, but I like Shaughnessy's upside. And I'd rather have Amendola than Banks. Banks is strictly a returner and I can use Amendola to return and in the slot.

I'm not married to Woodson, but I'd need somebody pretty good in return. My CB corps gets pretty thin after Woodson.

I would be interested in Woodson as well and be willing to package Stanford Routt.

Rain Man 09-07-2011 07:58 PM

I'll start bringing up the teams I was drafting for, starting with my own long-term team, the Duluth Pillagers. Here's our depth chart going into camp, with comments.


Duluth Pillagers - League 1


Rashard Mendenhall HB
Tim Hightower HB
Leon Washington HB
Maurice Morris HB

I like my halfbacks. I've got a good all-purpose first-stringer, a hard-running halfback, a quick third-down back, and an all-around backup.

Jerome Felton FB
Spencer Larsen FB

Two starting fullbacks. Don't know a whole lot more, but I think they're fine.

Philip Rivers QB
Ryan Fitzpatrick QB
Bruce Gradkowski QB

Big fan of my quarterbacks. I'm comfortable with my backup situation.

Hakeem Nicks WR
DeSean Jackson WR
Eddie Royal WR
Randall Cobb WR
Derrick Williams WR
Harry Douglas WR
Jeremy Horne WR

My starting guys are all small and shifty for the most part. I think Hicks and Jackson will complement each other, and Royal is a decent third receiver. I'm hoping Cobb can be my secret weapon and return man, while I've got some good all-around backups.

Greg Olsen TE
Robert Housler TE

Lacking in depth here, and waited a little too long at this position. Olsen is serviceable, and hopefully the rookie Housler will come on as my backup.

Jordan Gross LT
Alex Boone LT

Good starter, not much depth at all.

Vince Manuwai G
Jon Asamoah G
Stephen Peterman G
Kory Lichtensteiger G
Jason Pinkston G

No big-name stars, but I like them. Got some strong guards and some youth, and tons of depth with quality starters.

Ryan Kalil C
Kyle Cook C

I'm happy here. Kalil is a good young center and Cook is a fine backup.

Jeremy Trueblood RT
Ryan Harris RT
Lydon Murtha RT

Okay, this was a weird one. I drafted Harris and he got hurt. So Trueblood will come in as a starter. I drafted Murtha as a LT/RT backup, and he's out for the year. I drafted Pinkston as a rookie and he's now a starting guard. I hope Trueblood is durable.

Nick Folk K

Fine with this.

Brian Moorman P

Fine with this.

Jim Leonhard FS
Chris Prosinski FS

Leonhard is very underrated as a safety. I like the value here, and hopefully Prosinski will develop in his rookie year.

Bob Sanders SS
Reggie Smith SS

A little scary, I admit. Sanders will be good for as long as he lasts, and Smith is currently out for the short term with a minor knee injury. I could've used some more depth here.

Corey Webster CB
Rashean Mathis CB
Andre' Goodman CB
Javier Arenas CB

No stars, and I'm probably one guy short, but I like this group. Webster is young and ascending, Mathis is a pro bowl caliber guy, and Goodman is a veteran nickel with a good young dime back in Arenas. I can't afford any injuries, though.

Shaun Phillips OLB
Pat Angerer OLB
Kavell Conner OLB
Bruce Carter OLB

An interesting group. Phillips is a star, of course, and brings a pass rush. My hope is that my rookie Bruce Carter will be another star, but he's out rehabbing a knee right now. Angerer and Conner are stopgaps, but they're young and rising.

DeMeco Ryans MLB
Jameel McClain MLB

I wanted an MLB who's a run stopper, and Ryans is my guy...if he's healthy. If not, McClain will get inserted, and a Ravens linebacker is never a bad thing.

Elvis Dumervil DE
Chris Kelsay DE
Da'Quan Bowers DE
Eric Moore DE
Darryl Tapp DE
Dave Tollefson DE

Another interesting position. Dumervil is my pass-rushing end, and Kelsay is a solid DE on the other side. I'm hoping that Bowers will unseat Kelsay by the time we break camp, but we'll see.

Kevin Williams DT
Kyle Williams DT
Corey Williams DT
Peria Jerry DT
Terrell McClain DT

The Williams Wall with a spare. I invested early in two pro bowl DT's, with the goal of committing them and my MLB against the run while focusing my ends and OLBs on the pass rush. I like my DTs.

Rain Man 09-07-2011 08:34 PM

This team was abandoned early, so they missed a bunch of mid-round picks. It's going to hurt them for a while, but I think they'll still be competitive.

Round Rock Tambatornados - League 2

Michael Turner HB
Matt Forte HB
Stevan Ridley HB
Maurice Morris HB
Kevin Smith HB

I accidentally spent two high picks on halfbacks, so Forte can be on the trading block. Good depth here, and hoping to take advantage of my quick rookie Ridley on third downs.

Tony Fiammetta FB
Madison Hedgecock FB

Hedgecock got cut, so I picked up Fiammetta, who had been cut but was picked up by the Cowboys three days ago. Not an area of particular strength.

Tony Romo QB
Kerry Collins QB
Tyler Thigpen QB

I'm pretty comfortable with this group. Solid starter, greybeard backup, young developmental guy who can run.

Steve Johnson WR
Donald Driver WR
Brandon LaFell WR
Mohamed Massaquoi WR
Armanti Edwards WR
Titus Young WR

The lost draft picks hurt me here. I think Johnson and Driver are a reasonable starting pair, and LaFell has risen to be my third guy.

Jeremy Shockey TE
Dave Thomas TE
Tony Moeaki TE

Egad. Losing Moeaki for the year hurts. Shockey will have to get it done for us.

Rodger Saffold LT
Jamon Meredith LT

I think Meredith got cut, so Saffold is my guy. I'm good here as long as he's healthy.

Brandon Moore G
Chris Williams G
Chris Chester G
William Rackley G

Good starters and Chester is good depth. Rackley is a promising rookie.

Eugene Amano C
Stefen Wisniewski C

Amano is starting, and hopefully the rookie will catch him by training camp's end.

Erik Pears RT
Vernon Carey RT

Pears is my starter, and Carey is my backup even though he's been moved to guard. Could be better here.

Phil Dawson K

Fine here.

Reggie Hodges P

Who? Er, I mean, we're fine.

Jairus Byrd FS
Madieu Williams FS

Couple of good free safeties. I'm happy here.

Melvin Bullitt SS
Steve Gregory SS

I think Bullitt will do well, though he's a bit of a risk as a first-time starter.

Marcus Trufant CB
Sheldon Brown CB
Kareem Jackson CB
D.J. Moore CB
Demarcus Van Dyke CB
Brandon Hogan CB

No stars, but three guys who I think are solid. Then it's a little more unproven.

Shaun Phillips OLB
Ernie Sims OLB
Andre Carter OLB
Danny Clark OLB

Meh. Phillips is good at one spot. Sims and Carter may alternate at the other. I'd like to upgrade that spot.

Dhani Jones MLB
Stephen Tulloch MLB

Not spectacular, but Jones will get the job done.

Ray Edwards DE
Chris Kelsay DE
Raheem Brock DE
Austen Lane DE
Stephen Bowen DE

Edwards is good, and Kelsay is solid. Brock's a good backup. Not a bunch of all-stars, but they're okay.

B.J. Raji DT
Kyle Williams DT
Pat Sims DT
Nick Hayden DT
Marvin Austin DT

Got a couple of big-time tackles, so I'm in good shape. Sims is okay as the third guy. Hayden got cut and Austen is out for the year. Not as much depth as I'd like. A 3-4 team could make me an offer for Raji, but I'd need something really good in return.

Hammock Parties 09-12-2011 10:12 AM

Decent-to-good games for my starters so far:

Roddy White - 8 catches, 61 yards
Santonio Holmes - 6 catches, 70 yards
Kenny Britt - 5 catches, 136 yards, 2 TD
Kellen Winslow - 6 catches, 66 yards

Julius Peppers - 3 tackles, 2 sacks, FF
Antonio Garay - 4 tackles, 1 sack
Charles Johnson - 4 tackles, 1 sack

EJ Henderson - 9 tackles, 1 sack
D'Qwell Jackson - 11 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF

Quintin Mikell - 4 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
Dwight Lowery - 1 tackle, 1 PD, 1 INT

Rain Man 09-14-2011 08:55 PM

Britt is a risky but good pick for you right now. Congrats.

Rain Man 09-14-2011 09:10 PM

League 1 - Clearwater Donkeys

This team got abandoned in the middle rounds and lost some ground, but not too much. However, my drafting apparently wasn't very good for them.

We have extra depth at WR, TE, C, RT, SS, and OLB to trade, and need to pick up a LT, G, 3-4 DE, and maybe some depth at FS and ILB. Anyone interested in a trade?


Maurice Jones-Drew HB
Brian Westbrook HB
Jason Snelling HB
Kregg Lumpkin HB

Good halfbacks. Got a workhorse, a third-down back, and a thumper, with depth.

Le'Ron McClain FB
Greg Jones FB
Leonard Weaver FB

Fine on the fullbacks, though my top two are nicked up. Weaver was a pro bowler before a knee injury and is good at running, catching, and blocking if needed.

Aaron Rodgers QB
Chad Henne QB
Troy Smith QB

Pretty good shape here. Yeah, pretty good shape.

Dez Bryant WR
Percy Harvin WR
Jason Hill WR
David Reed WR
Kassim Osgood WR
Leonard Hankerson WR

Odd group. Bryant and Harvin are good starters, and Jason Hill is a starter now for Jacksonville and is a good third guy. The others are all depth who can help me out. No big stars at the moment, but good long-term positioning.

Heath Miller TE
Jeremy Shockey TE
Joel Dreessen TE
Brandon Manumaleuna TE

Lots of depth, and Heath Miller is fine. Let's go with it.

James Brewer LT
Tyler Polumbus LT
Lee Ziemba LT

Yeah, this is a problem. Got a rookie starter who isn't even starting in the NFL. Problem area.

Travelle Wharton G
Deuce Lutui G
Jason Spitz G
Reggie Wells G

Another problem area. Only one NFL starter.

Jeff Saturday C
John Sullivan C

Good shape here, both short term and long term.

Gosder Cherilus RT
Khalif Barnes RT

Good shape here, both short term and long term.

Matt Prater K

Probably fine.

Mike Scifres P

Good shape here.

Earl Thomas FS

No depth at all, but otherwise fine.

Amari Spievey SS
Deon Grant SS
Bernard Pollard SS

Doing fine here. Not a star, but Spievey is a starter.

Marcus Trufant CB
Kareem Jackson CB
Demarcus Van Dyke CB
Shawntae Spencer CB

Doing good here. Solid starters and depth. Could use a dime back.

Tamba Hali OLB
Joey Porter OLB
Bryan Kehl OLB
Brooks Reed OLB

This is a strong group, especially for a 3-4 defense.

Rocky McIntosh ILB
Greg Jones ILB
Dhani Jones MLB

I like this group. McIntosh is underrated, and Jones is starting for the Giants as a rookie. Dhani's been cut, so I have no depth.

Kenyon Coleman DE
Cameron Jordan DE
Austen Lane DE
Juqua Parker DE
Mark Anderson DE

Okay, I have a problem here. I was drafting best available, and I've got some 4-3 ends in a 3-4 defense. Anyone want to trade me a 3-4 end for any of my backups? Coleman is a solid starter and Jordan isn't starting yet, so I've got a problem here.

Sione Pouha NT
Remi Ayodele DT
Ma'ake Kemoeatu NT
Lamar Divens DT

Well, my last two guys got cut. Pouha's a good starter for the Jets, and Ayodele is a starter, but in a 4-3 defense. He's got the size to back up at NT, though, so I'm fine.

brorth 09-15-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7886056)
This team was abandoned early, so they missed a bunch of mid-round picks. It's going to hurt them for a while, but I think they'll still be competitive.

Round Rock Tambatornados - League 2

Michael Turner HB
Matt Forte HB
Stevan Ridley HB
Maurice Morris HB
Kevin Smith HB

I accidentally spent two high picks on halfbacks, so Forte can be on the trading block. Good depth here, and hoping to take advantage of my quick rookie Ridley on third downs.


Shaun Phillips OLB
Ernie Sims OLB
Andre Carter OLB
Danny Clark OLB

Meh. Phillips is good at one spot. Sims and Carter may alternate at the other. I'd like to upgrade that spot.

I need a RB, you need an OLB. Surely we can make a deal?

My OLB - Kamerion Wimbley, Pat Angerer, Connor Barwin, Erin Henderson, Brady Poppinga, Travis LaBoy, Sergio Kindle, Antwan Applewhite,

Rain Man 09-15-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brorth (Post 7910160)
I need a RB, you need an OLB. Surely we can make a deal?

My OLB - Kamerion Wimbley, Pat Angerer, Connor Barwin, Erin Henderson, Brady Poppinga, Travis LaBoy, Sergio Kindle, Antwan Applewhite,

How about Matt Forte and Ernie Sims for Kamerion Wimbley and Ronnie Brown? That way we each beef up a starter and get some depth in return.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 02:02 PM

League 2 - Anchorage Eskimos

This team could use some help. We need a FB, OLB, and DT badly, and could use a backup free safety. We can upgrade at several positions.

As trade bait we have a great rookie 3-4 end in Wilkerson and another starting end from our top three. We also have depth at all offensive line positions that we can trade.

Another option would be for us to go 3-4, in which case we can trade Robert Mathis and Jabaal Sheard (good rookie starter) to get an OLB, another 3-4 DE, and maybe backups at ILB and NT.

Anyone interested?


LeSean McCoy HB
Jason Snelling HB
Isaac Redman HB
Mikel Leshoure HB

Fine at halfback with a good starter and a thumper and a backup. Leshoure is out for the year.

Lousaka Polite FB
Reagan Mauia FB

Okay, this isn't good. Both of these guys got cut. Guess I'll be using a scrub.

Colt McCoy QB
Jason Campbell QB
Greg McElroy QB

Anchorage didn't draft a QB early, so we're going west coast with McCoy or downfield with Campbell. This will be an interesting training camp battle.

Hines Ward WR
Devin Hester WR
Jacoby Ford WR
Andre Roberts WR
Vincent Brown WR
Terrell Owens WR

Okay at this position with our legitimate starters. However, Ford has a hamstring problem now.

Vernon Davis TE
Zach Miller TE
John Carlson TE

Carlson's out for the year, but we have two good starters.

Russell Okung LT
Charlie Johnson LT

Two good starters. Happy.

Chris Snee G
Jacob Bell G
Jason Spitz G
Daniel Loper G

Two good starters in Snee and Bell.

Dominic Raiola C
Chris Spencer C

Got a solid starter and solid backup.

David Stewart RT
Todd Herremans RT
Jordan Black RT

Two solid starters here. Happy.

Jay Feely K
Garrett Hartley K

Drafted Hartley and then he got hurt, so we picked up Feely.

Matt Turk P

Doin' fine.

Nick Collins FS

Great starter, no depth.

Charles Godfrey SS
Craig Dahl SS

Got two starters here, so we're happy.

Mike Jenkins CB
A.J. Jefferson CB
Leigh Bodden CB
Shawntae Spencer CB
Benny Sapp CB

Depth is scary. We have two legit starters, but it goes downhill quickly. I'd like a strong starter so I could move Jefferson to nickel.

Jarret Johnson OLB
Na'il Diggs OLB
Bruce Carter OLB

Major trouble here. Carter's rehabbing a knee and Diggs is a backup. Johnson is serviceable but not a star.

Ray Lewis MLB
Titus Brown MLB
Nate Irving ILB

Lewis and Brown are both starting caliber, though I think Brown may be hurt.

Robert Mathis DE
Israel Idonije DE
Jabaal Sheard DE
Muhammad Wilkerson DE
Stylez G. White DE

Okay, here's a position of strength. We have four starting caliber defensive ends right now, and good youth.

Vince Wilfork NT
Leger Douzable DT
C.J. Mosley DT
Matt Toeaina DT
Tony Brown DT
Junior Siavii DT

Yeah, this isn't great. Wilfork is a monster, but our next three guys are second-stringers and then it goes downhill from there. I thought Brown was going to be a starter and then he got cut of all things.

shorman22 09-15-2011 02:42 PM

i need a qb n league 2

brorth 09-15-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7910814)
How about Matt Forte and Ernie Sims for Kamerion Wimbley and Ronnie Brown? That way we each beef up a starter and get some depth in return.

Sending proposal...

Hammock Parties 09-15-2011 03:31 PM

Does anyone in league 1 have an extra punter by chance? :banghead:

Rain Man 09-15-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorman22 (Post 7911099)
i need a qb n league 2

Lemme look. I've got several teams under my temporary control.

Rain Man 09-15-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7911207)
Does anyone in league 1 have an extra punter by chance? :banghead:

Extra kicker, but unfortunately no extra punter.


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