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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
(Post 12720802)
My fellow Cardinal fans evidently don't believe in Cuthbert's ceiling. They see a guy that's likely in the mold of a utility player long-term (and oddly, seem to prefer Dozier. I do not).
In Cuthbert I see someone who's ceiling is Anthony Rendon and who's floor is....I dunno....does a poor man's Juan Uribe seem fair? He has the bat control to make him a viable player even if his power doesn't take a step forward. He'll be BABIP reliant at that point but with his GB rates, his BABIP should stay pretty high. And if his GB rates drop, it will probably mean more fly balls which will be a good thing for him as his frame can support more power if he puts the ball in the air more.
I like him but my Cards friends think that someone like Jose Ramirez or Jonathan Villar is a more equitable return or they prefer more risk/reward prospects like Matt Chapman. If I went that route, I'm a fan of Ryan McMahon (gonna watch him this year as I think he takes a big step forward).
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That's interesting, because his path is very similar to that of some typical Cards guys who come up and exceed expectations - Matt Carpenter and Allen Craig come to mind.
Cuthbert was a big bonus guy out of Latin America and made some top 100 lists before stalling a little at AA and falling off the prospect map.
I agree that his ability to control the strike zone is a real positive for Cheslor. He does take good ABs, even if his initial walk rate doesn't show it. Pitchers challenged him fairly often, so he put a lot balls in play. If he proves he can do more damage on balls in the zone, that walk rate is going to tick up as pitchers become more careful working to him.
He also hit a little bit of a wall in September which hurt his overall numbers... was a .289/.325/.435 player through the end of August.
I'm optimistic he can be a .280/.320 guy. Question just becomes if he can make the SLG a .450 if he can tick up to a 20-HR pace, that SLG would jump into the .460-.470 range.
I understand preferring Jose Ramirez (who is unlikely to be traded, IMO) or Villar to him (though Villar's approach is pretty awful - he's a better fantasy player than real-life guy), though.
I'd like to see the Royals get Cutty around 350-400 ABs again, with a lot of those coming as a guy who is in the lineup against a lefty starter in place of Moss/Moustakas/Gordon.
Say he gets 250 vs lefties (60-65 games) and 100 against righties (20-25 games)... I would expect a slash something like .305/.343/.455.
That would be a really useful and valuable bench pieces, especially when most of those games are paired with a guy like Moss, who has traditionally raked vs righties.
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