Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13368286)

Can anyone explain why Smith has had more success than Rivers over the last 5 years despite having less talent on offense?

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13368286)

Can anyone explain why Smith has had more success than Rivers over the last 5 years despite having less talent on offense?

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13368286)

Can anyone explain why Smith has had more success than Rivers over the last 5 years despite having less talent on offense?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13368295)

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13368286)

Can anyone explain why Smith has had more success than Rivers over the last 5 years despite having less talent on offense?

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13368318)

ROFLROFL

rookie of the year running back and tyreek hill and one of the best TE's in football....
ROFL

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13368323)

How did we only win 8 games with Alex in 2014?

That was easily a top 5 defense. Best front 7 in football.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13368323)

How did we only win 8 games with Alex in 2014?

That was easily a top 5 defense. Best front 7 in football.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13368337)

So this thread is no longer about the trade market for Alex Smith? *slowly backs out of thread*

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13368300)

Andy Reid is the best thing that ever happened to Alex.

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13368342)

It was until Tigger's bullshit.

Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13368339)

bottom 5 pass pro OL
2nd worst dropped pass %
wretched WR talent

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13368363)

Should have traded midseason to Jags. They'd have a shot with Alex in there this weekend.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13368366)

Two actually. Slim and none.

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13368373)

The jags are going to kick the shit out of the patriots

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13368363)

Should have traded midseason to Jags. They'd have a shot with Alex in there this weekend.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13368345)

Who cares about this debate? We are finally free of it. He's played his last game here. Smith's career in Kansas City is over. The only thing that matters now is what we're going to get for him, and that Andy Reid is now on his last QB. Either way it turns out from here, we can now start taking steps back toward contention instead of staying stuck where we are, having the same inane debate every day. Let it go.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13368381)

Blake Bortles put up 147 yards of total offense and a TD in the second half against the Steelers.

In the second half the last two years vs PIT and TEN Alex Smith has 119 yards and 0 TD.

That's total. Passing and rushing. In two games. Combined.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 13368387)

Eh idk even Terez Paylor of the Star seems to be leaning towards the possibility of Smith Staying in KC another year. I personally think he is going to be the starting QB this year. Let's be really honest with ourselves here. The way Andy operates and the way Clark is it makes a lot of sense. Remember when they extended his contract before they really needed to causing us to be stuck with him this long in the first place? They LOVE Alex even when he didn't prove it and now the fact he played so well this year at least stats wise its just the perfect Chiefs recipe for another year of mediocre.

Prepare thy anus for another bent over and take it let down.

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 13368387)

Eh idk even Terez Paylor of the Star seems to be leaning towards the possibility of Smith Staying in KC another year. I personally think he is going to be the starting QB this year. Let's be really honest with ourselves here. The way Andy operates and the way Clark is it makes a lot of sense. Remember when they extended his contract before they really needed to causing us to be stuck with him this long in the first place? They LOVE Alex even when he didn't prove it and now the fact he played so well this year at least stats wise its just the perfect Chiefs recipe for another year of mediocre.

Prepare thy anus for another bent over and take it let down.

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 13368387)

Eh idk even Terez Paylor of the Star seems to be leaning towards the possibility of Smith Staying in KC another year. I personally think he is going to be the starting QB this year. Let's be really honest with ourselves here. The way Andy operates and the way Clark is it makes a lot of sense. Remember when they extended his contract before they really needed to causing us to be stuck with him this long in the first place? They LOVE Alex even when he didn't prove it and now the fact he played so well this year at least stats wise its just the perfect Chiefs recipe for another year of mediocre.

Prepare thy anus for another bent over and take it let down.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13367672)

I will watch zero football at all next year if Alex Smith is still the QB of this team. The only way I will be tempted to tune back in is if he goes down with a season ending injury and Mahomes takes the reins permanently. Yes, it has to be a season ending injury. Any case where the team views it still as Alex's job is unacceptable. So if Alex goes down for two games, I'm not watching Mahomes play just so the team can take it away and give the job back to Alex. That doesn't hold my interest at all.

It's no longer Alex's team. He lost it. It's time for him to leave. Get the **** off the team, Alex.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13367672)

I will watch zero football at all next year if Alex Smith is still the QB of this team. The only way I will be tempted to tune back in is if he goes down with a season ending injury and Mahomes takes the reins permanently. Yes, it has to be a season ending injury. Any case where the team views it still as Alex's job is unacceptable. So if Alex goes down for two games, I'm not watching Mahomes play just so the team can take it away and give the job back to Alex. That doesn't hold my interest at all.

It's no longer Alex's team. He lost it. It's time for him to leave. Get the **** off the team, Alex.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13368378)

Drinking so early?

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 13368405)

Who is gonna bounce our ass out next year? The Jets?

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13368373)

The jags are going to kick the shit out of the patriots

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13368634)

Count me in that I won't watch another Chiefs game where Alex Smith starts. There's no point, and I have better ways to spend my time.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13368634)

Count me in that I won't watch another Chiefs game where Alex Smith starts. There's no point, and I have better ways to spend my time.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13368408)

All Terez said is it’s not a 99% chance they trade him. Terez also said he expects Alex to be traded.

Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13368286)

Can anyone explain why Smith has had more success than Rivers over the last 5 years despite having less talent on offense?

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13368706)

If Alex Smith isn't traded then that tells us that it was Dorsey who wanted Mahomes and not Andy. It also tells us that Andy is ok with what Smith is doing within the offense.

A case can be made that letting Alex start all year indicates that Reid is ok with what Alex does.

Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13368689)

And miss Alex leading this team to the playoffs? Next year will be different. We had a MVP QB all season and a QBR trophy winner.


If Alex comes back this team will be loaded for Bear.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13368378)

Drinking so early?

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13368779)

Lol at all the people thinking there is a chance that Alex stays. He's not. Anything contrary that you hear is being put out on purpose to give the Chiefs more leverage in a potential trade.

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13368373)

The jags are going to kick the shit out of the patriots

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13368747)

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13368829)

Andy Reid is loyal to a fault. If we don't get a good return there's a very real possibility he's a Chief in 2018.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13368839)

This is simply false.

Reid wasn't "loyal to a fault" when he traded Kevin Kolb for a 2nd round pick or when he traded Donovan McNabb for a 2nd round pick or when he traded AJ Feeley for a 2nd round pick.

Smith is as good as gone.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13367941)

Sorry, dude, but with the drafting of Mahomes, the team has shown they're going to TRY to run themselves like a real franchise capable of challenging for and perhaps even winning a championship one day.

Just because they lost the Titans game the way they lost their other playoff games doesn't mean we should assume they're going to make a monumentally bone-headed decision, particularly since Veach really needs to take the mistakes Dorsey made and show that he's going to be a different GM by succeeding in those areas. Cap management is the single biggest area for improvement, and Veach REALLY loves Mahomes, perhaps even more than Dorsey did.

We gotta support the team through the Mahomes process as long as the team sees it through. Bringing back Alex to start another season will destroy that confidence I have in them, but for now, I think it's safe to say they'll get a deal done one way or another.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13369701)

From a local Jags guy...

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13369716)

Jags should get a Tyrod Taylor type... continue to build on what they have, that team can be solid for a few years.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13370209)

So Mellinger says 95% chance Alex will be traded. That is not what Terez seems to think. Mellinger is probably on the right track. There is a very logical salary cap reason to trade Alex. Chiefs need some cap relief and a trade would help a lot.

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13370238)

Our defense needs multiple players, you could get two really really good players for what trading Alex would save you. It really doesn't matter what he gets in return you have to unload him and help that defense out.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13369281)

SNR on-point. The old ways are dead, at least on the offensive front. I have enough faith in Mahomes to see the entire TEAM jumping to the next level based solely upon what Pat is getting ready to bring to the field and locker room.
The Pats are not loaded with exceptional players but what they DO have is QB who inspires confidence as well as a head coach that knows how to coach and to properly motivate.

Assuming KC does the sane, correct, and rational thing by handing the keys to PMII, you can expect to see an ENTIRELY different squad by mid season 2018.

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13370318)

We've been "fine" for 5 years dumbshit

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13370338)

No, we haven't. If you judge the output based on Herm and Peeholi, then your bar is so ****ing low, you might as well be serving drinks in the hull of a ****ing bass boat.

Anything else I can help you with today?

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13370353)

I've judged the output compared to the rest of the NFL over the past 5 years. Where have you been?

"Fine" just hasn't been good enough. Im hoping/ expecting greatness.

See how much more sensible that sounds?

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13370353)

I've judged the output compared to the rest of the NFL over the past 5 years. Where have you been?

"Fine" just hasn't been good enough. Im hoping/ expecting greatness.

See how much more sensible that sounds?

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13370373)

Doesn't sound sensible at all. As long as Reid is at the helm of this titanic I fully expect to get kicked squarely in the balls every year.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13370373)

Doesn't sound sensible at all. As long as Reid is at the helm of this titanic I fully expect to get kicked squarely in the balls every year.

Originally Posted by Safecamp (Post 13370399)

How secure is Andy doltons job? I don’t see coughlin wanting alex. I think buffalo might be his destination or browns. The cold weather is not ideal for alex tho

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13370402)

People have underplayed just how lackluster and uninspiring Smith has been for this team. Mahomes has the ability to not only recharge those around him but also to eventually outplay Reid's shortcomings.
Greatness is not too far fetched nor far off.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13370402)

People have underplayed just how lackluster and uninspiring Smith has been for this team. Mahomes has the ability to not only recharge those around him but also to eventually outplay Reid's shortcomings.
Greatness is not too far fetched nor far off.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13370415)

God I hope this is true. But I can't believe it until I see it.

If Andy won't let loose of the reins with a hand picked veteran QB, how will he do it with a 2nd year guy?

We're all in this together, we see the possibility of something great. I just don't know if Reid can get out of his own way to let it happen.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13370426)

Did you see the Denver game? Andy cannot script a perfect play against every coverage or pass rush. The script falls apart plenty of times. Pat showed his playmaking ability when the poop hits the fan.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13370415)

God I hope this is true. But I can't believe it until I see it.

If Andy won't let loose of the reins with a hand picked veteran QB, how will he do it with a 2nd year guy?

We're all in this together, we see the possibility of something great. I just don't know if Reid can get out of his own way to let it happen.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13370530)

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Chicken salad, every game, every time.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13370535)

Reid is not as "to blame" as many here think. If you have a QB who sharts of the pants and can not execute, you will of course look like a shitty coach with a shitty offense.

This isn't hard.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13370403)

Damn. You sure did piss some people off in short order

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13370667)

Without Brady Belicheat doesn't look as good as he does now.
Without Big Ben Tomlin is gone long ago.
Without Brees Payton is gone long ago.
If they hadn't drafted Watson O'Brien would have been fired this year.

I'd tend to lean toward Smith limiting Reid more than Reid limiting Smith.

He ain't a perfect coach, but if Mahomes is a hit I have a feeling our collective opinion of Reid will improve a ton.

Originally Posted by Safecamp (Post 13370668)

Trollin political forums does that

Originally Posted by Safecamp (Post 13370673)

Reid limited alex and the offense more so by dumbass situational play calls. Andy ruined the rhythm of the offense and called horizontal plays at the worst times. Not to meantion gadget plays

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13370667)

Without Brady Belicheat doesn't look as good as he does now.
Without Big Ben Tomlin is gone long ago.
Without Brees Payton is gone long ago.
If they hadn't drafted Watson O'Brien would have been fired this year.

I'd tend to lean toward Smith limiting Reid more than Reid limiting Smith.

He ain't a perfect coach, but if Mahomes is a hit I have a feeling our collective opinion of Reid will improve a ton.

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13370667)

Without Brady Belicheat doesn't look as good as he does now.
Without Big Ben Tomlin is gone long ago.
Without Brees Payton is gone long ago.
If they hadn't drafted Watson O'Brien would have been fired this year.

I'd tend to lean toward Smith limiting Reid more than Reid limiting Smith.

He ain't a perfect coach, but if Mahomes is a hit I have a feeling our collective opinion of Reid will improve a ton.