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Jimmya 03-19-2014 08:54 AM

Freaking nightmare for the families...... Just waiting.

GloryDayz 03-19-2014 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 10501694)
Freaking nightmare for the families...... Just waiting.

Yup...

alnorth 03-19-2014 02:26 PM

If they do ever find the black boxes, one problem they'll have with the cockpit voice recorder is that it only records the final 2 hours. It automatically records over anything older than that. Hopefully the flight data part of the black box will tell us if it was a freak accident or if its a hijack or suicide because the voice recorder may have not much more than silence.

BlackHelicopters 03-19-2014 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10502334)
If they do ever find the black boxes, one problem they'll have with the cockpit voice recorder is that it only records the final 2 hours. It automatically records over anything older than that. Hopefully the flight data part of the black box will tell us if it was a freak accident or if its a hijack or suicide because the voice recorder may have not much more than silence.

Hadn't thought of that.

Carnivore 03-19-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10500129)
So the captain incapacitated the first officer, climbed the plane to 45,000 to knock out the passengers and then just coasted off into the proverbial sunset until the fuel ran out?


I don't buy it...

alnorth 03-19-2014 08:04 PM

ABC News is reporting that US and British investigators have been able to get more information from satellite pings and believe the plane took one of two possible flight paths south. They have dramatically narrowed down the search to an area the size of Arizona.

No one else is reporting it yet, a few places have re-reported it crediting ABC News.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...19_634x364.jpg

dirk digler 03-19-2014 08:06 PM

CNN is reporting Malaysia has asked India to search a specific area in that country.

Easy 6 03-19-2014 08:21 PM

Guess what, I dont care what happened to this flight, smells like bullshit to me but I'm not going to fritter away my every hour like so much of the world over it.

If it was a standard hijacking the ransom demands would've arrived by now, if it crashed it would've been found by now... strange indeed but to hell with it, basically feels like a big distraction at this point.

It stinks, the whole world stinks... but didja hear about the Miley Cyrus bus fire?

GloryDayz 03-19-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10503033)
ABC News is reporting that US and British investigators have been able to get more information from satellite pings and believe the plane took one of two possible flight paths south. They have dramatically narrowed down the search to an area the size of Arizona.

No one else is reporting it yet, a few places have re-reported it crediting ABC News.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...19_634x364.jpg

Again, I see it, it's right under the "n"!!!

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 08:25 PM

I think this is what happened makes perfect sense from a pilots viewpoint.

Long read , but I'll bet its spot on.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

mlyonsd 03-19-2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503063)
I think this is what happened makes perfect sense from a pilots viewpoint.

Long read , but I'll bet its spot on.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

Except for not pushing the mic and telling anyone out there listening they were in a mayday event. I can't believe they wouldn't do that before pulling the electrical bus for communications.

nychief 03-19-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503063)
I think this is what happened makes perfect sense from a pilots viewpoint.

Long read , but I'll bet its spot on.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/


This has been debunked, I read. There were other pings later showing the plane having changed course.

alnorth 03-19-2014 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10503055)
Guess what, I dont care what happened to this flight, smells like bullshit to me but I'm not going to fritter away my every hour like so much of the world over it.

If it was a standard hijacking the ransom demands would've arrived by now, if it crashed it would've been found by now... strange indeed but to hell with it, basically feels like a big distraction at this point.

It stinks, the whole world stinks... but didja hear about the Miley Cyrus bus fire?

Well, the bolded part is obviously not true.

Floating debris in the ocean is pretty hard to find, we pretty much knew roughly where the air france flight went down and it still took 5 days to find debris. We haven't really been seriously searching the area west of Australia until recently.

Also, keep in mind the search area, though much smaller today than yesterday, is still the size of freakin' Arizona.

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 10503093)
This has been debunked, I read. There were other pings later showing the plane having changed course.

Did you read the article?

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10503083)
Except for not pushing the mic and telling anyone out there listening they were in a mayday event. I can't believe they wouldn't do that before pulling the electrical bus for communications.

So you didn't read it all?

alnorth 03-19-2014 08:51 PM

The problem with that theory is that it is almost impossible for a fire to not bring down a jet for 7 hours.

mlyonsd 03-19-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503129)
So you didn't read it all?

I read it yesterday. I have a serious problem with one pilot's version that yanking electrical buses without first indicating a problem over the radio takes precedent.

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10503157)
I read it yesterday. I have a serious problem with one pilot's version that yanking electrical buses without first indicating a problem over the radio takes precedent.

It's happened on other flights. Makes more sense than suicide or terrorism.

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10503135)
The problem with that theory is that it is almost impossible for a fire to not bring down a jet for 7 hours.

If it was mostly smoke and the crew was dead it wouldn't be that hard. Maybe they contained the fire shortly before being overcome by smoke.

mlyonsd 03-19-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503164)
It's happened on other flights. Makes more sense than suicide or terrorism.

I'd say all three are equal at this point.

tk13 03-19-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10503173)
I'd say all three are equal at this point.

That's the problem. All of these stories have holes in them.

mlyonsd 03-19-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503172)
If it was mostly smoke and the crew was dead it wouldn't be that hard. Maybe they contained the fire shortly before being overcome by smoke.

That only works if the crew didn't put on their oxygen masks. I suppose that's a possibility but I highly doubt it.

TLO 03-19-2014 09:06 PM

Investigators say flight plan after turn suggests it was programed into commuter to be executed Automatically.
-Per CNN

mlyonsd 03-19-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10503178)
That's the problem. All of these stories have holes in them.

Pretty crazy isn't it. Something that big with all that technology just disappears.

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10503179)
That only works if the crew didn't put on their oxygen masks. I suppose that's a possibility but I highly doubt it.

From article

Quote:

Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter, but this will last only a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one in my flight bag, and I still carry one in my briefcase when I fly.)

SPchief 03-19-2014 09:14 PM

Per 41 news: Australian PM says 2 objects in search may have been found

DaFace 03-19-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10503208)
Per 41 news: Australian PM says 2 objects in search may have been found

"Objects"?

Dave Lane 03-19-2014 09:18 PM

Australian PM says satellite imagery has found objects possibily related to Malaysian Airlines search. #MH370

ghak99 03-19-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10503181)
Investigators say flight plan after turn suggests it was programed into commuter to be executed Automatically.
-Per CNN

So, kill everyone and let the computer fly them out so sea?

What a bad ending.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 09:21 PM

WSJ Breaking News ‏@WSJbreakingnews 4m
Australia satellite imagery locates two objects that look like parts of an aircraft http://on.wsj.com/1pdnj33

Pushead2 03-19-2014 09:27 PM

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 3m
More: Prime minister says Royal Australian Airforce Orion aircraft diverted to investigate objects - @smh http://bit.ly/PRS2bO

tk13 03-19-2014 09:29 PM

CNN is live with coverage.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10503268)
CNN is live with coverage.

Do you have a link for us "trapped at work" folk?

Rain Man 03-19-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10503208)
Per 41 news: Australian PM says 2 objects in search may have been found


I'm hoping for an intact airliner and an alien spaceship.

tk13 03-19-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 10503275)
Do you have a link for us "trapped at work" folk?

Not sure. I think you can watch CNN live on their website if you have a cable or satellite account.

DaFace 03-19-2014 09:36 PM

Sounds like there's a press conference in an hour (assuming I'm doing the math correctly - 3:30pm in Sydney).

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...320-354ij.html

TLO 03-19-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10503301)
Sounds like there's a press conference in an hour (assuming I'm doing the math correctly - 3:30pm in Sydney).

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...320-354ij.html

Damn.. I'm probably gonna fall asleep before then. :(

SLAG 03-19-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10503301)
Sounds like there's a press conference in an hour (assuming I'm doing the math correctly - 3:30pm in Sydney).

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...320-354ij.html

http://time.org/

Mojo Jojo 03-19-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10503292)
I'm hoping for an intact airliner and an alien spaceship.

Well last night cameras in Canada caught images of something streaking across the sky. Authorities said "meteor". Strange objects in sky in Canada and now possible wreckage found near Australia. Coincidence?

Easy 6 03-19-2014 09:55 PM

Everyone needs to just SHUT UP and let Courtney Love handle it.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 09:56 PM

Retweeted by NewsBreaker
Micah Grimes ‏@MicahGrimes 12m
US Navy commander tells @NikkiBattiste that the US P-8 is roughly 30 minutes from the search area for these objects.

C3HIEF3S 03-19-2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 10503346)
Retweeted by NewsBreaker
Micah Grimes ‏@MicahGrimes 12m
US Navy commander tells @NikkiBattiste that the US P-8 is roughly 30 minutes from the search area for these objects.

:usa:

Pushead2 03-19-2014 10:29 PM

NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 1m
WATCH LIVE: Australian news conference on discovery of possible parts of missing jet http://bit.ly/1drTyq2 @NBCNews pic.twitter.com/8r0q5XYzG3

C3HIEF3S 03-19-2014 10:31 PM

Press conference starting now. I'm watching on CNN.

DaFace 03-19-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10503402)
Press conference starting now. I'm watching on CNN.

Anything exciting?

Bambi 03-19-2014 10:44 PM

Skeptic

ghak99 03-19-2014 10:45 PM

Someone tell him there's a ****ing Kangaroo on his shoulder!!

Bambi 03-19-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 10503418)
Someone tell him there's a ****ing Kangaroo on his shoulder!!

This is EXACTLY how I would picture an Australian presser in the middle of the night.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10503414)
Anything exciting?

NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 59s
“It is credible enough to divert resources to this area" Australian Maritime Safety Authority on debris spotted by satellite - @bgittleson

Christine Negroni ‏@cnegroni 2m
#mh370 A lead, "possibly the best lead" Australian pm says of possible airplane wreckage sighting @abc #AvGeeks

SBS News ‏@SBSNews 13m
#AMSA press conference: Possible #MH370 debris was spotted 2500km southwest of Perth http://bit.ly/1qXAF7s pic.twitter.com/oJDR6tMB45

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJPhNoCMAAnxaK.jpg

tk13 03-19-2014 10:47 PM

Nothing firm yet. No speculation. Seems they spotted a debris field of large objects in the ocean... they were called "indistinct" though. But according to their satellite analysts they are a credible possibility. They listed several ships and planes dispatched to comb the area.

Said the weather was not cooperating. It's in deep water and a long way from the Australian coast. He did estimate one of the objects in the water was about 24 meters.

ghak99 03-19-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10503414)
Anything exciting?

Us Pilots are claiming very poor visibility in the area.

Sounds like it's currently an 8 hour round trip with enough fuel to search for 2 hours.

One of the pieces is estimated at 24 meters.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 10:47 PM

Jon Williams ‏@WilliamsJon 48s
Crew on @USNavy P-8 spotter tell @WrightUps "significant radar returns" coming from site where possible #MH370 objects spotted.

Bambi 03-19-2014 10:47 PM

oh shit…Anderson is still up?

Pushead2 03-19-2014 10:48 PM

Jon Ostrower ‏@jonostrower 27s
AMSA's John Young described the object seen by satellite as a "blob with an assessment of 24m" long, or about 78 feet. #MH370

Easy 6 03-19-2014 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10503414)
Anything exciting?

Wolf Blitzer is getting unconfirmed reports of alien involvement... THATS exciting, right?

DTLB58 03-19-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10503425)
oh shit…Anderson is still up?

I think they grabbed him by the collar as he was walking out the door and threw his ass back on air.

It's a good thing too, the shit they had on there was worthless.

Pushead2 03-19-2014 11:05 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJUamUIgAAJ1Tk.jpg:large

tk13 03-19-2014 11:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>ABC&#39;s David Wright phoned from aboard P-8 poseidon that radar is getting &quot;hits of significant size&quot; &quot;all indications something down there&quot;</p>&mdash; luis martinez (@LMartinezABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/LMartinezABC/statuses/446511056387850240">March 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Discuss Thrower 03-19-2014 11:10 PM

Watch this saga continue itself as Australia / allied rescue effort finds a previously unheard of Russian sub sunk there instead of the plane.

Dante84 03-19-2014 11:11 PM

It ends up being a Bud Light Party Cruise

Chief_For_Life58 03-19-2014 11:32 PM

how do these satellites see a 70 foot piece of metal 15 thousand feet under water?

tk13 03-19-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 10503464)
how do these satellites see a 70 foot piece of metal 15 thousand feet under water?

It appeared to be bobbing in the water, according to the official.

Chief_For_Life58 03-19-2014 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10503465)
It appeared to be bobbing in the water, according to the official.

oh. well that explains it

RINGLEADER 03-20-2014 12:54 AM

Still predicting:

- Fire on board;
- Loss of control due to fire;
- Loss of communications due to fire;
- Loss of navigation due to fire;
- Plane gets lost and/or pilots overcome;
- Plane flies on its own around the Pacific
- Plane crashes

Also predict we're going to find out that a lot of the data being reported ends up being bogus.

J Diddy 03-20-2014 01:06 AM

http://i.imgur.com/2UDJuUV.jpg

Fritz88 03-20-2014 01:08 AM

Now I am frightened of flying.
Posted via Mobile Device

J Diddy 03-20-2014 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10503497)
Now I am frightened of flying.
Posted via Mobile Device

Flying doesn't appear to be the problem. Turns out the crashing needs some work.

Pushead2 03-20-2014 01:19 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJvgZ8CYAEttC9.jpg:large

Pushead2 03-20-2014 01:20 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjJwJ96CEAAsIfo.jpg:large

Pushead2 03-20-2014 01:21 AM

CNN Breaking News ‏@cnnbrk 20m
#MH370 Flight crew in Indian Ocean reports radar hits of "significant size," indicating something below water's surface, ABC News says.

Pushead2 03-20-2014 03:02 AM

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 3m
US Navy: P-8 Poseidon aircraft has completed its flight over target area and found nothing, other aircraft heading in - @NBCNews

Pushead2 03-20-2014 03:52 AM

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 28s
Royal Australian Air Force P3 crew unable to locate debris, cloud and rain limited visibility; further aircraft continue search - @AMSA_News

ForeverChiefs58 03-20-2014 03:58 AM

U.S. Navy P-8 Finds 'Nothing' In Debris Hunt, Returns To Refuel

A U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft searching the area where an Australian satellite traced possible debris found nothing on Thursday and headed back to its base, authorities said.

The sophisticated anti-submarine aircraft, which can scan an area of up to 10,000 square miles, was bound for the western Australian city of Perth to refuel, officials said shortly before 5 a.m. ET.

U.S. Navy Plane Is Airborne in Malaysian Jet Search


The plane searched the area for four hours and did not find "any evidence at all” of debris that authorities said might be related to missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370.

However, other aircraft from Australia and New Zealand remained airborne over the area where satellites traced two objects.

Deberg_1990 03-20-2014 06:19 AM

So is this the same site that Courtney Love found?
Posted via Mobile Device

Jimmya 03-20-2014 07:07 AM

Probably not.

Msmith 03-20-2014 07:09 AM

So what is this?

nychief 03-20-2014 07:14 AM

it was a freighter

alnorth 03-20-2014 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 10503172)
If it was mostly smoke and the crew was dead it wouldn't be that hard. Maybe they contained the fire shortly before being overcome by smoke.

It is incredibly unlikely to have a fire put out the amount of smoke needed to knock everyone out, but then go out so it doesn't bring down the plane.

Its a clever theory, but it was pretty much considered and dismissed when it went viral a couple days ago.

Jimmya 03-20-2014 07:55 AM

Where is Columbo when you need him?

alnorth 03-20-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 10503494)
Still predicting:

- Fire on board;
- Loss of control due to fire;
- Loss of communications due to fire;
- Loss of navigation due to fire;
- Plane gets lost and/or pilots overcome;
- Plane flies on its own around the Pacific
- Plane crashes

Also predict we're going to find out that a lot of the data being reported ends up being bogus.

A burning plane would not fly for 7 hours.


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