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Mile High Mania 04-13-2010 01:31 PM

I'm really hoping that a trade is announced soon... the frustrating thing for me is that despite is 'big numbers' and three straight seasons of 100+ receptions, I think he could be doing much more.

Brandon's YPC aren't great and while I think he certainly has more value in a trade than Holmes (a 5th was a gift for the Jets)... I was looking at the numbers. In the last 3 years, yes - Marshall had 121 more receptions than Holmes, but only 699 more yards and 5 more TDs.

Both have a big bag of issues and with his size (6 inches taller and more physical) I think he still has room for improvement, IF and only IF he makes that decision to work hard and keep his head screwed on straight.

Unfortunately, I don't know that I want to wait it out and see.

Mile High Mania 04-13-2010 02:16 PM

Step one is now complete... per Schefter:

"To facilitate trade talks between Broncos and other teams, WR Brandon Marshall signed his $2.5 million tender Tuesday."

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2010 07:12 PM

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After spending time with Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels yesterday, I’m further convinced he’ll produce an eventual Super Bowl winner for the city of Denver.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/....html&team=137

Michael Lombardi has been on the McDaniels bandwagon since day one :)

Jethopper 04-21-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6693330)
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/....html&team=137

Michael Lombardi has been on the McDaniels bandwagon since day one :)

Umm, they were the worst team in football the last 6 games of the year...

notorious 04-21-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper (Post 6693991)
Umm, they were the worst team in football the last 6 games of the year...

Even the Chiefs had a better record after week 6. That's pathetic.

Quesadilla Joe 04-23-2010 11:42 PM

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"I can't be more thankful for him deciding to take me. That will be one of my biggest goals in the NFL, is proving him right and making him proud and making him thankful that he drafted me. Like I told him, I'm going to try to make his birthday extremely special."

Tim Tebow on Josh McDaniels :)

Slainte 04-24-2010 12:26 AM

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Like I told him, I'm going to try to make his birthday extremely special.
What, exactly, does *this* mean?...

Chiefs=Champions 04-24-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 6708081)
What, exactly, does *this* mean?...

ROFL

lostcause 04-24-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 6708081)
What, exactly, does *this* mean?...

One would think that Pat Bowlen would be appalled to find that his team's finances and draft picks were being used on a fullback to fill Josh McDaniel's homosexual harem.

Quesadilla Joe 04-24-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slainte (Post 6708081)
What, exactly, does *this* mean?...

Yesterday was McDaniels' birthday.

Slainte 04-24-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6708108)
Yesterday was McDaniels' birthday.

Yes, of course. I was only wondering about the manner in which Tebow blew out the candles on Josh's cake...

Quesadilla Joe 04-24-2010 07:36 AM

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Denver just made the greatest long-term move of the draft, trading up to take Tebow. McDaniels coached Brady. Knows what takes. Home run.
Twitter / Skip Bayless: Denver just made the great ...

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Cutler wouldn't listen to Josh McDaniels. Tebow will. Josh worked w/ and learned from Brady. Will help harness Tebow intangibles. Look out!
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Bet you Tebow could win more games next year for the Rams than Bradford. I hear "Bradford needs to sit for a yr." B/c not tough enough?
:)

Bwana 04-24-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6708659)

:spock:

How is Teabag going to win games this year when he's sitting on the bench changing cleats for the other players? I bet he doesn't even move up to clipbaord holder until next year.

Bane 04-24-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6708659)

Lots of man/boy love going on in Dungver....:shake:

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2010 02:05 AM

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In a meeting room at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, Broncos coach Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow sat several feet apart, engaged in animated, rapid-fire conversation about football. They clicked almost immediately.

McDaniels was convinced Tebow was genuine. He came away even more intrigued with Tebow as a player.

Tebow, an All-America quarterback at Florida and the 2007 Heisman Trophy winner, felt he had found a kindred football spirit.

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."
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"We left (the combine) saying, 'Boy, that's pretty unique, what he has and his passion for this game and for winning.' He's been a winner, and you could see why," McDaniels said.
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Tebow said he knows that as a rookie, he will be judged by how he works — not by what he says.

"I'm going to have one goal and that goal is to earn the respect of my teammates and coaches. That's the only goal I have," Tebow said. "It's not to be the starting quarterback right now, it is to earn their respect, because when you earn respect from people, then they begin to like you, and then they believe in you, and then they begin to love you, and then you have a team that is united and cares about each other more than anything else.

"Then you go out there and you play for each other, you play for your coaches and you win championships."
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...mpaign=twitter

:)

Fairplay 04-25-2010 02:50 AM

Knowmo had a lot of TAGS that honored him.

BigMeatballDave 04-25-2010 03:14 AM

Skip Bayless? LMAO that dude is a screw in a box full of tools...

Hammock Parties 04-25-2010 08:34 AM

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then they begin to like you, and then they believe in you, and then they begin to love you, and then you have a team that is united and cares about each other more than anything else.
http://i.imgur.com/AsJBB.jpg

Time's Yours 04-25-2010 10:00 AM

Knowmo,

Do you think Tebow starts this season?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-25-2010 10:03 AM

"I was jacked leaving that room. I didn't even want to visit another room. It was not enough time," Tebow said. "We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome. Then we went back to Josh's and made love all night long."

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 6712427)
Knowmo,

Do you think Tebow starts this season?

I have no clue. I know for a fact he will play. I don't know if he will just do some special package stuff this year or what.

scorpio 04-25-2010 06:27 PM

uh oh...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=511...goryid=2378529

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2010 04:15 AM

How do you know that Tebow is going to be able to drop back and read a defense at the professional level?

McDaniels: A lot of people are taking this pretty far in terms of criticism of this player. You sit this player down and talk to him, relative of most college football QB's that I have done coming out of college, and it isn't even close. In terms of his understanding of defense and his football aptitude. You know, people can be critical of his delivery or his release but to talk about his mental ability and his ability to read defenses and all that stuff, some of the stuff he was doing at Florida was as difficult as we're going to do here, in terms of the mental side of the game I don't think (we) are all to concerned about that. I think that's something that he is going to eat up.

Chiefs=Champions 04-27-2010 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6717991)
How do you know that Tebow is going to be able to drop back and read a defense at the professional level?

McDaniels: A lot of people are taking this pretty far in terms of criticism of this player. You sit this player down and talk to him, relative of most college football QB's that I have done coming out of college, and it isn't even close. In terms of his understanding of defense and his football aptitude. You know, people can be critical of his delivery or his release but to talk about his mental ability and his ability to read defenses and all that stuff, some of the stuff he was doing at Florida was as difficult as we're going to do here, in terms of the mental side of the game I don't think (we) are all to concerned about that. I think that's something that he is going to eat up.

Its sooo suprising that a coach sticks up for a player he just drafted... :rolleyes:

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2010 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 6717996)
Its sooo suprising that a coach sticks up for a player he just drafted... :rolleyes:

I just thought that was some pretty good insight on a question that a lot of people have about Tebow. He didn't give some bland answer, he actually went into some detail on why he thinks certain criticisms are unfair.

Chiefs=Champions 04-27-2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6717999)
I just thought that was some pretty good insight on a question that a lot of people have about Tebow. He didn't give some bland answer, he actually went into some detail on why he thinks certain criticisms are unfair.

Tebow on Broncos interview: There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome."

Fairplay 04-27-2010 05:40 AM

The Chiefs we're distracted in the draft....

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Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2010 09:04 AM

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Demaryius Thomas/Rd 1 No. 22/Denver: Thomas may well have been a top-twelve pick had he not broken his foot prior to the combine. We feel he'll eventually be the best receiver to come out of the 2010 draft.
:)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ers/index.html

EDIT: John Asamoah was also on SI's biggest steal list

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Jon Asamoah/Rd 3 No. 68/Kansas City: Asamoah was consistent throughout his college career and could quickly break into the Chiefs starting lineup as a rookie.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2010 12:38 PM

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"When I went to Gainesville Monday to work him out,'' McDaniels said, referring to his hush-hush trip to spend the day with Tebow, "we spent about seven hours together. We went over a lot of things. Now, understand that our offense is pretty complicated, and the terminology and the scheme is totally different from what he did at Florida. But about midway through my time there, we're going through plays, and he starts using our terminology. He's so smart about football that he was able to begin to speak my language and talk apples to apples. He'd already translated what he knew of our scheme into my words. That's something that carried a lot of weight with me.''

McDaniels also said: "The football traits he has is the stuff you die for.''

McDaniels spoke over the weekend about the passion he feels for his job, and how Tebow's a match for that too.

"I love this game so much,'' McDaniels said. "I would die to have 53 guys here who love it as much as I do. I'm looking to find the right group of guys to accept our one singular goal -- to win. I think Tim fits in with that. There're going to be doubts about him. Great doubts -- and I understand that. Some people don't think he has the natural traits of a great quarterback. Here's what I think: Do Jim Furyk and Tiger Woods swing the club the same way, hit irons the same way? No. But they both win tournaments. There're different ways to throw, different mechanics, and you can still get the job done.''
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...bag/index.html

MoreLemonPledge 04-27-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6718236)
:)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ers/index.html

EDIT: John Asamoah was also on SI's biggest steal list

From that same list, under Reaches:

Tim Tebow/Rd 1 No. 25/Denver: We remained level-headed when people bashed Tebow during Senior Bowl week, realizing he was better than he looked. We stayed calm when they sang his praises after Florida's pro day, understanding he still has a ways to go. But moving up in the draft to take a project at the quarterback position in round one just does not make sense.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 6718893)
From that same list, under Reaches:

Tim Tebow/Rd 1 No. 25/Denver: We remained level-headed when people bashed Tebow during Senior Bowl week, realizing he was better than he looked. We stayed calm when they sang his praises after Florida's pro day, understanding he still has a ways to go. But moving up in the draft to take a project at the quarterback position in round one just does not make sense.

From the same list, under Reaches:

Javier Arenas/Rd 2 No. 50/Kansas City: There were several better cornerbacks available when the Chiefs selected Arenas. He brings return skills with his game, but the Chiefs had already selected Dexter McCluster fourteen picks earlier.

MoreLemonPledge 04-27-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6718930)
From the same list, under Reaches:

Javier Arenas/Rd 2 No. 50/Kansas City: There were several better cornerbacks available when the Chiefs selected Arenas. He brings return skills with his game, but the Chiefs had already selected Dexter McCluster fourteen picks earlier.

I saw that, but I didn't initially cite the link to prove that the Chiefs had a better draft.

According to SI, they each had a reach and a steal.

Quesadilla Joe 04-28-2010 01:51 AM

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Quesadilla Joe 04-28-2010 02:57 AM

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I love it on paper…

he Denver Broncos

There are definitely some unknowns to both QB Tim Tebow and WR Demaryius Thomas at this stage, but I think Josh McDaniels’ offense can be tailored perfectly to allow both to play to their strengths more than any other NFL offense. Thomas is as physically gifted as any wideout in the class, and because McDaniels’ offense relies so much on working his receivers from bunch sets, allowing them to create underneath on crossing patterns, Thomas doesn’t need to be a great route runner to make plays. As for Tebow, this is a case where he’s the kind of guy McDaniels can grind on day in and day out in practice, and it seems like a perfect fit from a personality standpoint. Tebow has the ability to make all the throws needed, plus the athleticism and escapability to create when things break down. Overall, both guys are gifted physically, but both have some rough spots to their games. However, I don’t think there’s an NFL offense that would allow either to play to their strengths more so than Denver. That’s why I love these picks.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...reactions.html

:)

Chiefs=Champions 04-28-2010 03:44 AM

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i picture u wanking and crying to this.. :Lin:


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Bane 04-28-2010 05:48 AM

I wonder how many truck loads of jerk lube have been sold in Dugver this week.:shake::shake::shake:

Quesadilla Joe 04-29-2010 02:51 AM

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Would you mind leading us all in a rendition of "Happy Trails" for Broncos coach Josh McDaniels after his idiotic 25th pick in this year's NFL draft of Tim Tebow? Does he really think Tebow is a franchise quarterback? I'd rather take my chances with Brady Quinn and draft a center or nose tackle with that pick. I'm not a general manager or a head coach, but I do know that if you're going to draft a QB in the first or second round, you had better expect him to be your franchise player. Tebow is not that.

— Robert, Atlanta

Robert: I bow to your expertise and welcome your opinion from Buckhead, except ... How in the name of God Shammgod (former NBA player) can you sit there staring at your computer screen in Atlanta and claim Tim Tebow won't be a franchise quarterback? Based on what? Your barber told you so?

I vividly remember writing in 1982, when the NFL strike was going on and I decided to travel around to see college players (Eric Dickerson, Herschel Walker and several others), and I wrote a column saying: "I have seen the future of pro football, and his name is John Elway."

I recommended that the Broncos find a way to get him. You know what people wrote, via snail mail: "Elway's a loser. He never got Stanford in a bowl. ... He's too cocky. ... He should play baseball, not football. He's not good enough to make it as a quarterback. ... Elway's a papa's boy. ... He can't throw short routes and doesn't read defenses. ... Elway won't be a franchise quarterback."

Five Super Bowls. Hall of Fame. (I gave his nominating speech: "Gentlemen, John Elway.")

Your reply is: "I've seen Elway, and Tebow is no Elway."

Tebow's assistant coach at the University of Florida in his senior season (and a main reason Tebow returned) was Scot Loeffler, a former NFL quarterbacks coach and one-time Michigan quarterback and Michigan assistant. He played with Tom Brady and was a graduate assistant helping Brady his senior year. Loeffler worked with Chad Henne, the Dolphins' starter. Loeffler has compared Tebow favorably to both guys.

Of course, Loeffler is biased. But he was brought in specifically to help Tebow get ready for the pros. Tebow did have a low start-up point on his throws in college, but he hired three former NFL coaches, and he has corrected the hitch.

Some claim he will go back to it. I don't believe so.

The young man has worked too hard over the years to correct flaws and get himself prepared to play high school, college and, now, pro football.

How many times have you talked to him, Robert? Let me guess.

How many times have you seen him play in person? How many of his coaches and opposing coaches and NFL coaches have your talked to?

I talked to Tebow twice in college, and I've spent some quality time with him in Denver the past week. He has that same aura Elway had as a rookie.

When he comes into a room, you can tell he's a quarterback. There's a je ne sais quoi. But there's a special quality.

John totally was a natural athlete, and maybe he didn't have to work so hard early on (although he did more as he got older and wanted so badly to win a Super Bowl).

Tebow always has worked harder than everyone around him and made himself into a quality player.

When he was in high school, Tebow attended a "Friday Night Lights" weekend at the University of Florida. After a meeting of young players and coaches, the Gators' strength and conditioning coach took Tebow downstairs to the weight room for a cheeseburger.

As the two sat there having lunch, Tebow asked what the Florida record was for most leg lifts. Mickey Marotti, the coach, replied: "Oh, 18, I think, by some lineman." After he finished his fries, Tebow walked over to the weights, did 19 lifts, and left.

He has a body that punishes defensive linemen. He can run better than Elway did. He can pass in this offense, just as Brady does at New England (under McDaniels for three years), and Brady can't run a lick.

I will tell you who to compare Tebow to: Steve Young. Out of high school, nobody wanted Young as a quarterback. Recruiters thought he was a running back or a safety.

He went to BYU because he was a great-great-great grandson of Brigham Young, and he was playing behind Jim McMahon when the Cougars played Colorado in Boulder in 1981. McMahon lit up CU early, then got hurt. Steve came in and ran and passed the Buffs silly, finishing off a 41-20 BYU victory. I wrote a column about this amazing kid. He was strictly a QB at BYU after that game.

But the NFL didn't think much of him, and people thought the left-hander would have to play another position in the pros. So Young went off to the USFL (signing with the Los Angeles team owned by Denver cable mogul Bill Daniels) and was great.

The Tampa Bay Bucs signed him. After a couple of years with that lousy team, Young went off to the 49ers and sat behind Joe Montana. When Montana was hurt, and later when he was traded, all Young — who didn't have a strong arm, but could throw hard and could run harder — did was become the most accurate passer in NFL history and win a Super Bowl (with Mike Shanahan as his offensive coordinator).

Shanahan loves Tebow. (You can add your own line here.) Tebow is Steve Young, who was a leader, a competitor, a football player, a quarterback, an intelligent young man who commanded respect from the other players.

When Young retired, I went to San Francisco, and in his hotel room he told me that he still had that column I wrote about him in college. "You were the first one to really praise me as a QB."

You can say I'm name-dropping, and that's fine, but I've been around Young and Elway, and I see a lot of the same characteristics in Tebow. All he does is win.

That must not be enough for you, Robert. You would prefer an inside linebacker. The Broncos just signed a veteran inside linebacker, and they still have Mario Haggan on the team, and they will be fine there.

Football and sports are entertainment. What's more entertaining in the NFL than the drafting of Tim Tebow? It will give us something to follow for years, just as Elway's acquisition gave us something to wonder about, then enjoy, in the 1980s and 1990s.

Did you think JaMarcus Russell was going to be a great quarterback? A lot of people were wrong about him. The Raiders are giving up on him.

Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton is not the long-term solution here. We don't know, honestly, about Brady Quinn. The Broncos will use Tebow 10 to 12 plays a game his rookie season as a wildcat quarterback, a third-and-1 quarterback, a fourth-and-2 quarterback, a change of pace quarterback.

McDaniels will bust himself to make Tebow a better quarterback, and I know Tebow will bust everything he has to prove people wrong who are somewhere off in Atlanta.

Tebow is not that? You don't know. Maybe I don't know. But I do know you and I and everyone else reading this mailbag will pay attention to him, more than Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy or Rolando McClain, and there will be anti-Tebowers and pro-Timmys.

You'd rather take your chance with Brady Quinn and have a nose tackle. The Broncos have three nose tackles. How many do you want, and would you really care if they had drafted Dan Williams out of Tennessee? No.

It was worth the chance, because we're all going to have fun with this for years.

Besides, when I shook hands with Tebow the other day, I was stunned by the large size of his hands. He's not going to fumble.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...mpaign=twitter

Woody Paige thinks Tebow is going to be a franchise QB :)

DaKCMan AP 04-29-2010 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6723792)
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...mpaign=twitter

Woody Paige think Tebow is going to be a franchise QB :)

Woody Paige is one of the biggest morons on the planet.

Quesadilla Joe 05-06-2010 01:34 PM

Tebow isn't allowed back in Denver until mini camp on the 17th. I wonder what he is up to... oh yeah he is working his ass off as usual.

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Video was taken on Tuesday. :)

Sofa King 05-06-2010 01:47 PM

WHO'S GAY!


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HotRoute 05-06-2010 01:52 PM

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Quesadilla Joe 05-07-2010 09:26 AM

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Paige: McD says Tebow has the "It" factor


Tim Tebow has IT.

Not if.

And he gets it.

So says Josh McDaniels.

"I think the thing about Tim is what everybody calls the 'It'. There are those kind of people that have that 'It,' " the coach said emphatically this week in his office at Dove Valley. On the wall beside McDaniels' desk is a large TV, and frozen on the flat screen was Tim Tebow, in his orange Broncos practice jersey with a football by his left ear — a start button for throwing a pass.

McDaniels looks at the image of the Broncos' rookie quarterback and compares Tebow's "It" factor to another quarterback he directly coached for five seasons in New England.

"When Tom (Brady) came to us in 2001, I wasn't on the offensive side of the ball, but I can remember the feeling in the building was that he had something that nobody else had . . . and how strongly he felt that ultimately he would be a great player. It was obviously apparent in subsequent seasons.

"I think when you get a guy, and he's waiting for me to tell him he's going to be a great player, we might be waiting a long time," he said.

McDaniels respected the confidence Brady showed then and admires the confidence Tebow shows now.

"That confidence affects everybody," he said. "We could see it last week at rookie camp. There were a bunch of rookies out there with no confidence, except him. He's got such confidence that he will just not let himself fail.

"And that quality sometimes is very underrated. There are people with a great deal of God-given ability who are fun to watch, and it's really interesting to see what kind of seasons they'll put together. Then there are guys who will say they won't fail, our team's not going to fail, and they have a 'I'm not going to let you down' attitude. And that's what you notice with Tim."

NFL scouts, coaches and analysts offered two alarming criticisms about Tebow the quarterback: his long, looping delivery and his lack of arm strength.

McDaniels has no concern about either. The Monday before the draft, McDaniels and other members of the organization flew to Florida to decide if Tebow would be their man.

"We spent seven hours with him, and I came away thinking that everybody keeps talking about the thing I think we can fix — that's my job as a coach — and nobody's talking about the things we don't have to teach him because he already has all that.

"I was struck by his intelligence, the way he understands the game, how I can have a great football conversation with him. I didn't have to sit there and draw it up. I would say, 'If they do this, here's what I want you to do,' and he says, 'I got it, Coach.' "

McDaniels implies that Tebow could play quarterback for the Broncos sooner rather than later.

"To me, (Tebow's acumen) gives him an advantage, an opportunity to play earlier than other people have played. Everybody keeps talking about it will be two, three years before he can play, and I think they don't know this guy. His mental capacity, and the way that he works, and the fact that he's on such a fast pace, will give him the chance to compete apples-to-apples.

"It's all going to be about his production and performance. There are a lot of rookies who can't run plays because they can't figure it out yet. That's not going to be the case with Tim. He'll be able to do the things (veterans) do."

During that final visit with Tebow, the coach began to explain the Broncos' offensive terminology, and the quarterback picked it up immediately. When McDaniels quizzed the QB about defensive fronts, Tebow proved he could recognize every variation and how to respond.

"You know what Tim doesn't know about our playbook?" McDaniels asked, then answered. "Only what we haven't told him yet."

And when Tebow threw at his private workout, McDaniels knew he wanted to figure out a way to wheel and deal in the first round to get him.

In Florida and at rookie camp, Tebow "threw into the wind, with it, across it, and there were no issues," McDaniels said. When Tebow threw long, "he would be looking, looking, then stand up, without winding up and all that stuff, throw 60 yards, just like that. He's got a really strong arm."

McDaniels points his remote control at the television, and Tebow is brought to life. Back and forth, fast forward, rewind, the coach reveals the rookie's throwing motion.

The problem with his delivery, McDaniels said, was not as much the left arm action as the right side body reaction. Tebow's nonthrowing arm was flailing, and his right side was bailing out. He's corrected the throwing motion and cocked position, is releasing the ball quicker, and has eliminated the inaccurate sidearm passes. McDaniels had Tebow tuck his right elbow, straighten his shoulders and concentrate on forcing the "15" (on his jersey front) to fall off (figuratively) when he throws.

"See, he's doing it, after just a couple of days," McDaniels said, looking at the screen. "What's it going to be like after 65 practices? He gets it."

IT is happening with Tim Tebow.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncoshea...mpaign=twitter

BEST. ARTICLE. EVER.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

MoreLemonPledge 05-07-2010 09:30 AM

That's all good and well in practice. The first time Tamba Hali is breathing down his neck in an actual game, he's throwing a side-arm jump pass.

CaliforniaChief 05-07-2010 09:40 AM

Wow KnowNothing....an article by Woody Paige proves once and for all that Tebow's gonna be a star.

King_Chief_Fan 05-07-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6718930)
From the same list, under Reaches:

Javier Arenas/Rd 2 No. 50/Kansas City: There were several better cornerbacks available when the Chiefs selected Arenas. He brings return skills with his game, but the Chiefs had already selected Dexter McCluster fourteen picks earlier.

apples to apples?
reach in first round @ 25 vs. reach in second @ 50..............nope

RealSNR 05-07-2010 10:23 AM

What's going to happen when Tebow loses his first game? His second game? What about 4 losses in a row? What if he loses a playoff game? Is he going to cry? Is he going to hold a soft bitch press conference? Is he going to kill himself? What?

LaChapelle 05-07-2010 10:27 AM

Saint Tebow
The patron saint of lost NFL causes

Quesadilla Joe 05-07-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6743406)
What's going to happen when Tebow loses his first game? His second game? What about 4 losses in a row? What if he loses a playoff game? Is he going to cry? Is he going to hold a soft bitch press conference? Is he going to kill himself? What?

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HotRoute 05-07-2010 11:41 AM

YADA YADA YADA . . . . the broncos are so great that they were able to do what last year??? win their first 6 get all hyped up only to lose 8 out of their last 10. and the best part, the chiefs doing the dirty work to keep them out. and you will have to suck on that all offseason, whether you like it or not.

Quesadilla Joe 05-07-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6743605)
YADA YADA YADA . . . . the broncos are so great that they were able to do what last year??? win their first 6 get all hyped up only to lose 8 out of their last 10. and the best part, the chiefs doing the dirty work to keep them out. and you will have to suck on that all offseason, whether you like it or not.

Even if we beat the Chiefs Denver wouldn't have made it to the playoffs. The Colts and Bengals rested all of their starters and let the Jets slide in. I am more upset at the Colts and Bengals than the Chefs.

HotRoute 05-07-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6743610)
Even if we beat the Chiefs Denver wouldn't have made it to the playoffs. The Colts and Bengals rested all of their starters and let the Jets slide in. I am more upset at the Colts and Bengals than the Chefs.

either way they tanked hard in the second half of the season, after all the hype they got for starting out 6-0. ROFL

Mile High Mania 05-07-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6743610)
Even if we beat the Chiefs Denver wouldn't have made it to the playoffs. The Colts and Bengals rested all of their starters and let the Jets slide in. I am more upset at the Colts and Bengals than the Chefs.

Cincy/Jets was the night game and unless I'm just remembering it differently... had Denver defeated KC, the Cin/NYJ game would have still mattered. KC defeating Denver made that night game a bit pointless.

Mile High Mania 05-07-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6743618)
either way they tanked hard in the second half of the season, after all the hype they got for starting out 6-0. ROFL

There's no way of getting around it... during the 6-0 run, they defeated CIN, DAL, NE and SD. During the fall back to earth, they lost to the Redskins, Raiders and Chiefs (2 of those at home) and they narrowly lost @ Philly.

Too many lost opportunities.

LaChapelle 05-08-2010 02:31 PM

Bronco in da pokey
 
Broncos' Ronald Fields arrested

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 8, 2010 4:23 PM ET

Denver Broncos defensive tackle Ronald Fields was arrested Friday night in Houston, Josina Anderson of Fox 31 is reporting.

Anderson reports that Fields was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of unlawful carrying of a weapon.

Fields was booked and posted $1,000 bond. The Broncos told Fox 31 they have no comment.

Fields started all 16 games for the Broncos last season. From 2005 to 2008 he played for the San Francisco 49ers.

The Bad Guy 05-08-2010 02:34 PM

Hilarious that KnowShit would be more upset at other teams than the Broncos for ****ing tanking against the Chiefs.

Do the Broncos do no wrong in your eyes?

You are the only ****ing douche in this world who tries to spin a 2-6 record down the stretch and blame other teams for their right to rest their starters.

bowener 05-08-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 6743301)
apples to apples?
reach in first round @ 25 vs. reach in second @ 50..............nope

This is what everybody with a brain is arguing most about.

Yes, he may very well turn out to be a terrific player for the Broncos, but the point is still that they could have sat on their hands and waited to draft him in the late 2nd (still a reach, especially after we saw how far the other QBs fell). Meanwhile they could have drafted a mid or late 1st round talent that they badly need and not have given up any of their other picks really.

That is the main argument to me. It was a stupid FO move to draft him there. Seems like they had an unspoken deal to make this kid rich or something... I wonder if when McDaniels is shit canned if he has a job waiting for him in Florida?

Quesadilla Joe 05-08-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 6746114)
This is what everybody with a brain is arguing most about.

Yes, he may very well turn out to be a terrific player for the Broncos, but the point is still that they could have sat on their hands and waited to draft him in the late 2nd (still a reach, especially after we saw how far the other QBs fell). Meanwhile they could have drafted a mid or late 1st round talent that they badly need and not have given up any of their other picks really.

That is the main argument to me. It was a stupid FO move to draft him there. Seems like they had an unspoken deal to make this kid rich or something... I wonder if when McDaniels is shit canned if he has a job waiting for him in Florida?

Ed Werder was asked on Denver radio if he thought the Tebow pick was a reach and he said it wasn't. He said that every GM he talked to thought that Tebow would go somewhere in the 20's. Only dumbasses like Mel Kiper and McShay thought Tebow wasn't going to be a first round pick.

Quesadilla Joe 05-08-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6745964)
Broncos' Ronald Fields arrested

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 8, 2010 4:23 PM ET

Denver Broncos defensive tackle Ronald Fields was arrested Friday night in Houston, Josina Anderson of Fox 31 is reporting.

Anderson reports that Fields was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of unlawful carrying of a weapon.

Fields was booked and posted $1,000 bond. The Broncos told Fox 31 they have no comment.

Fields started all 16 games for the Broncos last season. From 2005 to 2008 he played for the San Francisco 49ers.

He is our second string NT. No biggie.

scorpio 05-08-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6746140)
He is our second string NT. No biggie.

He probably won't even get a suspension, it's a misdemeanor and might get plead down further.

MoreLemonPledge 05-09-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6746138)
Ed Werder was asked on Denver radio if he thought the Tebow pick was a reach and he said it wasn't. He said that every GM he talked to thought that Tebow would go somewhere in the 20's. Only dumbasses like Mel Kiper and McShay thought Tebow wasn't going to be a first round pick.

Wasn't the general consensus that Clausen would be a first round pick? And McCoy an early-mid second rounder?

Tebow was a reach. If they wanted him, they could have probably gotten him somewhere between where Clausen and McCoy were drafted.

RealSNR 05-09-2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6746138)
Ed Werder was asked on Denver radio if he thought the Tebow pick was a reach and he said it wasn't. He said that every GM he talked to thought that Tebow would go somewhere in the 20's. Only dumbasses like Mel Kiper and McShay thought Tebow wasn't going to be a first round pick.

Did YOU think he was going to be a first round pick?

Something tells me if we had asked you this a week before the draft you would have said no.

Quesadilla Joe 05-09-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6747004)
Did YOU think he was going to be a first round pick?

Something tells me if we had asked you this a week before the draft you would have said no.

I didn't think he would have lasted to Denver's second round pick. And I wasn't upset at all when we traded up to get him.

I was dumbfounded last year when we traded a first round pick for Alphonso Smith last year.

lostcause 05-09-2010 01:09 AM

oh come on, nobody thinks this guy can actually play qb in the nfl do they? i mean, really?

see: wikipedia.ericcrouch

Ebolapox 05-09-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6743264)
http://www.denverpost.com/broncoshea...mpaign=twitter

BEST. ARTICLE. EVER.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

do they know how to fact-check? brady was drafted and went to the patriots in 2000. ****ing morons.

Ebolapox 05-09-2010 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6743406)
What's going to happen when Tebow loses his first game? His second game? What about 4 losses in a row? What if he loses a playoff game? Is he going to cry? Is he going to hold a soft bitch press conference? Is he going to kill himself? What?


his scars remind him that the past is real. he tears his heart open just to feel (/papa roach)

he'll go all emo and start wearing all black, cutting himself with a razor blade like a teenage emo bitch.

The Bad Guy 05-09-2010 11:05 AM

I think it's hilarious that he's using Woody Paige as a reference. Woody Paige is about the dumbest mother ****er to live. It figures you would adore him, loser.

The Bad Guy 05-09-2010 11:05 AM

You know who else had the "it" factor? Scott Frost. Maybe him and Tebow can share stories.

Bane 05-09-2010 11:08 AM

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Twatter.com/fukkthedonks. Josh McShortbus......
I seriously fukked up leaving New England.I have no fukkn idea what the hell I'm doing.....Timmy Tebow in the first round!!!!! I know!!!!!!!!! End Quote:

FD 05-09-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6743406)
What's going to happen when Tebow loses his first game? His second game? What about 4 losses in a row? What if he loses a playoff game? Is he going to cry? Is he going to hold a soft bitch press conference? Is he going to kill himself? What?

The strange thing about Tebow is, he has never faced any adversity in his career. He's always been surrounded by the 5 star recruits, dominant lines, unbelievable skill players and great defenses. I think he only led a single 4th quarter comeback in his entire college career, and he ended with a terrible game in last year's SEC championship.

I just don't see the "leadership" or "winner" thing, when you compare him to other great college QB's. His record as a starter was 35-6 with no undefeated seasons. Matt Leinart and Vince Young know what its like to actually be a "winner" and had to make comebacks along the line to do so.

If Denver is relying on overcoming his mechanical problems and taking advantage of his "intangibles" I just don't see there being very much upside there.

Quesadilla Joe 05-09-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward Dante (Post 6747372)
The strange thing about Tebow is, he has never faced any adversity in his career. He's always been surrounded by the 5 star recruits, dominant lines, unbelievable skill players and great defenses. I think he only led a single 4th quarter comeback in his entire college career, and he ended with a terrible game in last year's SEC championship.

I just don't see the "leadership" or "winner" thing, when you compare him to other great college QB's. His record as a starter was 35-6 with no undefeated seasons. Matt Leinart and Vince Young know what its like to actually be a "winner" and had to make comebacks along the line to do so.

If Denver is relying on overcoming his mechanical problems and taking advantage of his "intangibles" I just don't see there being very much upside there.

Matt Leinart and Vince Young played in easy ass conferences compared to where Tebow played.

Tim Tebow was drafted by the best QB coach in the NFL. I think Josh McDaniels would know a whole lot more about Tebow's upside than you or anyone else here.

FD 05-09-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6747410)
I think Josh McDaniels would know a whole lot more about Tebow's upside than you or anyone else here.

That is what you think. I think Josh McDaniels' head is stuck so far up his own ass that he has no idea what he's doing.

The Bad Guy 05-09-2010 12:35 PM

Ahh, yes, the Josh McDaniels knows all card.

If he knows everything, how did he go 2-8 after a 6-0 start?

Quesadilla Joe 05-09-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forward Dante (Post 6747441)
That is what you think. I think Josh McDaniels' head is stuck so far up his own ass that he has no idea what he's doing.

McDaniels knows what he is doing, if you ever watch his pressers you would know that.

I know this guy seems like he knows what he is doing more than this guy does.

Quesadilla Joe 05-09-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6747480)
Ahh, yes, the Josh McDaniels knows all card.

If he knows everything, how did he go 2-8 after a 6-0 start?

We couldn't stop the run plain and simple. Denver addressed that by bringing in 3 new starters on the DL and bringing in/promoting a more aggressive DC.

highBOLTage 05-09-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6747502)
McDaniels knows what he is doing, if you ever watch his pressers you would know that.

Yep, my favorite was when he congratulated the Chargers after losing to the Redskins. Since he knows what he is doing, it probably wasn't a mistake. McFistpump knew they played SD that next week; why not congratulate both at the same time. :shrug:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcs...ating_the.html
http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-bro...ess-conference

LaChapelle 05-09-2010 01:08 PM

Dick Curl will train Bradford
McDaniels will train Tebow
This could be embarrasing

The Bad Guy 05-09-2010 01:50 PM

So he knows what he's doing from his pressers?

If that is the case, then Gunther Cunningham is Vince Lombardi.

notorious 05-09-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6747349)
You know who else had the "it" factor? Scott Frost. Maybe him and Tebow can share stories.

Didn't Frost die in an airplane crash?

beach tribe 05-09-2010 04:02 PM

OMG I hope they let TeBow play this season. It will be priceless.

Quesadilla Joe 05-09-2010 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6747917)
OMG I hope they let TeBow play this season. It will be priceless.

He will play this year. I don't know if he will start but he will definitely play.


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