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buddha 10-01-2012 10:09 AM

Amen brother...add me to the roll call list!

Love me some Geno.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8966527)
If you want this guy, you better keep on losing. Jags fans have their eyes on him too.

**** that. They drafted Gabbert, they can stay the course.

Brock 10-01-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 8966527)
If you want this guy, you better keep on losing. Jags fans have their eyes on him too.

There are no jags fans.

DaWolf 10-01-2012 10:19 AM

Per Peter King:

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Geno Smith, the West Virginia quarterback, is about the same dimensions as Robert Griffin III (6-foot-3, 215), but not quite as mobile. As far as production, Smith is matching, and exceeding, RGIII early in his career. The stat line for Smith -- first for his starts in the 2012 regular season, then for his stats in all games played in 2012.

I spoke with two veteran personnel men Saturday night after Smith's incredible eight-touchdown, six-incompletion game against Baylor. "It's early,'' said one general manger whose team will be scouting quarterbacks this fall. "I haven't seen him in person yet. But I saw most of this game [against Baylor] and what's impressive is his downfield accuracy. He doesn't have the mobility Griffin has, but he has very good arm strength, and when he leaves the pocket, he can make people miss.''

Another scout said it's way too early to tell whether Smith has passed Matt Barkley of USC atop the quarterback boards of NFL teams. "But I know when he went to the Manning camp in Louisiana in July, he impressed everyone with his play and his presence,'' the scout said. "He's the kind of guy who takes control of a huddle and gets guys to play for him.''

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2845MaUjx

Chest Rockwell 10-01-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8966556)
There are no jags fans.

I beg to differ.

Bronco fans are all jags.

kcpasco 10-01-2012 10:41 AM

Not gonna happen with the shit stains running this franchise.

Flynn could be available though since he couldn't beat out a rook in preseason.

RealSNR 10-01-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8966567)
Per Peter King:

"He's the kind of guy who takes control of a huddle and gets guys to play for him.''

Usually this kind of thing doesn't make me wet or excited in the least. I normally couldn't give a shit. But after 4 years of a walking vomit-stained piece of dried excrement in Matt Cassel who blames his teammates for his mistakes under the banner of "team unity," a sharp contrast to that in Geno Smith gives me an erection now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8966671)
Usually this kind of thing doesn't make me wet or excited in the least. I normally couldn't give a shit. But after 4 years of a walking vomit-stained piece of dried excrement in Matt Cassel who blames his teammates for his mistakes under the banner of "team unity," a sharp contrast to that in Geno Smith gives me an erection now.

I am growing my own chocolaty penis in tribute and preparation.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 11:09 AM

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"But I know when he went to the Manning camp in Louisiana in July, he impressed everyone with his play and his presence,'' the scout said. "He's the kind of guy who takes control of a huddle and gets guys to play for him.''
This is really what it comes down to. (Well, that and he's insanely accurate, has a great arm, an amazingly quick release, incredible pocket presence, understands his progressions, smart and is very athletic too boot.) Watch him in the games. The guy has absolute control of the offense. There's a confidence, a leadership quality that really seperates the true franchise guys from backups. Geno is a stud.

RealSNR 10-01-2012 11:15 AM

I feel comfortable declaring this thread the True Fan Zone for all things Geno Smith.

Tell us all about the types of meat you'll be grilling and the beer you'll be drinking when Geno Smith leads the Chiefs to a Super Bowl victory.

Dayze 10-01-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 8966636)
Not gonna happen with the shit stains running this franchise.

Flynn could be available though since he couldn't beat out a rook in preseason.

sounds like our kind of guy.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-01-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8966734)
I feel comfortable declaring this thread the True Fan Zone for all things Geno Smith.

Tell us all about the types of meat you'll be grilling and the beer you'll be drinking when Geno Smith leads the Chiefs to a Super Bowl victory.

Spotted Owl ribs and orphan baby briskets FTW!

DaWolf 10-01-2012 11:22 AM

I would add that someone who has accuracy and is able to push the ball downfield in an attacking manner is exactly the type of guy Daboll's offense is suited for...

RealSNR 10-01-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966544)
Jags, Raiders, Saints and Browns fans can suck me.

Geno Smith is all ours.

Yep. It's funny because the Jaguars in a way had a version of Geno Smith in David Garrard. Granted, their version was a broke dick with some kind of weird ass cancer, whose arm wasn't as powerful or accurate from long and mid range, and possessed fewer tools to make all the throws at the pro level. But he was black, similar in size, and similar in physical tools.

Either way, I thought Gabbert was doing much better this year? But in any case, I feel confident that we can lose more games than them anyway.

Raiders are far better than us and have a QB that can take them places. I think the franchise seems to be loyal to Carson Palmer, even though they have no reason to be at all.

Saints can go get raped. I hope Goodell takes away more of their draft picks just because his wife is on the rag. They do NOT deserve an instant replacement to Drew Brees, who just got a wicked-ass awesome extension anyway.

And the Browns get credit for constantly drafting QBs and trying to make things work, but they've already had plenty of opportunities. They're supposed to wait awhile before pulling the trigger again. We'll just have to out-lose them.

Geno Smith is our goddamned QB, people.

Sorter 10-01-2012 11:28 AM

I suppose I should have posted this article instead of just the link. Whoops



Geno Smith is a Heisman Trophy contender for the ninth-ranked Mountaineers.
“Once upon a time, there was a little boy ...” Smith began, mimicking his grandmother’s bouncing intonation, sureness in his voice. Her colorful stories often started that way, the same as when she read to him, cradling him on her knee, conditioning his imagination.

Now seeing the pictures, conjuring his own rendition of the words, Smith announced a new tale proudly. The teacher hurried over, alarmed by the story’s elaborate details. She grabbed the book and learned the truth: the young boy could not read yet. He had made it all up.

A visionary, he was called. After taking an intelligence test, he was labeled gifted. If his mother wished, Smith could have skipped a grade. She decided against it, preferring he mature with his peers — a notion that did not go as planned, considering Smith often grew bored after finishing his schoolwork faster than most of his classmates.

“His visions of things have always been beyond his years,” Tracey Sellers said of her son, who is now West Virginia’s quarterback and a serious Heisman Trophy contender for the ninth-ranked Mountaineers (3-0), who host No. 25 Baylor (3-0) on Saturday.

Sellers gave birth to Geno at 17, and until he turned 4, they lived in Miami with her mother, Mosetta Bratton. Bratton watched Geno during the day, while Sellers finished her schooling. In those early years, Bratton “raised all of us,” Sellers said, “because we were young.”

Grouped with other students classified as gifted, Smith was taught an advanced curriculum emphasizing creativity and the arts. He wrote stories and poetry, acted in the school’s production of “The Nutcracker” and competed in chess tournaments. In fifth grade, he won an oratorical contest reciting work by the poet Langston Hughes. But he enjoyed sketching cartoon characters the most.

A critic and an ally, Smith’s grandmother exhibited his artwork on the refrigerator. She expected quality in whatever he did, but displayed anything he made.

With an impressive portfolio by seventh grade, Smith was admitted to Norland Middle School’s magnet program, which dedicated two hours a day to arts instruction. There, Smith thrived, drawing with pencils and charcoal. Painting with pastels and acrylic paints required touch, foresight and patience. Minor mistakes could nullify hours of work. No matter what tools he employed, he was a perfectionist.

“He was an extremely talented student with a natural drawing ability,” Gerald Obregon wrote in an e-mail. For two years, he and another teacher, Linda Atkinson, were Smith’s art instructors. Obregon added: “The quality of his drawings was more advanced than your average 13-, 14-year-old. It was actually on par with a college freshman in art school.”

Smith’s observation skills were particularly profound; he could capture the subtleties and emotions of the human face, Atkinson said. He drew details that some older artists overlooked or lacked the skill to portray. What jumped out were his characters’ eyes, which seemed lifelike.

But as high school neared, Smith left assignments unfinished, rarely interacting with his teachers.

“His priorities were different,” Obregon said. At about that time, Smith won back-to-back youth football championship games played in the Orange Bowl. Soon, Smith passed on his admission to the New World School of the Arts to play football at Miramar High School.

Briefly, football had served as an extracurricular activity, but now the field was his canvas. When Smith was 9, his uncle Antwan Sellers took him to the park while his mother worked.

Sellers, with knowledge gleaned from watching YouTube videos of Tom Brady, instructed Smith on his footwork, the proper way to drop back, hand off and roll out. Smith’s long, lean build lent itself to playing quarterback. From then, Smith obsessed about the details the position required.

His mother, however, insisted he manage his personal life before those of his sport. Sellers demanded a tidy room and a made bed. Smith was required to perform a number of household chores, and Sellers screened his friends, making sure they were of solid character.

Smith’s grandmother saved the newspaper clippings detailing his athletic exploits, but critiqued him as well, according to Sellers, saying things like: “You did good, but you stayed in the pocket too long. Get out the pocket!”

This helped her grandson develop an exacting nature. “If it’s not right, I’m not just going to leave it alone,” Smith said. “I want things to be right and be perfect.” With football, as in his art, the result needed to be “exactly the way you wanted it to come out, or how you’ve seen it in your mind.”

Smith started for four years at Miramar.

“His demeanor never changed,” said his coach, Damon Cogdell, who once suspended Smith for being late to practice, and pushed him to become a leader. “I could chew him out and bark at him, and some kids they would go in a shell. He never did, just stayed up, firm and high.”

In high school, when Smith’s mind wandered, he doodled cartoons and football players, said Stedman Bailey, who played wide receiver at Miramar and now plays at West Virginia.

Obregon said that Smith’s choosing football over the arts “doesn’t mean that his artistic journey is over yet.”

Football offered a more immediate gratification. When it came to college, the probability of playing time helped Smith choose West Virginia over Louisiana State and Alabama. He sat his freshman year behind Jarrett Brown, a fifth-year senior.

Smith had expected to be overwhelmed by the pace of the college game. Quite the opposite: everyone else appeared to be stuck in slow motion, he said. He thought to himself: this game isn’t really as hard as people make it seem to be.

But in Miami, his grandmother’s health was becoming a concern. By November of that year, her kidneys were failing.

Smith started as a sophomore in 2010, and led the Mountaineers to nine victories. When Coach Dana Holgorsen arrived in 2011 with his Air Raid offense, Smith threw for 4,385 yards, fourth most in the country. The Air Raid — predicated on matching a dozen route combinations to get receivers in open space — required a quarterback with a certain mental capacity, Holgorsen said. At Miramar, Smith had designed his own plays. Now, some opponents begged Smith to ease up. On a given snap, Smith read defenses, forecast which receivers would be open, felt pressure, counted time using an internal clock, faked to the options he knew were futile and found an open receiver and led him to an empty pocket of grass.

“On the field, he’s visualizing,” his mother said. “It’s like a puzzle, his masterpiece.”

His grandmother, though, was not fit enough to watch him in person. Bratton was treated with dialysis, and her health prevented her from traveling. Then, in January, West Virginia was set to play in the Orange Bowl against Clemson, and his grandmother felt well enough to attend.

Eight months later, she died. Smith spoke at her funeral and urged his family to stay strong with their matriarch gone. At some point, this kind of maturity became typical of Smith. “As a man, you have to do those things,” he said.

In January, with her in the stands, Smith had played the game of his life in the Orange Bowl. He threw for 6 touchdowns and 407 yards. West Virginia won, 70-33, and afterward Smith leapt into Bratton’s arms, hugged her and kissed her.

For Bratton — who had nurtured his imagination, adored his art and been his biggest fan — it was the confirmation she never needed: in football or in art, he would surpass her expectations.

Into the night, sureness in her voice, she had shouted: “I knew it! I knew it!”

RealSNR 10-01-2012 11:32 AM

<3

DaWolf 10-01-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8966762)
Yep. It's funny because the Jaguars in a way had a version of Geno Smith in David Garrard. Granted, their version was a broke dick with some kind of weird ass cancer, whose arm wasn't as powerful or accurate from long and mid range, and possessed fewer tools to make all the throws at the pro level. But he was black, similar in size, and similar in physical tools.

Either way, I thought Gabbert was doing much better this year? But in any case, I feel confident that we can lose more games than them anyway.

Raiders are far better than us and have a QB that can take them places. I think the franchise seems to be loyal to Carson Palmer, even though they have no reason to be at all.

No idea what the Titans will do with Locker.

Unless this team has some kind of a miraculous turnaround, and the schedule isn't getting easier so I don't see it, they should be in a spot to draft one of the top three QB's coming out. If Smith keeps moving up the board, we might be duking it out to trade up to get him...

Saints can go get raped. I hope Goodell takes away more of their draft picks just because his wife is on the rag. They do NOT deserve an instant replacement to Drew Brees, who just got a wicked-ass awesome extension anyway.

And the Browns get credit for constantly drafting QBs and trying to make things work, but they've already had plenty of opportunities. They're supposed to wait awhile before pulling the trigger again. We'll just have to out-lose them.

Geno Smith is our goddamned QB, people.

Watch the Jets suck enough this year that they trade up for him.

The Browns will have a new guy running the team so if Weeden doesn't start impressing soon they will be in the hunt. But they might also be prime trade-up partners if Weeden shows promise.

JVille will be all over a QB. Khan wants to sell tickets.

I agree the Raiders will be better than us, but I don't think they have an overriding loyalty to Palmer since Hue is not there anymore. But McKenzie doesn't strike me as the trade up type. He'll sit there and wait for players to fall to him.

Sorter 10-01-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8966786)
<3

http://chan.catiewayne.com/b/thumb/130909952457s.gif

Dayze 10-01-2012 11:48 AM

I'd hit it.

saphojunkie 10-01-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8966804)
Watch the Jets suck enough this year that they trade up for him.

The Browns will have a new guy running the team so if Weeden doesn't start impressing soon they will be in the hunt. But they might also be prime trade-up partners if Weeden shows promise.

JVille will be all over a QB. Khan wants to sell tickets.

I agree the Raiders will be better than us, but I don't think they have an overriding loyalty to Palmer since Hue is not there anymore. But McKenzie doesn't strike me as the trade up type. He'll sit there and wait for players to fall to him.

Raiders have too many holes and still no 2nd round pick. I just don't think they have the firepower to trade up.

Jets absolutely would.

There's only one way to be sure... nuke this season from orbit and have the first pick. Then you guarantee no one can trade ahead of you.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 12:46 PM

WVU faces their first real competition this week.

NJChiefsFan 10-01-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8966974)
Raiders have too many holes and still no 2nd round pick. I just don't think they have the firepower to trade up.

Jets absolutely would.

There's only one way to be sure... nuke this season from orbit and have the first pick. Then you guarantee no one can trade ahead of you.

If you add the firing of Pioli, then you can guarantee nobody trades ahead of us.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8967001)
WVU faces their first real competition this week.

Geno Smith racked up 463 yards against LSU last year, and that was with Brockers and Matthieu, in addition to Mingo, Montgomery and current company. LSU's defense last season had more talent than most NFL teams and Smith had guys draped all over him all game and was still making throws.

I don't give a rats ass what he does this year. He's proven himself.

That being said, he's going to light up Texas. If I was Manny Diaz, I'd be thinking about calling in with the flu this weekend.

RealSNR 10-01-2012 01:31 PM

"He hasn't played anybody yet"

Dude's been a starter for YEARS. He's played teams. The difference is you're too much of a fat lazy tub of lard to go look at them.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8967160)
Geno Smith racked up 463 yards against LSU last year, and that was with Brockers and Matthieu, in addition to Mingo, Montgomery and current company. LSU's defense last season had more talent than most NFL teams and Smith had guys draped all over him all game and was still making throws.

I don't give a rats ass what he does this year. He's proven himself.

That being said, he's going to light up Texas. If I was Manny Diaz, I'd be thinking about calling in with the flu this weekend.

For LSU it was a good performance, but he had 60+ attempts.

Steron 10-01-2012 01:41 PM

In

vailpass 10-01-2012 01:43 PM

Arena ball produces inflated stats.

RealSNR 10-01-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8967216)
Arena ball produces inflated stats.

Enjoy all those unfulfilled expectations the next few years as you ride broke dick into the ground.

vailpass 10-01-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8967219)
Enjoy all those unfulfilled expectations the next few years as you ride broke dick into the ground.

I understand that you are lashing out because you are in pain. I just want you to know I don't hold it against you; I'd be agonizing too.

hometeam 10-01-2012 02:13 PM

Im in on this cat.

ForeverChiefs58 10-01-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8967160)
Geno Smith racked up 463 yards against LSU last year, and that was with Brockers and Matthieu, in addition to Mingo, Montgomery and current company. LSU's defense last season had more talent than most NFL teams and Smith had guys draped all over him all game and was still making throws.

I don't give a rats ass what he does this year. He's proven himself.

That being said, he's going to light up Texas. If I was Manny Diaz, I'd be thinking about calling in with the flu this weekend.

Patrick Peterson and Morris Claiborne think he is impressive too.

RealSNR 10-01-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8967301)
I understand that you are lashing out because you are in pain. I just want you to know I don't hold it against you; I'd be agonizing too.

Hey, I like you, dude. But as soon as Manning hangs it up (or the Donks force him to) you guys are going directly to the bottom of the cellar in the AFC West, and unless you suck hard enough for an Andrew Luck-type player, you'll need to do a full-on rebuild.

The Chiefs have been "rebuilding" since 2008. They've gone from young talent, to elite talent, to back to young talent that appears not to have any direction or leadership. That's okay though. Enter Geno Smith. He's going to transform this bitch faster than Manning's now slow release.

vailpass 10-01-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8967509)
Hey, I like you, dude. But as soon as Manning hangs it up (or the Donks force him to) you guys are going directly to the bottom of the cellar in the AFC West, and unless you suck hard enough for an Andrew Luck-type player, you'll need to do a full-on rebuild.

The Chiefs have been "rebuilding" since 2008. They've gone from young talent, to elite talent, to back to young talent that appears not to have any direction or leadership. That's okay though. Enter Geno Smith. He's going to transform this bitch faster than Manning's now slow release.

Wish all you want but Denver has an owner that will spend what it takes to win and a front office that will make the moves. I"m not worried about EVER going into a decades long drought.

It isn't that I don't want you to have hope, it's that I don't like seeing you put all your dreams into this Gino boy with his guinea charm and his olive oil voice only to find out he isn't a nice boy and breaks your heart like the others.

dmahurin 10-01-2012 09:26 PM

Anthony Becht thinks we have a shot LMAO

@Anthony_Becht: Keep doing what your doing. Very possible. Lol“@KCKID116: @Anthony_Becht just tell Geno Smith I wanna see him in KC next year. #QBOTF”

Sorter 10-01-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 8968972)
Anthony Becht thinks we have a shot LMAO

@Anthony_Becht: Keep doing what your doing. Very possible. Lol“@KCKID116: @Anthony_Becht just tell Geno Smith I wanna see him in KC next year. #QBOTF”

http://i45.tinypic.com/24ysm00.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-02-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8967001)
WVU faces their first real competition this week.

Chocolate Penis is going to absolutely Blacksnake Moan those lillywhite Texan vaginas.

Bane 10-02-2012 08:23 AM

Cool!

Rasputin 10-02-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8936576)
Kids got an arm count me in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8936998)

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8953935)

Dang what's it take to get on the list SNR? HELLO you play Geno Smith to win the game.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-02-2012 09:14 AM

His chocolatey penis would bitch slap those clowns vondumb

lcarus 10-02-2012 09:33 AM

I don't care about his inflated stats due to the zero amount of defense that was played. The fact is, he can throw an awesome deep ball. Cassel could NEVER do that. I'm in TWICE. Seriously, PUT ME ON THE ****ING LIST TWICE SNR

Caseyguyrr 10-02-2012 10:08 AM

im down

RealSNR 10-02-2012 10:15 AM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B0RETkWC3sQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rasputin 10-02-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8970188)
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B0RETkWC3sQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

Rasputin 10-02-2012 10:28 AM

Ok thanks SNR :thumb:

bevischief 10-02-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8970188)
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B0RETkWC3sQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

The Franchise 10-02-2012 11:37 AM

Walterfootball just updated their mock draft.

Geno Smith goes #1 to the Browns. We draft Tyler Wilson.

Shag 10-02-2012 11:59 AM

Put me on the list - I'm all in. Geno or bust!

ForeverChiefs58 10-02-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8970385)
Walterfootball just updated their mock draft.

Geno Smith goes #1 to the Browns. We draft Tyler Wilson.

We play at the Browns week 14. Six months from now no one will care about the outcome of this meaningless game...or we could all be out buying a Geno Smith Jersey and actually excited about the season.

RealSNR 10-02-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 8970548)
We play at the Browns week 14. Six months from now no one will care about the outcome of this meaningless game...or we could all be out buying a Geno Smith Jersey and actually excited about the season.

I hope the Browns pick off some of the more terrible teams until Week 14. If they had at least two more Ws than us going into that game, I'd feel pretty damn good about our position.

Chief_For_Life58 10-02-2012 01:03 PM

we just need to root for weeden to keep putting up numbers alil better then like he did last weekend and genos ours

saphojunkie 10-02-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8970385)
Walterfootball just updated their mock draft.

Geno Smith goes #1 to the Browns. We draft Tyler Wilson.

I am so tired of people thinking that ANY franchise will draft back-to-back first round quarterbacks.

It just won't happen.

vailpass 10-02-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8970661)
I am so tired of people thinking that ANY franchise will draft back-to-back first round quarterbacks.

It just won't happen.

I have to agree. Why wouldn't Cleveland hold a rape auction with that #1 pick ala RGIII?

saphojunkie 10-02-2012 01:11 PM

Here's a terrible question...

Would you trade Bowe to Cleveland right now for their first? I think that, ironically, losing Bowe would ensure us the #1 overall pick and bring Cleveland up from the dregs.

Weeden seriously has no one who will catch the ball. And he's made some great throws. Greg Little just has stone hands.

Chiefnj2 10-02-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8970688)
Here's a terrible question...

Would you trade Bowe to Cleveland right now for their first? I think that, ironically, losing Bowe would ensure us the #1 overall pick and bring Cleveland up from the dregs.

Weeden seriously has no one who will catch the ball. And he's made some great throws. Greg Little just has stone hands.

Who is the GM and head coach making the picks next year?

ptlyon 10-02-2012 01:15 PM

Wow I just looked & there is a shit pot full of competition at the bottom of the standings. Unfortunately I think there is too much talent on this team and we will have a shit draft pick number again.

vailpass 10-02-2012 01:42 PM

Would any of you really be in favor of giving up the draft picks it took for Washington to get RGIII for Geno Smith?

the Talking Can 10-02-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970796)
Would any of you really be in favor of giving up the draft picks it took for Washington to get RGIII for Geno Smith?

of course, why wouldn't you?

vailpass 10-02-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8970806)
of course, why wouldn't you?

I haven't looked into him enough to have an opinion. don't know what kind of set he runs, what kind of competition he plays against, etc.

I'll watch the rest of the season with interest though.

notorious 10-02-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970796)
Would any of you really be in favor of giving up the draft picks it took for Washington to get RGIII for Geno Smith?

Yes.


Denver has had franchise QB's over the years. You guys have no idea what it's like to be in shit purgatory.

ptlyon 10-02-2012 01:56 PM

Our window is open now. Took a big swing & a miss leaving the keys with cassel.

vailpass 10-02-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8970829)
Yes.


Denver has had franchise QB's over the years. You guys have no idea what it's like to be in shit purgatory.

I don't for one minute question your desire to go for a FQB. I'm surprised to see so many jumping on the Smith wagon so early on.

ptlyon 10-02-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970843)
I don't for one minute question your desire to go for a FQB. I'm surprised to see so many jumping on the Smith wagon so early on.

we are in a "anything will do" mood at this point

the Talking Can 10-02-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970826)
I haven't looked into him enough to have an opinion. don't know what kind of set he runs, what kind of competition he plays against, etc.

I'll watch the rest of the season with interest though.

oh, I thought you were trotting out the "draft picks..too risky" thing...

vailpass 10-02-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8970860)
oh, I thought you were trotting out the "draft picks..too risky" thing...

Shit no. You can't win if you don't play.

RealSNR 10-02-2012 02:10 PM

God. In this scenario Cleveland has the potential to pass on both RGIII and Geno Smith (because they were lazy dumb****s and didn't trade with the Rams when they had the chance) in two consecutive years when they've had top 5 picks and Colt ****ing McCoy.

Their factory of sadness is almost as bad as ours when it comes to QBs. Not as bad as ours, but close.

vailpass 10-02-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 8970856)
we are in a "anything will do" mood at this point

Hey baby, can I buy you a drink? And your friend too?

RealSNR 10-02-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970843)
I don't for one minute question your desire to go for a FQB. I'm surprised to see so many jumping on the Smith wagon so early on.

Watch the guy play and I guarantee that surprise will go away very quickly.

I think he's got a better arm than RGIII and just as many leadership qualities. Plus, he's built a little sturdier and has better pocket presence (though RGIII certainly isn't lacking in that department).

Only significant advantage RGIII has over Geno is making plays with his feet. But Geno isn't a slouch there, either. He can scramble pretty well when he has to, and is pretty damn elusive in the pocket.

suds79 10-02-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970796)
Would any of you really be in favor of giving up the draft picks it took for Washington to get RGIII for Geno Smith?

Yes.

All that matters anymore in this league is QB. Go get your guy.

If we miss out on a few more Tyson Jacksons or Javier Arenases, I'll live with it. ;)

mcaj22 10-02-2012 02:17 PM

the only way we get Geno is if Clark cleans house in the offseason. Fires Pioli, Romeo etc

Pioli is so ****ing stubborn when it comes to drafting he will never take a guy like Geno

vailpass 10-02-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8970882)
Watch the guy play and I guarantee that surprise will go away very quickly.

I think he's got a better arm than RGIII and just as many leadership qualities. Plus, he's built a little sturdier and has better pocket presence (though RGIII certainly isn't lacking in that department).

Only significant advantage RGIII has over Geno is making plays with his feet. But Geno isn't a slouch there, either. He can scramble pretty well when he has to, and is pretty damn elusive in the pocket.

Thanks, good insight.

I've seen the recent highlights. Looked like an arena league game. I haven't seen much from him over the course of time so don't know enough to say if he's played against any good defenses, if he can make reads, what his football and leadership IQs are, etc.

If he continues to receive the hype I'm sure all of that will come out in the weeks to come, and I'll watch with interest.

ptlyon 10-02-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8970882)
Watch the guy play and I guarantee that surprise will go away very quickly.

I think he's got a better arm than RGIII and just as many leadership qualities. Plus, he's built a little sturdier and has better pocket presence (though RGIII certainly isn't lacking in that department).

Only significant advantage RGIII has over Geno is making plays with his feet. But Geno isn't a slouch there, either. He can scramble pretty well when he has to, and is pretty damn elusive in the pocket.

That, and he can make downright ****in cool ballon animals

ptlyon 10-02-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8970876)
Hey baby, can I buy you a drink? And your friend too?

Yes, it is time to take the ugliest girl home from the bar.

DaWolf 10-02-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8970891)
the only way we get Geno is if Clark cleans house in the offseason. Fires Pioli, Romeo etc

Pioli is so ****ing stubborn when it comes to drafting he will never take a guy like Geno

It'll be interesting to see if Daboll has any pull into this situation during the offseason, assuming that the entire thing isn't blown up. When he described his ideal QB in the offseason, and in previous interviews, it was about a guy who could attach the field and who had a strong arm and was accurate. Essentially, he was describing the anti-Cassel.

Pioli, on the other hand, seems to prefer pocket passers who don't work exclusively in the shotgun. I remember a comment he made in the book War Room about some QB who never played under center in College. So he would probably gravitate more towards a Matt Barkley type, my guess would be...

saphojunkie 10-02-2012 04:12 PM

Would you guys deal with another year of Cassel if Geno Smith were sitting behind him? Because that is ALSO a possibility.

WV 10-02-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8971258)
Would you guys deal with another year of Cassel if Geno Smith were sitting behind him? Because that is ALSO a possibility.

Yes....easy question. I could endure another year of Casshole if we actually drafted a QB (especially Smith) in the 1st round.

Sorter 10-02-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8971258)
Would you guys deal with another year of Cassel if Geno Smith were sitting behind him? Because that is ALSO a possibility.

I could deal with it because Cassel wouldn't make it a whole season with Geno in the wings

Rasputin 10-02-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8971258)
Would you guys deal with another year of Cassel if Geno Smith were sitting behind him? Because that is ALSO a possibility.

Cassell wouldn't make it past preseason so I not worried. Doesn't even look like he is going to make it past the trade dead line week 8. If not sooner.

Tribal Warfare 10-02-2012 06:04 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

Matt Barkley and Geno Smith are the selections at the #2 spot

MIAdragon 10-02-2012 06:25 PM

If its between Geno and Barkley and we take the latter I will be PISSED.

Gadzooks 10-02-2012 06:27 PM

I heard Barkley was pretty good, plus, he's a starter for USC...


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