I don't think that Reid will stick with Smith if he struggles.

I do, however, expect that he will stick with him if the Chiefs are winng games and making playoff appearences, which I expect he will be good enough to do.

Alex Smith is not a terrible QB.

He's just good enough to keep you competing for playoff bounce parties.

glad you enjoyed it

The Chiefs won more games in the 90s than all but three teams.

**** just winning games.

I want to see another SB before I die.

You don't get it, do you?

If Bridgewater or Boyd are worth a shit in the 2014 draft, they'll both go in the top 5. That goes for any and all QBs that are supposedly "worth" spending a 1st round pick on.

At least as it stands, Kansas City figures to not be picking in the top 5. They got their game manager QB who doesn't turn the ball over (apparently). They've got their overdrafted offensive line, and a coach who doesn't suck AIDS. They're clearly making a big push to win at least 7 games this season.

Our situation turns into the way it's always been. Draft in the back half and pray for the shit to fall, or be so invested in the game manager guy we gave up picks for that we can't afford a trade up to get a "real" QB.

The hilarious part is going to be when guys at the level of Geno Smith fly off the board before we even have a chance to think about them. We're going to be picking WRs, CBs, safeties, DL, OL, and all that ****ing garbage from now on. Our only hope is to find the next Russell Wilson. And it's all because Reid wanted to "win now" with Alex Smith.

He can rectify the situation by picking Geno, who is a potential franchise QB available at our spot for ****ing once. If he passes, it's possible that we're going to have to wait for the next time our GM blows up the team and rebuilds, granting us the #1 overall pick in the draft. And if he does wait that long and passes AGAIN, I can hear dumb****s like you cackling like a bunch of reeruned crows, "JUST WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR! YOU CAN PICK A QB ANY TIME! DON'T REACH CUZ WHAT IF HE BUSTS???"

ugh...same ol' Thiefs: stealing the hope away from legitimate football fans who would like to see this franchise move beyond 1970.
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The problem with your argument, is that there are a ****load of amazing NON QB prospects likely in next years drafts. There might be multiple WR in the top 10 even. So there will be a lot of good QB prospects likely in the first round next year.

Again, no matter what else. Coaching, team around them, etc...

Brady and Rodgers do not have the limitations of being mediocre.
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the problem with this post is the fact we have heard it for thirty years.

Next year is the year of the qb
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It's time. If not this draft, there is no reason to believe it will ever happen. Dorsey and Reid aren't "move up the board" kind of guys, and Clark doesn't have the balls of Washington ownership. And no, Lil Chiefy, I do not give a **** about your opinion of the Redskins owner, so just put it back in your vagina and don't even go there.
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And it has been a lot of years.

What's different from 2014 that was any different from what people said about the 2009 class in 2008?

"Stick with Croyle. Get a QB in next year's draft when there will be far better guys to choose from. Matt Ryan sucks. Joe Flacco? Psssh. You want Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, and Tim Tebow. THAT'S the real QB class!"

And what do you know? It turns out 2008 WAS the better QB class, actually.

That's why this draft maxim is goddamn near ****ing infallible: If you don't have a franchise QB, and there is a guy available to you at your pick, you take him each and every ****ing time no matter the circumstances.

I think the only shot we'd have at Geno is if we trade down to around #12 somehow and then he falls to us at #12 and Reid takes him...

and everyone is going to be all like

'omg if we take him at 12 why didn't we take him at 1'

well maybe Reid isn't in love with Geno...and has no issue with trading an asset to acquire more assets and then once he's sitting there at 12 maybe he thinks Geno is a good pick there because he added a few extra picks

but this idea people are holding on to that we may take Geno at 1 is ridiculous...it isn't going to happen. I wish there was a QB at #1 we knew we were going to take so this site wouldn't be so god damn depressing but that shipped sailed as soon as we traded for Alex Average.

Geno isn't going to be there at 12; if we don't take him at 1, the Raiders will take him at 3 if someone doesn't jump in front of them at 2. If you are the Chiefs, either take him at 1 or you have no shot at him.

I agree, but two things are working against him.

1) when he throws 35 passes in a game, he only as 2 career wins. Between Foles and Vick, the Eagles averaged 38.5 pass attempts per game.

2) he only has 20 completions of more than 20 yards over the last 2 seasons combined. Defenses will cut the field up and Alex holds the ball as bad as Cassel.

If they pass on Geno at 1, they are making a statement to the other teams that they aren't worried about Geno ending up in Oakland.

They better be sure.

Yup. Barkley probably wouldn't be there at 12.

****, if the Browns are worried about Glennon and the Bills are concerned about Nassib, you could get seriously ****ed over.

I think the 35 passes a game is overblown considering how well he did when he threw the ball 30 times a game.

I think Reid is going to use him in a completely different way. Harbaugh was very conservative while Reid is going to make a bunch of attack based plays in the short and intermediate passing game.

Ill say the same as i did for the Cassel trade...I hope it works out because I'd love to be able to enjoy football again.

The last few years the best weeks are when KC didn't play.

Jags will just have to bite the bullet and draft him. No one with the organization was here when Gabbert was drafted.

Pretend Alex Smith does a good job, he is still injury prone as hell and how many seasons is he going give us? I don't expect him being our QB start of the season 2015 for two reasons, injuries and just not being what Andy Reid is expecting him to be & that is a passing QB.

Alex Smith much like Matt Cassell can hand off all day long to Jamaal Charles but if expect him to put drives together with his arm is another story.

What a debacle. Only the Thiefs...
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I wonder if the Eagles are trying to make trade bait with Geno in case the Jags take Jordan and then they want to move down.

At this point, I'm guessing Philly or Buffalo get the penii.
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Makes me ****ing furious. They are both pieces of shit.

you have zero proof of that. All Great qbs have stability around them.

Case and point. When the mark brothers left marino, he no longer won games. When they stopped trying to upgrade the talent he stopped being anything but a first round knock out in the playoffs.

The patriots every single year upgrade on the offense. Gronk, hernandez, welker, brandon lloyd, julian edelman.

The packers, even though they had greg jennings, donald driver, james jones, yet, they still drafted randall cobb.

They didnt do that on either side of the ball for the 49ers. They signed cast offs like nate clements, antonio bryant, ashley lelie.

So for you to say that aaron rodgers, and tom brady could survive in those conditions because they are superior, thats your opinion. A simple myopic opinion. Which is perfectly understandable. You are simple, and myopic.

Brady survived in a worse situation and won three super bowls.
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Brady's first year starting was an Alex Smith type year. 2600+ yards 18 12.

After that? Over 3600 yards and over 20 tds every year. Winning two super bowls and I bet you can't name a wr without google, te either.


Because they all sucked.
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Simple is equal to Alex Smith fan
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You believe that crap you just spewed?

Tom Brady has a qb guru in Charlie Weis, their defense was loaded.

Wow. Okay, on ignore you go, because even I wont argue these stupid ass points.

Again what on offense did he have?


Just like another. When you lose you put sometime on ignore
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Yeah me too.

Troy Brown

David Patten

Vrabel was a kickass target at TE.

Ben Coates mother****er

And they all sucked.

Givens too.

Stokes was there for a minute sucked also
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Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Tight end christian fauria.

Again, this was more about a defense that had a young willie mcginnest, mike vrabel, tedi brusci, ty law, lawyer milloy, asante samuel.

Way more than about the offense which was okay. It wasnt great, but they got the job done. But it was their defense.

Tom Brady was placed in a situation to succeed. To suggest that aaron rodgers, and tom brady have been placed in ideal situations to succeed, just like matt ryan, and then to turn around and say that guys like tim couch, alex smith, david carr, werent, to a lot of people is excuses.

So, i guess ill just let people think whatever they want.

oh, and by the way. Feel free to name me the tight ends, and wr's off of alex smiths first season........

But dumb **** fan tries to say they were loaded compared to the niners early in Smith's career.


Ill agree the pats were loaded at the only spot that REALLY matters.





Qb
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Samie Parker

I don't think he realizes just how loaded the Niners have been the last couple of years.

Google was your friend here piss boy.


They all sucked.
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He doesn't realize the sky is blue
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If Alex can win 11-12 games and a postseason game with this current Chief squad I'll be impressed, heh. It's a win now move, so anything less than that is a crock of shit. Waste 2 early draft picks for 8-8? No ****ing thanks.

Soy Smith has had Vernon Davis his whole career, gore too.


Just STFU piss fan boy
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And delanie walker
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3 first round O lineman, Davis, Gore, Crabtree, an absolute loaded defense with 4 All Pro caliber players.

Chiefs have about 8 Pro Bowl quality players themselves, so there really isn't any excuse not to win games in KC with competent QB play. There will be no excuses for Alexis.

Folks - this is one of the things we've tried to warn you about w/ Alex Smith. This thread is titled:

"The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it"

It has now devolved into an Alex Smith Sucks thread. THIS is what you have to look forward to as long as he is a Chief, which, in case you've forgotten, happens officially TOMORROW.



Have an awesome day!!!

So basically Steve Bono '95 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) & Elvis Grbac '97 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) with a playoff win.

Or Joe Montana '93 (11 - 5, 2 playoff wins).

This is what we are looking forward too as fans? This is what we are rooting for and paying for?

Will this help spike merch. sales for the team? Pack the parking lot? Get KC on Monday & Sunday Night Football?

Brandon Lloyd. The guy you were pimping when the pats got him.
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Expecting him to win a SuperBowl a year after 2-14 would be a bit ridiculous don't you think? Cmon man, I'm harsh, but not that much. JFC I'm already holding a 9 win improvement to him or fail.

A 2 - 14 team with 6 Pro Bowlers. You can make an argument that some of those players were not worthy of a Pro Bowl berth. But normally a 2 - 14 team only sends the kicker or the punter to the Pro Bowl.

The 2 - 14 record had more to do with the total crap coaching staff and piss poor QB play than anything else. Don't forget, KC was only 4 - 12 the year before Marty came to town. Marty was able to get 8 wins out of the '89 team.

I understand your point but KC was not your "normal" 2 - 14 team.

Absolutely. Which is why I expect the team can make the playoffs with good QB play. Can Alex deliver? I think we got hosed, but hey he'll get a shot to prove me wrong.

That's why I really can't get to excited about next year. I can see KC going 10 - 6 / 11 - 5 and making the playoffs with another one and done.

Been down this road waaaaay to many times to get excited. Perhaps the draft will change my outlook (Geno please, would settle for Bray) but right now I can't get that excited.

lol, "Alex Piss Boy"! Mods; make it rain!
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Cassel's got the market cornered on crapping thy pants, so when the rush gets to Alex we can use Piss Boy as the go to smack on him.

I see this posted alot and I think we've only done this 3 times in the last 15 years. I'll take a one and done over a 2-14.

lmao Thinking up clever new smack for your latest, junk-assed, retread QB: welcome to the life of the Chiefs Damned...**** me.
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**** YEAH! SET THE BAR HIGH!
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http://eriklundegaard.com/media/2/kevin_bacon.jpg

.

yeah, this thread is a joke.

I has a sad.

they were not, and have not been loaded at receiver, since Terrell Owens was on the squad. They are TODAY loaded. Boldin Crabtree, manningham, kyle williams, aj jenkins, they are loaded NOW.

Last year, Braylon Edwards, Crabtree, Josh morgan.....bleh. not loaded.

Mods...can someone please lock the Geno threads?

Also these people keep talking about how Geno isn't a sure thing like Luck or RGIII and therefore is not worth the first pick... after being vehemently against the very idea of tanking or trading to get either player last year.

I got destroyed on the 49ers board when I started the suck for luck campaign. People hate the idea of tanking until they realize that one terrible just absolutely atrocious year, could lead to 15 years of success.

yes please....Geno ain't coming here

Wasn't manningham there last year? Jenkins too? Williams too?
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We will have plenty of Jaguars forum posts about Geno after we draft him. So no worries.

Never gonna happen. Geno is absolutely going #1. Just not to the Chiefs.

No one is trading with you guy. You are taking your LT.

They will trade with the Jaguars to move up.

No one is trading up to #2 when they know that #1 is up for sale. Whoopty shit, you just gave up two firsts and a third! For... star lotuleilei at #2. Because someone else gave up two firsts and a third for Geno Smith at #1.

Why do you ****ing idiots insist on thinking that teams trade with the team that wants to draft their guy? They trade with the team AHEAD of that team. And no one trades to #2 when #1 is for sale.

Welp, at this point, I hope he somehow ends up with Coach T. Make it rain, football gods.
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The only way they would trade up to #1, is if it cost less than the #2 offer. Why would they need to trade up to #1 to get a guy that isn't being taken by anyone in the top 6?

You are ****ing stupid lol

:facepalm:

Emory Hunt‏@FBallGameplan

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC

The biggest hiccup with that, is Reid/Dorsey have to have someone they want that they know can fall to them at #8. Because if they really want Fisher or Joeckel, is isn't happening at #8.

Lol, Im pretty sure they would love to trade down to #8 or even lower if the value is there in the trade.

Big IF. We have 0 indication that the Bills are even looking to trade up for Geno. For all we know they should be looking to trade up in the second round for Nassib, or get a QB in FA.

Alot of the assumptions here are just Chief fans saying what they WANT to have happen.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC</p>&mdash; Emory Hunt (@FBallGameplan) <a href="https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan/status/311892233089601536">March 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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