Yes we don’t need a repeat of the raping Veach took to get Frank Clark

Why would we trade for him? I’m not gonna replace Thornhill. Had a decent year in tackles last year.

so my initial thought is we value minkah for his versatility, but it was the moving around at miami that allegedly has him annoyed or why he's fallen out of favor there, so why would he be happy with that prospect here?

maybe it was the LB roles that pushed him over the edge? surely our scheme would not involve him playing there, doesnt seem to fit at all. so perhaps that could be the difference.

if our staff sees value with him as a hybrid slot and outside CB, and FS, then i'd absolutely pay up to our 1st for him. that hybrid combination essentially replaces fuller next year and plugs gaps this year too. perhaps leaves cap$ for jonesy as well.

I think he's saying some of that to get out of there, but I also don't think he's super thrilled to be playing in the box a lot either. He didn't really complain last year...it's likely he sees what's going on there and is like yea **** this.

I agree.

It's a violent sport in which any snap could be your last. Every season is brutal and long. Why would you want to waste a whole year of your life for a team intentionally tanking? I'd want out too. **** all that noise.

get ****ing woke mahomo hes not just a safety.

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The Chiefs aren't gonna have this guy playing LB.

I'd guess he'd be 90% CB snaps, with some looks at safety thrown in for certain situations.

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I’d flip them the 49ers pick in a heartbeat

They’ll get more than that.

I would assume so. I was responding to that tweet though.

Per PFF Fitzpatrick was the 7th best CB in passer rating allowed.

7. MINKAH FITZPATRICK, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 69.0
Fitzpatrick is the second rookie to make this list, but he’s the first player to make it who didn’t primarily play outside corner in 2018. The Dolphins had Minkah line up all over the field this past season; he spent 379 snaps as a slot corner, 281 snaps out wide and another 261 snaps as either a free or box safety. In coverage, Minkah was especially effective out of the slot, where he ranked first among cornerbacks by allowing just a 53.4 passer rating.

Of course Xavien Howard was ranked 3rd.

3. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Passer Rating Allowed: 62.6
Howard took a nice step forward during his third NFL campaign, finishing the season with a 75.3 coverage grade which bested his previous best grade by nearly 12 points (63.6 in 2017). Howard allowed 29 catches on 57 targets for 469 yards and four touchdowns to go with his league-leading seven interceptions (and he missed four games at the end of the season). The former second-round pick held opposing signal-callers to a sub-100 passer rating when targeting him in coverage in 8 of 12 games last season

From what I’ve gathered reading about it, it seems like his frustration is a lack of structure and having a plan in place. We’d use his versatility to an advantage but with a plan in place. They had him learn 6 different positions in the offseason and it sounds like the plan would change even mid week at times. Rather than having him fill in for whoever goes down, we’d have a specific role for him. I think he’d be great in the slot about 60% of the time and see another 30% on the outside and 10% at safety maybe blitzing off the edge or playing close to the line in run support. Cut out the playing LB and deep safety and simplify things and I bet he’d be a lot happier.

If Minkah can hold down the slot and we give up our 1 for him, what would you think of using fuller to try to get Pat Peterson? Maybe fuller and a mid round pick like a 3 and get a 5th back from AZ.