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Chris Meck 04-19-2019 01:34 PM

Personally, I think it's going to be either a CB (if Murphy, Greedy, or maybe Baker are there that's your 1st tier CB group) or Safety (Adderly, Thompson, possibly CGJ probably your top FS tier, talent drops off after).
I doubt it's DE/Edge because the top tier will probably be gone unless a Ferrell drops, but I doubt it. I fully expect a DE/Edge in round 2 though.

either way, I think we can all agree that by the end of round 3, we need to have nabbed a CB, a DE, and a S. So I'm cool with wherever they feel the value is at whichever time to get their guy. I'd like a WR in there too; I just don't feel solid about Tyreek being a question mark and Watkins an injury a season. Even Mahomes needs weapons.

Chris Meck 04-19-2019 01:38 PM

by the way, I think I'd draft a CB every year no matter what. The position is just so overvalued in dollars in the NFL I think you have to draft, develop, replace every few seasons in order to not have to overpay in free agency. We have what will be the most expensive QB in football, we're going to have to draft and develop the other costly positions ourselves.

SAUTO 04-19-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14215107)
If we take Adderly at 29 instead of CB then we are dumber than a box of ****ing rocks.

This is an ignorant take.

What if the CBs they think fit are gone and the safety they see as a perfect fit is sitting there?

Chargem 04-19-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14215453)
This is an ignorant take.

What if the CBs they think fit are gone and the safety they see as a perfect fit is sitting there?

Amen.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14215453)
This is an ignorant take.

What if the CBs they think fit are gone and the safety they see as a perfect fit is sitting there?

He doesn't care about that.

Chargem 04-19-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14215077)
In the 1st round, I just cannot see Veach drafting anything else than defense.

DT wont happen as Jones and Nnadi are obvious starters for the next few years.

S is unlikely as the Chiefs have Mathieu for at least 2 years plus other Watts, Lucas, etc.

LB would also surprise me in the 1st round.

DE or CB it will be.

Some fans here dont seem to realize it but the only player on contract the Chiefs will have at the end of this season at CB is Charvarius Ward.

It is like a guarantee that Veach drafts a CB in the 1st 2 rounds.

That's incorrect, they will have Tremon Smith as well.

The only DT on the roster after next year is Nnadi.

The only WR on the roster after next year are Watkins and Pringle.

I think they could take one of quite a few positions, but I sure as hell hope they choose to take a player on offense if that's the way the board falls. With a 1 and 2 2's, you can still add impact players on D with two of those three picks, just play the hand you get dealt rather than locking in on CB/DE

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2019 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14215186)
by the way, I think I'd draft a CB every year no matter what. The position is just so overvalued in dollars in the NFL I think you have to draft, develop, replace every few seasons in order to not have to overpay in free agency. We have what will be the most expensive QB in football, we're going to have to draft and develop the other costly positions ourselves.

Now this I agree with 100% There's always going to be that one guy who falls through the cracks every year, so why not continuously roll the dice late every year, and try to land the next Brandon Carr or better?

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14215453)
This is an ignorant take.

What if the CBs they think fit are gone and the safety they see as a perfect fit is sitting there?

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215464)
He doesn't care about that.

If a CB that we desired is gone, then we didn't do our job. If the Chiefs are serious about grabbing a legitimate rd 1 contributor for day one play, we HAVE to leave #29, and that's all there is to it.

If however we wish to throw some dice on the defensive coaching staff that we just wooed in and paid for, then go ahead and stay at #29, take the BPA for your needs, and keep every one of your picks.

I've already addressed this; none of the Safeties in this draft are the complete package at Single High. If all we care about is ball-hawking and NOTHING ELSE, then yes there are some guys to be had. If I were drafting for SS, then it would STILL be slim pickings, but a slightly better story overall.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14215484)
Now this I agree with 100% There's always going to be that one guy who falls through the cracks every year, so why not continuously roll the dice late every year, and try to land the next Brandon Carr or better?





If a CB that we desired is gone, then we didn't do our job. If the Chiefs are serious about grabbing a legitimate rd 1 contributor for day one play, we HAVE to leave #29, and that's all there is to it.

If however we wish to throw some dice on the defensive coaching staff that we just wooed in and paid for, then go ahead and stay at #29, take the BPA for your needs, and keep every one of your picks.

I've already addressed this; none of the Safeties in this draft are the complete package at Single High. If all we care about is ball-hawking and NOTHING ELSE, then yes there are some guys to be had. If I were drafting for SS, then it would STILL be slim pickings, but a slightly better story overall.

Define your "complete package" for a single high safety.

New World Order 04-19-2019 04:31 PM

We need a ****ing MLB who can get Ragland off the field in our base and Hitchens off when we go Nickel

That's easily our biggest need.

Give up a second and move down. I don't give a shit.

RunKC 04-19-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14215492)
We need a ****ing MLB who can get Ragland off the field in our base and Hitchens off when we go Nickel

That's easily our biggest need.

Give up a second and move down. I don't give a shit.

I think DOD, Hitchens and Attaochu are your LB’s on nickel and obvious passing downs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215488)
Define your "complete package" for a single high safety.

Anticipation, tracking, TACKLING, finishing plays. Realizing there's more to football than the passing game and interceptions. Practicing sound fundamentals instead of trying to set up for the big hit and in turn losing yardage and getting burned.

And guess what? The only guy that got marks for the things I've outlined to you OUTSIDE of the ball-hawking was the kid from WSU Huskies, and he doesn't project as a pro single high per reports.

Adderly was praised for his tracking but condemned for his fundamentals as well as the fact that he played in a division that might as well be where Fisher came from. I see that kid getting his ass burned in the NFL, and deeply. IMO, every single one of those guys that you would want to take for single high is going to take more work to properly function at this level than one should have to invest in a first round pick.
And you're right; there aren't any Eric Berry's in this draft. But there ARE a lot of Bernard Pollards, so to speak.

So...

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14215492)
We need a ****ing MLB who can get Ragland off the field in our base and Hitchens off when we go Nickel

That's easily our biggest need.

Give up a second and move down. I don't give a shit.

And the only two worth a **** are likely to be gone before the draft hits #15.

kccrow 04-19-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14215518)
And the only two worth a **** are likely to be gone before the draft hits #15.

No team has ever found a linebacker out of the top 15.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-19-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14215537)
No team has ever found a linebacker out of the top 15.

I'm sure they have, but a TOP LB? In this draft?

kccrow 04-19-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14215541)
I'm sure they have, but a TOP LB? In this draft?

Many of the top LBs in the league didn't come from the first round. It's a traditionally undervalued position. There are other LBs in this draft that are pretty good depending on need.

For KC, in particular, I'd say Mack Wilson, Bobby Okereke, Cole Holcomb, Vosean Joseph, Germaine Pratt, and Blake Cashman are the higher ones on my list.

I'd like if KC moved up for Wilson in Round 2 if they don't make a move in round 1.


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