Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10628009)

Spent yesterday and today in Atlanta. I wore a Chiefs shirt yesterday and had about 20 people randomly come up to me excited about Murray. Everyone commenting about how we got a crazy steal and that he was going to be a great NFL quarterback. They ****ing LOVE that kid down here.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10628012)

I remember all the Iowans who wanted to talk to me about Tony Moeaki when I wore my Chiefs stuff down there.

Good times.

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10628017)

Still think Moeaki had the goods to be a solid player in the league. Kid just can't stay healthy.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10628032)

Absolutely. I put him in the Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow category of busts, which is a far kinder place to be rather than the Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims category.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10628032)

Absolutely. I put him in the Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow category of busts, which is a far kinder place to be rather than the Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims category.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10628043)

I think we need to add a third category for the Victory Riley/John Tait/Larry Johnson/Glenn Dorsey/Tyson Jackson level of guys who managed to produce, but never quite to the level of their selection.

Probably harsh, but to me, first rounders who end up playing for other teams before they're 30 are just another kind of draft failure.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10628043)

I think we need to add a third category for the Victory Riley/John Tait/Larry Johnson/Glenn Dorsey/Tyson Jackson level of guys who managed to produce, but never quite to the level of their selection.

Probably harsh, but to me, first rounders who end up playing for other teams before they're 30 are just another kind of draft failure.

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10628050)

I don't think you can possibly label LJ as a bust. Sure, he's one of the most despised athletes to ever play for the Chiefs, but for three straight years he was better than anyone at his position in the world. He put up historical numbers in some categories both for the team and the league. I think it's easy to dismiss what he did because we don't like him, but if even Jamaal had a year like one of those carrying the ball we'd shit a brick. Look at his numbers...they are borderline shocking.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10628056)

I never had a problem with LJ, but I think longevity is really a key factor when it comes to the success/failure of high pick. That's why you don't generally draft running backs in the 1st round.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10628060)

It wasn't that long ago that three went in the top five picks.

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10628053)

I like Murray, but I'm not gonna get excited about a 5th rd QB.

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10628060)

It wasn't that long ago that three went in the top five picks.