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Decision to be made on #1 four days before draft (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271667)

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547711)

Wait, we're zeroed in on Joeckel?

Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547515)

Whoever said it was right, this year is going to be 09 minus Stafford.

Geno is better than Stafford at the same stage.

And infinitely more mature.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9547745)

Geno is better than Stafford at the same stage.

And infinitely more mature.

Stafford had a better arm IMO.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9547743)

Pretty much.

Link?

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9547743)

Pretty much.

How are we zeroed in on Joeckel?? Right now its BPA. Thats Geno however Fisher > Joeckel

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9547571)

Fisher's one of the best LTs I've seen. I think he's going to be a ****ing stud.

Joeckel... eh. Not so much. I have no clue why people like Joeckel more than Fisher. Yeah, Central Michigan isn't aTm, but just look at highlight and game footage of each guy.

Fisher's one of the only LTs I've seen that looks flashy. He's mean, tough, insanely intelligent, and was a ****ing brick wall to any defender who faced him (Central Michigan DID play some tough opponents this year like Michigan State, too). You watch Joeckel and you think he could be good, but he does a LOT of back pedaling. With good footwork, yes, but that's his main tool in protection. He basically just makes the path to the QB longer for the rusher.

He will face some wicked **** pass rushers in the NFL, and they will abuse him hard if he thinks that same shit will work like it did in college.

I don't care if it was the SEC. The jump from even the SEC to the pros is HUGE. Either you become more versatile (which he's capable of doing, but hasn't shown it to the degree that Fisher has) or you get ****ed.

If you want that guy, then you draft Barrett Jones with your third rounder, though I think he's gone in the second.

Three time first team All-American at three different line positions and won the Outland Trophy at Left Tackle his junior year.

He's the best offensive lineman in this draft. Big, very smart and plays as nasty and mean as I've ever seen a offensive lineman play.

I have no idea why he's not getting the same press as guys like Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson (who wouldn't be the OU lineman people would be talking about as a first rounder if Don Stephenson stayed in school and came out this year).

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547751)

Stafford had a better arm IMO.

yup

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9547752)

Link?

He's the perceived best LT on the board and we're probably gonna trade Albert. We've been high on him for awhile.

I want Fisher, but eh Joeckel is good too.

I like how the Chiefs have been opening shopping Albert for a month now but people here still don't think they plan on drafting a LT. Come on now.

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547772)

I like how the Chiefs have been opening shopping Albert for a month now but people here still don't think they plan on drafting a LT. Come on now.

Im sure theyre probably taking an OT, but Im still hoping for Geno. Will I be disappointed? Likely. But wont lose sleep over it.

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9547772)

I like how the Chiefs have been opening shopping Albert for a month now but people here still don't think they plan on drafting a LT. Come on now.

I will say that these GMs lie all the time, this LT pick has been the pick since they've taken Albert. Every year it wasn't a LT.

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9547784)

I will say that these GMs lie all the time, this LT pick has been the pick since they've taken Albert. Every year it wasn't a LT.

How many of those years did the Chiefs have the #1 overall pick?

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9547666)

Yep, it's deep for defensive line and top heavy for tackles. Just because kc doesn't necessarily need a tackle does not mean this is a weak draft class for tackles. In fact, it's probably the best draft class for tackles since 2008.

What?

How is this a deep tackle draft?

Johnson is a converted QB, DE and TE.

Joeckel wasn't even the best offensive tackle on his college team.

Fisher played at Central Michigan and will have a steep curve ahead of him.

DJ Fluker is most likely a guard.

Long and Pugh are just guys.

In fact, I like guys like Ricky Wagner, Tanner Hawkinson and Oday Aboushi as much as Johnson, Fisher and Joeckel.

And, as I said previously, I'd take Barrett Jones before any of them.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9547792)

Joeckel this year then you can take Lewan next year!

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.