Ehh that im not sure of. I know he could get more out of the players than Romeo (that's not saying much). One of these Qb's pans out sure why cant this team contend for a title?

With that said I'm not really interested in watching the Tampa 2 or the 4-3 defense ever again.

The problem is that Dungy's teams always under performed.

Those Tampa teams were loaded defensively and had good skill players on offense but the offenses and QB's were not successful. What Dilfer accomplished in Baltimore should have happened in Tampa or at least should have been in Super Bowls.

In Indy, Dungy had Edgerrin James, Manning, Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison, but his teams struggled in the playoffs and were weak defensively, which is supposedly Dungy's area of expertise.

The reality is the he never "coached up" his teams or got them over the hump. His teams improved because of personnel improvements, not through scheme or coaching.

Dungy is a smart coach I would think he would come up with something different on D

We'll get to see how much of that was Dungy and how much of that was Manning. Remember the huge knock on Manning was he could never win the big game.

If Marty had either of those guys he'd have won multiple Super Bowls.

Except for one solid season from Joe Montana where they went to the AFC championship game, Marty has never had quarterbacks like Roethlisberger and Manning. Instead, Marty had guys like Kosar and DeBerg and Bono and Grbac and Phyllis Rivers.

I'm not real interested in hiring a guy, hoping that he "changes" from what he used to do. You bring a guy in because you like what he does and you want him to do that here.

The first is how you end up with Romeo or some bullshit. In my experience, guys in those positions don't tend to change.

food for thought:

“@CoachCox8100: @TonyDungy who should chiefs take with first or 2nd pick in the draft?” I would take Georgia QB Aaron Murray if he comes out

You'd probably be better off ignoring history than misreading it and overreacting to it.

Norv has never won a Super Bowl so he still has potential. Dungy and Cowher became all used up the minute they left their Super Bowl teams (although if they'd have hung on with those teams they would have continued to have potential and may well have eventually repeated because we have examples of coaches who win more than once with the same team).

Other coaches with more potential than Dungy or Cowher include Todd Haley, Herm Edwards, and Gunther Cunningham who are all still Super Bowl virgins.

This...

ROFL

I'm not misreading anything.

No coach that has won a Super Bowl with one team has won it again with a different team.

That's a fact. A cold, hard fact.

Get used to it.

And I suppose Marty wasn't at all responsible for that, was he?

:bravo:

Also, you might want to read what I said again.

I said I'm not interested in COMPLETELY ignoring history.

That means that I'm not going to make my decision based SOLELY on that but I'm also not going to ignore that as a potential factor during the process.

It does matter.

I'll 2nd that.