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Baby Lee 03-29-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Deadwood is a good show but there is just something about a show set in that time period that makes me cringe with that much of the language being explicit that turned me off the show. I of course grew up with the old westerns and it just feels incongruous to hear so many fucks and c*cksuckers. I am by no means a prude nor am I offended it just somehow causes me to drift.

Rent the DVDs and check out Milch's interviews. Basically, he defends the language in two ways.
First, a lot of these guys were used to heading up livestock, wagon train, bull sleds, and those gutteral, sharp words were effective in keeping the muscle in line.
Bleeding into the second; This was a land on no laws. It was Indian territory by treaty and the Feds were casting a blind eye to them looting it, while offering them no formal protection. And the town was growing by leaps and bounds, a few hundred in the fall, 100,000 the next spring, 1/2 a mill the next year, mostly lawless, wanted, shifty types. And among all those strangers, all you had was your 'presence.' So everybody was a bunch of Tony Montana's, with their word and their balls, neither to be broken by nobody. And the notion spread that heaping on the obscenities told people you were not someone to be trifled with, without the necessity of killing someone or beating their balls off.

This wasn't the lonely prairie of Bonanza, where you could sip iced tea on the porch. It was an instant urban scene with lots of money to be made by being rougher, tougher, smarter and harder working than anyone else.

Your critique is a little like seeing "Do the Right Thing" and saying "that was nothing like the New York movies I remember like "Annie Hall.""

Otter 03-29-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02
I have not read any of this thread

Well my wife and I are brand new to sopranos we just got done watching all the ones they had on HBO on demand, Cant wait for the next one, I had seen a few episodes from the Previous seasons but never got into it or never had HBO, How long is their current contract with HBO did i join in too late?

You're going to miss alot of references and back-story that happened before this season. And when I say "alot"...

The show, IMHO, is actually that good where it's worth spending $9 on a Netflix account, getting caught up and then watching the finale before joining in at this point if you really want to enjoy it.

It's a revolutionary piece of television, like Twin Peaks meets Goodfellas.

keg in kc 03-29-2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Deadwood is a good show but there is just something about a show set in that time period that makes me cringe with that much of the language being explicit that turned me off the show. I of course grew up with the old westerns and it just feels incongruous to hear so many fucks and c*cksuckers. I am by no means a prude nor am I offended it just somehow causes me to drift.

I think we've had this discussion before. You grew up in the generation that saw the west idealized in films, and that's become "reality" to you, despite the fact it's no more real than Star Trek.

Logical 03-29-2006 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
I think we've had this discussion before. You grew up in the generation that saw the west idealized in films, and that's become "reality" to you, despite the fact it's no more real than Star Trek.

I know you are correct.

HemiEd 03-29-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Anybody besides me find the whole make a movie subplot trite, nay inane? Especially them pratling on about how the body parts would not all end up in the same dump.

Agreed, it is the worst writing I have witnessed on series since the beginning. It almost pissed me off I was so dissapointed.

Otter 03-29-2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Agreed, it is the worst writing I have witnessed on series since the beginning. It almost pissed me off I was so dissapointed.

Just out of curiosity, what aspects of the writing are you dissapointed about?

Otter 04-01-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee
I found it hilarious, and it's probably one of the more true-to-life aspects of the show. Harkens back to Chrissy and his buddy expanding into skimming that stock trading house back in Season 1. The thing of their is always in search of the next emerging market. Gambling and protection are their bread and butter. Larceny they pick up when they can. Drug trade is an avenue, but not universally embraced [like they say in The Godfather, leave that to the schwartzes].
So they're on the lookout for these avenues, airline vouchers, stock houses, internet porn, phone-sex, regular porn [notice Carmine jr referencing his porn line as one of his 'sub-species'].
And remember, before he was made, Chrissie had wide-eyed dreams of being a movie-mogul. Tony had to talk him out of leaving the life for it.

Tony didn’t talk him out of making films as much as he approached him with an ultimatum; 'pursue film or the family, you can't have both'. Christ-a-phuh agreed to pursue becoming a part of T’s crew with the understanding that he would leave film making behind him.

He’s essentially breaking an agreement which allowed him to become soldier and now capo.

Also, the film he wants to make, Saw meets Godfather II, “Butcher” (heh) has an undertone of what everyone thinks happened between T and Ade the night they got in the car accident.

Kylo Ren 04-02-2006 07:22 PM

Season 6
Epsiode 4


Here we go..................

SLAG 04-02-2006 09:02 PM

Thought this was a good episode but what was with the rapper shooting , just a little silly IMHO

Kylo Ren 04-02-2006 09:04 PM

That was an iteresting episode. There wasn't so much action, but probably more to think about than any recent episdoes. There's allot of spiritualism and "meaning of life" issues and questions. Paulie seems ready to blow a gasket. I wonder if Tony will get religious?

Otter 04-03-2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan
That was an iteresting episode. There wasn't so much action, but probably more to think about than any recent episdoes. There's allot of spiritualism and "meaning of life" issues and questions. Paulie seems ready to blow a gasket. I wonder if Tony will get religious?

When someone say's “meaning of life” I think it’s typically interpreted as “why are we here” and “what is our purpose”. Outside of Tony’s kinder and gentler look at the world I think the theme was more along the lines of conflict between who we are, how we got here and how that relates to Carmela accepting she's a mob wife, the kids now fully aware of who thier Dad is and T's upcoming (my guess) dilema of who he is, the damage he's done and how he drug the only people he loves into 'that' world.

Chase is laying on the symbolism and metaphors a little heavy. I love trying to dig through the above and put it into perspective but wow, too much to interpret.

That was hilarious when the TV hit the pavement and the old lady went by on her scooter oblivious to what just happened.

Chris rivaled his “but his apartment looked like shit” line with the “I don’t think that way” when he and T were having the philosophical debate.

I got nothing better at the moment, too tired.

Garcia Bronco 04-03-2006 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02
Thought this was a good episode but what was with the rapper shooting , just a little silly IMHO


Rappers are silly...It hought it was funny watching real G's listening to fake G's

Chiefnj 04-03-2006 08:11 AM

My DVR cutoff the end of the show. What are the previews for next week?

KevB 04-03-2006 09:19 AM

How about the doctor.....I just found Jimmy Hoffa's body. Heh.

SquirrellyBastard 04-03-2006 09:47 AM

Paulie's crossed the line.....he's next to go...


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