Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11134710)

I'm glad you don't coach. Every time we came out in base personnel, they walked woodson down into the box and he chased JC down. Every. Play. Kelce missing some key blocks at the LOS didnt help, either.. We could barely run the ball in that set.

When we spread them out its much easier to see the lanes and gives us the option to check to a bubble to kelce/DAT.

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11134652)

I think Reids biggest flaw is his goal line play calling, he's always getting cute down there. Alex Smith is awful at passing in the red zone yet tubby thinks its a fantastic idea to put the ball in his hands in short yardage situations when the Chiefs have the best rb in the league. Philly didn't run him out with his head on a spike for nothing. Get used to it, he will cost you games over and over.

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11134712)

Reid is a tough one for me. Yes he is frustrating at times but he also is the reason the Chiefs aren't a complete embarrassment anymore.

The playoff game last year when he kept throwing the ball and stopping the clock in the second half about did it for me though. Either he had no confidence in Davis not to fumble or he just went full reerun I have no clue.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11134775)

Not sure where last night puts us, but dude... we were #3 in redzone scoring going into last night.

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11134811)

I said smith is awful in the red zone not your team, Charles is money and usually hits paydirt for you guys.

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 11134753)

that's a fair/legit point.

I was coming from the view point that they were killing us badly (it seemed) when we lined up in gun. I don't have the numbers, I just remember seeing them line up and thinking "here comes another run", ball would be snapped, and we get crushed.

again though...i think their DL was just dominant a majority of the game and were all over us like ugly on an ape.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11133278)

This is what everyone was afraid of when we talk about our offense's limitations.

It's not that we want to see tons of yards or sexy passes to wide receivers, it's that we'll NEED it at some point in time.

Tonight, we needed a QB that could make all the throws and we got a guy that takes sacks with :40 on the clock with no timeouts. A guy that is afraid to throw the ball 15 yards down field for fear of.. what? I don't even ****ing know.

Alex Smith has proven time and time again that when he can't lean on the running game, he doesn't make the plays necessary to win football games.

Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11135320)

Was it the running game or the passing game that put 17pts on the board last night to give the Chiefs the lead? It was the passing game. It was Smith making plays in the second half despite his shit o line and league worst WR core.

The sack? You are going to bitch about the sack? Guy came through the middle of the line obscured, but untouched and is in Smith's face within two seconds of the snap.

Kelce dropped the first down pass... ball went right through his hands and hits the turf. Hammond is for some inexplicable reason 4 yards past the line to gain on a 4th and long timing play.

I thought Smith's play was flat in the first half along with the rest of the team, but he was playing well in the second half.

Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11135320)

Was it the running game or the passing game that put 17pts on the board last night to give the Chiefs the lead? It was the passing game. It was Smith making plays in the second half despite his shit o line and league worst WR core.



The sack? You are going to bitch about the sack? Guy came through the middle of the line obscured, but untouched and is in Smith's face within two seconds of the snap.



Kelce dropped the first down pass... ball went right through his hands and hits the turf. Hammond is for some inexplicable reason 4 yards past the line to gain on a 4th and long timing play.



I thought Smith's play was flat in the first half along with the rest of the team, but he was playing well in the second half.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11135353)

That was the 3rd quarter, dude. There was still the threat of the run. Actually, we only scored that TD to Fasano because they thought we would run and Jamaal did ALL the work on the second TD.

Alex made some plays when he started going down field for sure. He balled out for exactly 1 quarter. I'm going to need my $68 million man to turn in at least 2 good quarters when we need it.

And that sack was absolutely atrocious. You CANNOT take a sack there under any circumstances. Any great QB would recognize where the blitz might come from pre-snap and know where his receivers are so he can throw it their feet if worst came to worst.

Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11135387)

TD drives came in the 3rd and 4th qtr. Jamaal did great work on the TD pass yes, but there were still a number of good passing plays to get them in that position to begin with. Run was getting stuffed because the line was getting driven into the back field on damn near every play.



Your gripe on the sack is BS. Smith is one of the more mobile QB's in the league. He'd already alluded a sure sack earlier in the drive. His eyes were downfield and the blitz came up the middle untouched. Wilson took a similar sack like that last week and no one was putting that on Wilson. Our line sucks. We know our line sucks.... I don't know why we pretend it doesn't by blaming the QB for line suckage.



I think Smith should have pulled the trigger on Bowe in the end zone. That one is his. He went conservative and opted for the sure lead with a FG than risking a potential drive killing pick. He opted to take the lead and rely on the strength of the team which is the defense. It's held against far better teams the past two weeks, no reason not to think it wouldn't against a much weaker team. It didn't. I thought he should have pulled the trigger, but the smart play was probably what he did.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11135352)

It was also Smith ACTUALLY THROWING to Dwayne Bowe.

You know, using those guys on the edges of the field for something other than downfield blocking...