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Holladay 03-28-2024 12:14 PM

Did he have to clean up the brains like Vincent in Pulp Fiction?

What about Alex Baldwin?

Pablo 03-28-2024 12:31 PM

https://www.jacksongov.org/files/sha...ageimage&w=480

She's tuff on crime. But not really at all.

Womble 03-28-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17460661)
https://www.jacksongov.org/files/sha...ageimage&w=480

She's tuff on crime. But not really at all.

Looks like type to pursue offenses. Not criminal ones, just stuff that gets her offended like assuming her/their gender.

Lzen 03-28-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17460534)
I feel for them, but if people got charged for guns going off accidentally, Dick Cheney would be in jail. They would have had to prove that the guy was acting negligently, and it sounds like they didn't have the evidence to do it.

Sounds like the dude was waving the gun around. And they had already told him to point it at the floor. If that isn't negligent homicide, I don't know what is.

Pablo 03-28-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17460749)
Looks like type to pursue offenses. Not criminal ones, just stuff that gets her offended like assuming her/their gender.

You're onto something here.

Lzen 03-28-2024 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17460625)
Easy way to get out of Jury duty...just say that based on what you've already heard the defendant must be guilty.

Uhhh.....yeah....no. It doesn't work that way. I take it that you have never been on a jury.

The 2 times I was on a jury, during jury selection, they never said anything about the case during their questioning of potential jurors.

DaFace 03-28-2024 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17460771)
Uhhh.....yeah....no. It doesn't work that way. I take it that you have never been on a jury.

The 2 times I was on a jury, during jury selection, they never said anything about the case during their questioning of potential jurors.

In the three times I've been through the selection process, they didn't specifically say who the defendant was, but they would say things like, "Do you think that a person who is blackout drunk is capable of making a conscious decision?" so you knew the gist of what the case was going to come down to.

PAChiefsGuy 03-28-2024 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17460795)
In the three times I've been through the selection process, they didn't specifically say who the defendant was, but they would say things like, "Do you think that a person who is blackout drunk is capable of making a conscious decision?" so you knew the gist of what the case was going to come down to.

That's a stupid question. Obviously a person blackout drunk doesn't know wtf they are doing.

DaFace 03-28-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17460805)
That's a stupid question. Obviously a person blackout drunk doesn't know wtf they are doing.

Ah, but now we're back to the fun nuances of the law. If a person is blackout drunk and commits a criminal act, are they capable of making a premeditated decision to do it? That kind of thing is what a lot of "first degree" vs. "second degree" kinds of convictions hinge on.

I wish I had the deck they gave us in the jury room to reference for this. There was all sorts of flow charty stuff in there that was fascinating (in an academic way like this) to think through.

ghak99 03-28-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17460771)
Uhhh.....yeah....no. It doesn't work that way. I take it that you have never been on a jury.

The 2 times I was on a jury, during jury selection, they never said anything about the case during their questioning of potential jurors.

I live in a rural area. Between the sheriff, city pd, and the docket you have a really good idea of who is coming up for trial unless it's a change of venue from out of the area. For whatever reason, our circuit doesn't get many of those.

Here, they absolutely start with figuring out if you know any of the people involved. If you partied with the wrong crowd growing up, there's a 50% chance you're getting the exit with a "Ya, I grew up with him, his brother has always been a thief but I will give him a fair shake on this if chosen". Nope, excused with the quickness every time. If that doesn't work, the current PA and my family have ties so the defense will throw up a hell no from that side as well.

I assume the above sounds crazy to someone in a metro area where no one knows anyone the majority of the time.

PAChiefsGuy 03-28-2024 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17460817)
Ah, but now we're back to the fun nuances of the law. If a person is blackout drunk and commits a criminal act, are they capable of making a premeditated decision to do it? That kind of thing is what a lot of "first degree" vs. "second degree" kinds of convictions hinge on.

I wish I had the deck they gave us in the jury room to reference for this. There was all sorts of flow charty stuff in there that was fascinating (in an academic way like this) to think through.

That's true.

I am a huge Law & Order fan so I know how complicated these issues can get. Drinking is very dangerous and I wish it was taken more seriously because one bad mistake when you are blackout drunk can ruin or at least seriously damage your life. You may not even remember wtf you did.

Anyway back on topic hindsight is 20/20 but some of these defense lawyers make it very hard for judges and prosecutors to lock some of these guys up. It's not as black and white as it seems.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-28-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17460604)
Why don't you copy and paste some Reddit posts on the subject pretending they're your own thoughts, loser?

Didn't he also post a "fake girlfriend " years ago?

staylor26 03-28-2024 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17461302)
Didn't he also post a "fake girlfriend " years ago?

Wait, what?

Titty Meat 03-28-2024 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17461307)
Wait, what?

He did like 15 years ago?


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