OF from Astros. Speed/power, Ks a ton.

Just a backup

"hit lefties at a .253/.370/.455 clip throughout his career"

Per mlbtr

What did we give up?

He was just a waiver claim. Could mean Cain is going on the DL

This is the acquisition that wins championships.

Beat me to it. Excellent platoon option.

other POS to throw into the mix in the OF


still leaves gaping wound at 2B



did they just make a move so they could say they did something?

He's basically a better version of Frenchy

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Justin maxwell. 348/488 vs lefties. To royals.

Interesting.

So who gets sent down/waived?

Probably merits its own thread

How is Maxwell's smile?

Cain to the DL is my bet

Looks like he crushes lefties. Well, OK. Hope we actually use him that way, and that we didn't give up much.

6'5" 220 lbs... and he's not up for arbitration until after next season. Hits lefties pretty well. Not a terrible addition.

I hope Chris Getz. Go with Tejada/Johnson at 2B.

5-OF alignment. Maxwell gives them more thump against LHP, which is needed.

It would be interesting to go:
Gordon
Maxwell
Hosmer
Butler

Against LHP and see how the top of that lineup produces.

So we need a Second baseman and we get a #4 Outfielder. Classic Dayton Moore.

I assume we're platooning him with Lough. David doesn't have much of a split, but Maxwell's split is huge. He's pretty bad against right-handed pitching.

Hey if it's Getz, then I'm all in on this trade

Except Maxwell takes walks. Lots of them. Similar otherwise (big, good power when connecting, has done well against LHP in his career).

As much as a soccer thread would :)

Withholding judgment till we find out what we gave up.

What about Hunter Pence?

I'm good with this trade - I actually like it. I wanted a Power Hitting OF, and a platoon guy works in this scenario. We still need a 2B, but I certainly don't think this falls under the "Classic Dayton Moore" mantra.

Maxwell has also struck out 33 times in 40 games.

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These stats are weird. Strikes out a lot, but also walks a ton. Might have power depending on if 2012 was real. Murders lefties.

Per Bob Dutton we gave up minor league pitcher Kyle Smith.

How is his defense? I wonder if he will be more of a pinch hitter than a straight up platoon player.

Trade deadline is always dead, and will be until young cost-controlled players start making more money and vets start making less. Since this won't happen, the e(x) for young players adjusted for salary will continue to be sky high and hence un-tradeable.

If Cain has trouble coming back, then if you staple Dyson and Maxwell together, you might have a decent outfielder.

He could debut tomorrow against Diamond.

Big difference between picking up a guy off waivers and shipping out a lotto ticket (what I expect happens with Maxwell) and what the Giants would demand for Pence (if they're even really moving him).

OK, out. That's absolutely reeruned.

For Kyle Smith?....

I'm not as into the minors as Duncan or some of you other guys, but that doesn't seem like a good deal for us

Kyle Smith was a fourth round pick in 2011. He is pitching 2.85 in A ball

Don't really like this. guy is in single a but still has great era numbers

Well.. I still don't HATE the deal, but I like it a lot less considering Kyle Smith had a lot of promise. But trading a guy in A ball for a guy that can help the Major League Team now.. I'm ok with.

Well, that..... is certainly going all-in for 2014.

Yikes. That's awful. Kyle Smith has some game.

Go home, Dayton. You're drunk.

Total Nashville Predators type move on the trade deadline.

Smith has some value. He's physically maxed out (small and polished) but could be an effective end-of-rotation starter. Has put up good numbers at every level of his career and was - predictably - having a nice year in Wilmington.

I don't mind moving Smith to improve the major league roster, but they gave him up for much less than what he was worth.

Jesus. Smith has more long-term value right now than the main pieces in the deal that acquired Ian Kennedy. He's a GREAT second or third piece that is usually a key part of completing a bigger deal.

Well I was dreading a Zimmer for Kendrick type move, so this isn't so bad relatively speaking.
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You have to keep in mind that our A+ team is in a pitcher's park, and in a pitcher-friendly league. So high-2 ERA isn't as phenomenal as it may look, but still. Even though the failure rate for that type of pitching prospect is pretty high, it seems like an awfully steep price to pay for the right-handed half of an outfield platoon.

So, did someone whack Cain's knee with a crowbar last night or something?

Lets call the defense a wash. For 2013, we may have gained about +.150 OPS for maybe about 80-100 AB. To the nearest tenth, how many wins is that worth?

i don't want a young guy Dlough to platoon

Justin Maxwell says he was surprised by trade but eager to get to Royals. Said he needs blue spikes.

Zimmer is untouchable. I expect him to break camp with the team and compete for a rotation spot next Spring. It would take something fierce for Dayton to move a guy who's going to the rotation very soon. Part of me thinks he could help the big league club right now.

Bob dutton got a question about Kyle Smith's stuff, and he said he "got guys out".

Gee Bob, ya think. Dude is an idiot on twitter.

Well he was 2.0 war player last year, this year he is at .4

This feels like the move a GM would make if you told him that he must make the playoffs by the end of 2014 or he's fired.

Weird. Cain supposedly was about to come back to the lineup (although we know how that works with the Royals).

If Cain's going on the DL, the trade makes sense. Otherwise, we have 5 OFs, and that would suggest a Maxwell-Lough platoon with Dyson as a Herbie Washington, or occasionally spelling Cain vs. RHP.

I dunno, that kinda seems too fragmented for me. We'll see.

I've always ready Smith probably ends up in the bullpen. If that is the case we have plenty of bullpen help I don't mind moving one that is in A ball.

Not the trade I was looking for, but i think Maxwell helps the team if Cain is hurt long term and is better than Dyson.

0.3 wins.

DM, proving once again, that he's a mother****ing stooge.

He's a Right Handed bat who hits lefties really well, has some speed and some power.. why wouldn't we want him for a smallish pitcher in A ball?

Yeah, this immediately raises questions about Cain.

This only makes sense if Cain is hurt....otherwise this does NOTHING for this year or 2014

It's about the smallish pitcher's value.

I don't mind moving Kyle Smith for big-league help. I mind moving him in an overpay.

The trade deadline has passed.

Which doesn't really mean much for a couple hours. Most years, at least 1 or 2 trades take another hour to be known if they were submitted to MLB for approval in the final minutes.

Yay 2b is still shit

I'm telling you, I fully expect to hear Cain to the 60 Day DL

If Cain is hurt, then this makes a lot more sense.

More reports are starting to trickle in. Apparently the scouts are not very high on Smith at all, they think he's been smoke and mirrors in Wilmington.

I love Dutton and his responses back to the morons that send him questions. The best part is that people expect him to give him opinion on everything and he only says what he has been told from his sources. Very rarely speculates.

Per Ervin Santana

Yessssssss!!!!!!
Lets go get em!!!!!
#SecondHalfIsOurs

LMAO

Man, I'd rather have this to platoon against lefties:

284/.336/.466

Ervin Santana has just announced that he was not traded.

Keith Law wasn't concerned after Rany went ape shit and told him to chill its a low level prospect not worth anything

.

Yep and our best option is Miguel Tejada who surprisingly can still produce.

So he's a conduit of stupidity. Sounds like a lot to love.

Dayton kept a guy who's going to be gone just so they can finish over .500 lol brilliant

The scouts have been crackerjack so far under Moore.

Cooper, Parks and Law all agree on it.

That's my Holy Trinity of Baseball Prospect guys.

I will step off the ledge.

Ken Rosenthal's twitter is basically a feed of what teams are not doing. Just nothing out there unless you went crazy.
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