This for the mother****ing win!

So, are our chances still good?

Geno will not play in the senior bowl. The four QB's who will play are Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson, Mike Glennon, and EJ Manuel

Sucks but hopefully he shines in proday and combine and it wont matter. Aside from Wilson and maybe Glennon, qb scouting the senior bowl is a turd this year.

He wont throw at the combine and his measurables, other than height, don't really matter to me.

Is that final?

I think it's an assumption.

I was just wondering since last year each squad carried 3 Qbs, not two.

He better go to the Senior Bowl.

Ouch!! The latest from Bucky Brooks:


1) Geno Smith, West Virginia

Smith was one of the game's hottest quarterback prospects after a sizzling early-season run saw him put up ridiculous numbers directing the Mountaineers' high-powered attack. Smith dazzled scouts with his arm strength, accuracy and touch while displaying exceptional poise in the pocket. However, Smith faltered down the stretch against the tougher defenses of the Big 12; scouts started to have concerns about his ability to find his secondary options in the route progression when opponents take away his primary receiver with blanket coverage. He struggled to consistently identify the open receiver in games against Oklahoma, Kansas State and Texas Tech, a trend that continued in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl against Syracuse. Although Smith completed 66.7 percent of his passes with two touchdowns and zero interceptions, he was sacked three times and repeatedly looked confused when the Orange took away his No. 1 option. As a result, Syracuse blew out West Virginia, 38-14.

Plan for success: To capitalize on Smith's outstanding skills as a quick-rhythm pocket passer, an NFL offensive coordinator would be wise to incorporate several spread concepts. Bubble screens, slants and various seam throws are staples of the Mountaineers' offensive package, so using those routes as a foundation should help make Smith comfortable. In addition, the utilization of a play-action vertical passing game from the shotgun would create the big-play opportunities that Smith feasted on while directing Dana Holgorsen's offense.

Pro comparison: Jason Campbell

"Failed to identify open receivers"

Wow. What kind of moron scouts are friends with Bucky Brooks?

He's Jason Campbell if Jason Campbell:

1. Didn't have a shitty release.

2. Didn't hold the ball forever.

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
The Chiefs are a disgrace. Kansas City needs to clean house in the front office. Scott Pioli has had years to address the quarterback position, but has failed to land a good starter or a capable backup. Even Jaguars GM Gene Smith landed a better backup quarterback than what Pioli signed in Brady Quinn. That has to change this offseason, and Geno Smith would be a good place to start.

Entering his bowl game, Smith has completed 71 percent of his passes this season for 4,004 yards, 40 touchdowns and six interceptions in 2012. He started the year on fire, but was shut down by Kansas State and Texas Tech. Smith played better in the month of November.

The 6-foot-3, 214-pounder has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire fastballs into tight windows and has phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. The senior needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.

Smith had an excellent 2011 season for the Mountaineers, too. The junior completed 66 percent of his passes for 4,385 yards with 31 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He also ran for 180 yards and two scores. The West Virginia signal-caller played his heart out against LSU's talented defense with 463 yards passing.

Ouch? It wasn't even accurate.

Failed to identify open recievers.....against Oklahoma????? Did we watch different games????

Yea the Campbell comparison isnt accurate.

Lots of dumb in this evaluation, don't even know where to start.

Is Geno attending the East-West shrine game?

Geno Smith has a really quick release but I've thought he holds the ball for long at times. But, at the same time, it's hard to fault a QB for holding the ball too long when he completes 72% of his passes and doesn't get sacked that much if I'm not mistaken.

Petro just called Todd McShay's latest mock draft "asinine".

"One QB in the 1st round and not until #8 overall? Asinine."

anyone is better then who we had in cassel, quinn, stanzi. count me in

IMO, Geno really ****ed up in the Pinstripe Bowl and he'll need to outshine Tyler Wilson during Senior Bowl week to gain #1 overall status again.

While there is some truth to what you say, I find it quite ridiculous that Geno would get penalized for a bowl game performance when Tyler Wilson couldn't even get his team to play in one.

I like Tyler Wilson, but: :rolleyes:
Too much weight is being put on the Pinstripe bowl vs the rest of his career at WV.

It was the last thing the scouts saw and it was against an opponent that he lost three times prior to the game that supposedly he studied film like a madman to beat. I wasn't expecting Geno to destroy Syracuse , but I wanted to see a solid outing at least. Again, I don't like to make excuses for a QB, but Arkansas had absolute dogshit surrounding Wilson. ( O-line and defense)

Finish the Reid deal, draft Geno...Best coach and only young franchise potential QB in the division **** YEAH

Smith's offensive line wasn't good either.

And his defense was A LOT worse.

Hopefully scouts aren't stupid enough to evaluate talent on 1 snowy game.

Again I don't like playing the excuse game, because then we're discussing what could be but it didn't happen. The kid has talent but didn't deliver in a big game. So he has to perform well during Senior Bowl week to gain back momentum. Though I have to say when Geno was safetied twice he stood tall but held the ball too long in the pocket.

Yeah, he should have scored 60 against Oklahoma and threw the flag himself when the guy stuck his leg out and tripped him causing a safety.

Yeah, he should have scored 60 against Oklahoma and threw the flag himself when the guy stuck his leg out and tripped him causing a safety. Damn those excuses!!!! I like cake.

Can't wait to scratch off items #2 and 3 on my checklist.

Gonna feel so good.

he should threw the ball on a quick read or away while he was in the endzone. nice way in being obtuse BTW.

The whispers are just farts

I was just copying PGM's double-post and adding another bit about cake. I thought we were playing a game.

I lost the game.

Nobody has said the magic word yet

Darn it, I did too. I had been winning for like 5 years.

If the hire is Reid, the pick has to be Geno Smith, and there's no other even close to another reasonable alternative.

The correct choice has always been Geno. Nothing's changed in that regard. Do the odds increase of it happening? Absolutely.

It will be. I've never been more confident of anything. Geno is Reid's kind of QB.

Andy has gone black before...he can't go back.

Reid + Geno =

RENO!

THE BIGGEST LITTLE SUPER BOWL WINNING HC/QB DUO IN THE WORLD

This. Plus even if Geno isn't Reid's guy I feel a lot more confident having someone who knows qbs making that choice

Wait, Geno Smith is black?!?!?

WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY BRING THIS UP BEFORE

Chocolate.

I've made a huge tiny mistake.

He did throw the ball away. He got called for intentional grounding.

The excuse game has to be played. Every one of these kids have flaws. None of them are Manning, none of them are Luck.

To me Geno has the highest upside and the fewest flaws.

I like Tyler Wilson but he has a few more serious question marks than Geno does.

Shitty offensive line, shitty defense, shitty coaching, and shitty conditions are lame excuses.

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe
Casserly just said on NFL net that the #chiefs won't use first pick in draft on a qb

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe
Casserly just said on NFL net that the #chiefs won't use first pick in draft on a qb

Casserly knows jack shit.

Casserly is a dumbass and this thread has AIDS

No question, but lets not kid ourselves that Geno did make mistakes in that game because we all want that great QB prospect in the draft but all do have flaws. I've stated before that Wilson is an injury risk. Hey if Geno is truly the cream of the crop then he has nothing to worry about during Senior Bowl week because he'll kill it like Von Miller.

Casserly is just pissed that Clark didn't give his sorry ass the time of day back when we hired Peeeehooliiiii

I know wtf ?:#

At least now we know who Reid is hiring for GM.

Welcome to KC, Charlie Casserly!

Yep.

Do NOT even joke about that kind of shit, man :#

Sounds like the Geno stock is falling at this point. Really does not matter as long as we end up with a winner. My fear is this Vick talk will continue.

I'm glad he knows what we are doing in the draft

Reid said to that reporter in Philly that they need to find a qb and then followed up with "they have the first pick in the draft"

He probably doesn't even remember what flavor of oatmeal he ate in the morning.

Donovan Mcnabb says Fescoe and Casserly can STFU

Hail Redskins runs a mock draft summary.

Every mock updated in the last 2 weeks has Geno going #1. If anything, his stock is RISING.

Yup. So much for the bowl game tanking him. Looks like folks are finally seeing the things some of us saw months ago.

I really like the Reid hire, but if the chiefs ignore the QB position again, I will consider following whatever team drafts Geno.
It will be inexcusable to not draft wilson or Geno with the first pick. This Glennon shit has to stop.

It will. That stupid bitch MIGHT get lucky and find a great QB coach in an environment where he can sort of coast along for a few years before being handed the starting gig, but that's highly doubtful. Teams who draft QBs high generally need them to play here and there AT LEAST in the first two seasons.

Glennon is more raw than Gabbert. A team like Arizona or Jacksonville who might draft him will get nothing but a wet, smelly turd stinking up the team on Sundays

We could take Ryan Nassib in the 2nd. Reid has a history with Syracuse QBs. :evil:

That would not get me excited at all.

I've only recently started looking at Zac Dysert because Nightfyre is really high on that guy. What's the deal with Nassib? Admittedly I've only seen him play in the Pinstripe Bowl, so I don't want to poop on the guy before I even know what he's about. What are some of his good games he's had that I can take a look at?

I want to see if he'll be an adequate backup to Geno :D

Looked alright in the Mizzou game I watched.

Anyone else like Dysert or is Night going full findthetrevorlaws on us

I am now a huge fan of Dysert per Nightfyre's suggestion. I really hope we can still get him with our presumed comp pick in the 3rd round, or even the 4th.

Dysert is an excellent developmental prospect. Excellent touch, and his knack for making huge plays when stuff breaks down is very sexy. Looks a bit spindly... would be interested if he had an injury history. I haven't heard anything about one so far, so I'll assume he's pretty sturdy.

Ours isn't the only forum going through this:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...=53987&page=17

Geno Smith to Terrance Copper! Look out NFL it's coming and it's coming hard...

From the thread that htis linked ROFL

Some ****tard said Chiefs should take Jekyll and move Albert to Guard. Challenged to name 10 LT's better than Albert, he named 2 retired guys and they pwnd his true fan ass.

I will say this. Dwayne Bowe can be über-dominate in Reid's offense. I know he transitioned to smaller, faster guys later, but think back to Terrell Owens.

:drool:

Yeah, he'll own on those crossing routes and make many a DB his bitch.

That's pretty comforting actually.