I'll disagree with one statement that's been made in this thread multiple times:

"This thread sucks".

AFAIC, this is one the most entertaining threads this board has ever had. It's actually gotten better over the last 5 or 6 months. I love the banter back and forth.

Great entertainment.

Same with Mizzou. Not one person outside the state cares one iota about MU football. Not one.

Saul Good seems to care and he lives in Kansas.

That's why KU plays 9 conference games. To win the conference.

If MU would have stayed in the conference it would have been great.

Yeah but he's more of a Big 12 fan than anything. Dude was even watching TCU-Tech last night. You need to get him a life or something.

Hyperbole aside, he's not far off. Obviously College Gameday disagreed when they came to town for our victory over the Sooners, but very few games have national appeal. Look at the week three football thread. Only two games were even worthy of being bolded. With a few exceptions, college football is about local rivalries.

The SEC has done an incredible job of elevating it's teams into the national consciousness. Hopefully Mizzou can capitalize on the opportunity the SEC provides to become one of those programs. In the meantime, Mizzou fans get games against marquee opponents several times a season. Regardless of who we play out of conference, it's a fun schedule every year. Hell...Tennessee and Auburn are much cooler games than Oklahoma State and Baylor even if they are down.

Great for who? The Big 12 is crap. Moving to the SEC is ****ing great. Playing KU in the non-con would be ideal, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

How could I resist the feature game from the best football conference in the country? It was a beautiful game that will overshadow Alabama at aTm.

You do see the fallacy of your statement don't you....assuming that the only Mizzou fans in the country live in Missouri.

Extremely unlikely, Mizzou has a bad football history and their first year sucked, and their recruiting now sucks too. All signs point to more suckage which is why Pinkel is begging KU. Being in the SEC hasn't done a damn thing for half that league anyway, the punching bags who are never on TV and never competitive.


There's nothing fun about this, unless you're a masochist:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-PZkx9SVhq3I/UH...gif?imgmax=800

Well the SEC does need their Washington Generals.

Great as in the KU-MU game.

A KU-MU game without conf implications means nothing.

While the Big 12 has more than their share of them.

I find it interesting that so many MU fans find it easy to rip the Big 12 and saying how much it sucks yet at the same time the SEC itself is signing partnership deals left and right with us and the MU head coach can't stop begging to play us.

It's like Bizarro World.

The SEC needs their Washington Generals for bowl games.

Sure they are. To Tennessee and Auburn fans.

That game only generates excitement in conference.

See....you, like PB, seem to like to use hyperbole/exaggeration to try and make a point.

I still watch Big 12 games....I still pull for some of the Big 12 teams. I still think KU and MU should play but I don't lose sleep or whine that it hasn't happened. It WILL happen, and no amount of denial by anyone (KU or MU) will make that probability disappear.

You assertion that Pinkel is begging KU to play MU is just your dreamworld in your head made up to make yourself feel better. Pinkel answered a question posed to him...and made an intelligent answer, that it would be beneficial to both teams financially to play. Your attempt to paint it as begging just further solidifies your lack of reality about the situation.

There is a reason that a coach with three straight Big 10 titles left to coach the last place SEC team.

What's the reason a coach with 2 national titles left the SEC to coach a BIG school going on probation?

He didn't.

I'm sure there is.

It still doesn't make UT/AUB compelling to anybody outside the area. It's a shitty matchup between two crappy teams that 90% of America wouldn't care about.

Here are the tv ratings for all the Tennessee and Baylor games I could find from 2012:

0.8 (1.5M) Tennessee N.C. State 7:30 PM ESPNU
3.1 (5.1M) Florida Tennessee 6 PM ESPN
2.9 (4.8M) Tennessee Georgia 3:30 PM CBS
0.7 (1.1M) Tennessee Mississippi St. 9 PM ESPN2
2.5 (4.2M) Alabama Tennessee 7 PM ESPN
2.6 (3.9M) Tennessee South Carolina 12 PM ESPN
0.7 (1.1M) Tennessee Vanderbilt 7 PM ESPN2

1.5 (2.2M) Baylor UL-Monroe 8 PM ESPN
3.1 (4.8M) Baylor Texas 3 PM ABC
2.1 (3.3M) Kansas State Baylor 8 PM ESPN
1.0 (1.6M) Baylor Texas Tech 2:30 PM FOX

Looks pretty comparable to me.

The only network they both played on was ESPN. The lowest rated ESPN game for Tennessee drew 3.9 million viewers. The highest rated game for Baylor on ESPN drew 3.3 million viewers. (Never mind the fact that Tennessee got twice as many games on these networks as Baylor.)

The site didn't list FSN and FX ratings which is what were all the other Baylor games were on. I look for those too. What interest me more is that the lowest rated Baylor game still got a better number than 3 Tennessee games.

The only thing that chart told me was that Tenn and Baylor both got their highest rating was when they played a big name, traditional power. And didn't draw squat when they didn't. This is exactly why MU won't get any more "exposure" playing in the SEC than they would've gotten playing the OU-Tex types in the Big 12.


And the only basketball game they got to play on CBS every year? We know who that was. And why that was. They'll have to rely on Kentucky now for that.

It tells me that although the SEC may have some great fun teams to watch they also have God awful programs like Miss St, Vandy, etc that are simply unwatchable. Even in the deep South.

Are you suggesting tv won't be picking up Mizzou @ Kentucky this fall?

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Shakeup happening at Texas.

This blog over at ESPN seems to think that MU-KU is a good idea:

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...ed-love-to-see

But PB and Hypocritson say the game has no value...go figure.

Obviously ESPN has not talked to them. If they did, they would totally change their minds.

Just guessing but I think ESPN probably wants the content for their network more than they actually care about the rivalry.

According to PB and Wickedson, the game has no value. If that is the case, why would ESPN want the content?

ESPN is a business, of course, and they want content that is profitable for them.

I never said that, in fact I said the exact opposite. Do you know how to read?

They both value different things. ESPN values the game in dollars, KU fans value the game in wins vs losses.

Dodds is leaving Texas. What a shit show...

Take a number and get in line.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...ce-schedules-2

Well Bambi, I'm sure ESPN doesn't really care about Crapsville State we play first couple weeks, and our fans don't either. Everyone would rather see Mizzou. Too bad for the KC area they left, but I can't blame them for making their own decision.

Damnit. Our double agent is retiring. This is disappointing news.

The old big 12 is getting clowned by ESPN analysts this week as being weak. Interesting.

Don't they know? Strongest conference from top to bottom?

The Dallas Cowboys play by play guy was on Petro's show yesterday. He's a Mizzou grad. Said MU's decision to leave the conference was the absolute wrong move and said that all the administrative people making the move won't have to live with the decision 40 years from now...but he and fans like him will.

I felt bad for him.

All true, but like a drug addict, at some point you can't help them any longer.

That's what i thought...no clue.

Thanks for playing.....NEXT!

I'm glad Mizzou went to the SEC instead of Kansas... Holy Shit! Can you imagine how the beakers would be a squawkin' if they jumped ship to a power house conference.

It would be overbearing. Thank God they are playing the role of the stubborn we won't play you any more instead of look at us now haha!

Mizzou like it or not is in the most stable conference in college athletics regardless of how they end up every year.

Nah man, they are content being Bevo's minion.

Is that the new tee shirt on sale at the Faurot rack?

I think I understand your sentiment here but I think this is a very strange way to view sports.

Call Sagarin. I need to know if the Big 12 is still the best conference.

LMAO

I don't get it. It's a new year. Like Kentucky winning the title then going to the nit the next year.

Basketball talk? Weird

The annual loss to Rice has started the season up a bit early

That thread was bumped at the begining of football season. Hilarious.

You know it's football season when we hear "most stable conference" smack.

You also know it's football season when Kansas loses to Rice and their fans start talking about basketball.

Not any more so when its basketball season and every team outside of Kentucky in the SEC is talking Spring Football.

It's never too early to laugh at Kentuckys NIT flop

There was no smack there. It was a simple statement of fact. Enjoy the rest of your season. Looks like another long one.

Could be, it will all depend on the QB and WR development, if any. I'm actually quite pleased with the defense, you can see Campo's influence on the secondary.

If we can just get Heaps to feel comfortable back there this year, I think we could have a really good season next year. I think there's just too much "newness" with the JUCOs and rebuilt OL to make a reasonable attempt in the B12 this year, despite the conference being down.

I don't know why its such a surprise for a basketball school with one of its most exciting recruiting classes to be talking about basketball. Unlike the majority of "football" schools, we actually have a legit shot at a NC there. When the academic year is done, what is Mizzou or KSU going to have their legit shot at?

That's right, nothing.

Sagarin has now split out the divisions in college football to provide a greater level of detail to his rankings:



COLLEGE FOOTBALL 2013 through results of SEPTEMBER 14 SATURDAY
CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS WIN50%
1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.53 83.18 ( 1) 7 82.79 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 79.86 80.28 ( 2) 6 79.81 ( 3)
3 SEC-EAST (A) = 79.81 79.62 ( 3) 7 79.90 ( 2)
4 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 78.87 78.12 ( 5) 6 78.45 ( 5)
5 BIG 12 (A) = 78.81 78.52 ( 4) 10 78.67 ( 4)
6 BIG TEN-LEADERS (A) = 76.14 75.91 ( 6) 6 76.01 ( 6)
7 BIG TEN-LEGENDS (A) = 75.58 75.32 ( 8) 6 75.34 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 75.15 75.32 ( 7) 7 75.30 ( 8)
9 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 73.29 73.94 ( 9) 7 73.57 ( 9)
10 AMERICAN ATHLETIC (A) = 68.93 69.09 ( 10) 10 69.05 ( 10)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf...13/conference/

Ouch


http://m.si.com/3390459/state-of-the-horns/

Going after Saban soon.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ent-in-january

Can't leave a place where you have a statue Bambi

Why not?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...16_634x396.jpg

i think we all knew that. Is anyone actually arguing that the big 12 doesn't stink?

Interesting read here...especially on Ohio State's schedule and whether or not they should get into the NCG if they run the table.

http://outkickthecoverage.com/starti...su-edition.php

College Football 2013 through games of September 21 Saturday
CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS WIN50%

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 82.42 83.00 ( 1) 7 82.72 ( 1)
2 SEC-EAST (A) = 80.10 79.54 ( 3) 7 79.89 ( 3)
3 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 80.05 80.48 ( 2) 6 80.13 ( 2)
4 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 79.14 78.41 ( 4) 6 78.77 ( 4)
5 BIG 12 (A) = 78.23 77.94 ( 5) 10 78.13 ( 5)
6 BIG TEN-LEADERS (A) = 75.92 75.58 ( 7) 6 75.78 ( 6)
7 BIG TEN-LEGENDS (A) = 75.84 75.71 ( 6) 6 75.72 ( 7)
8 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 75.27 75.29 ( 8) 7 75.29 ( 8)
9 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.43 75.16 ( 9) 7 74.76 ( 9)

Sagarin is terrible. According to him, Mizzou is basically a toss-up against Florida, aTm, and South Carolina.

Well, he kind of left permanently.

Winners and Losers: College football’s worst weekend lives up to its billing.
Graham Watson September 22, 2013 2:22 AM Dr. Saturday

Kansas: It's been more than two years since Kansas could brag about a win over an FBS team ? until Saturday. Matt Wyman's 52-yard field goal as time expired gave the Jayhawks a 13-10 win over Louisiana Tech
and snapped a 22-game losing streak to teams from the FBS. On the
flipside, however, Kansas fans belong in our "Losers" section for
rushing the field for a win against a 1-3 Louisiana Tech team. Hey,
remember when Kansas was in the Orange Bowl in 2008?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...13--ncaaf.html



Only problem for this blogger (I won't tell you where he/she went to college at): it never happened.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/footb...re-not-kansas/

They rushed for LA Tech ROFL Why would they make it up?

Nice to see ku's celebration practice finally pay off.

I thought they were going to tear down the goalposts, but they just cut down the net behind it instead.

Jesus.

That's pretty good. LMAO

Why whould he/she make it up? I alluded to the likely reason why he/she would do so. (I honsetly cann't tell from the name or the photo what gender the writer is)


The TV coverage as well as the video embedded shows what happened. The TV coverage showed the team and the coach leaving the field and no students were on the field. I suppose the blogger was simply confusing the team's celebration with students.

I was driving so I have no idea. I would hope they didn't.

They did rush the field. Afterwards, they gave Kentucky a standing ovation for winning the national championship in basketball two years ago. It was an odd scene.